A few quotes from JonnyGuru on Overclocking the 8800GT ...

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
Where were you when I needed you?

Based on the time of your original post . . . asleep.

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Great post and something I definately agree with.

Glad to be of service. The 8800GT is a popular card so if there is anything potentially sketchy about the memory interface, we should keep an open mind about it. Heck I'd like to see Anandtech do some kind of memory interface stress test in simulated end-user environments so we can settle the matter of whether or not this is a serious issue.

I'd say 5-10 test machines each with an 8800GT running a fairly standard overclock on the core, shader clock and memory over ~1000 hours looping 3dMark2006 would give us a decent picture of card durability. Of course, if Nvidia and/or their partners have already done similar testing in-house on production-quality cards, it might be more prudent for Anandtech to do some digging and reporting rather than testing.

Alternatively, if any of the OC cards are being sold with warranties that will cover memory overclocks at or above 2000mhz, we could possibly get some willing guinea pigs to do 3dMark06 stress-testing and have the matter resolved in fairly short order. Granted that's like 41 days of looping 3dMark06 but still . . .

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
Where were you when I needed you?

Based on the time of your original post . . . asleep.

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Great post and something I definately agree with.

Glad to be of service. The 8800GT is a popular card so if there is anything potentially sketchy about the memory interface, we should keep an open mind about it. Heck I'd like to see Anandtech do some kind of memory interface stress test in simulated end-user environments so we can settle the matter of whether or not this is a serious issue.

I'd say 5-10 test machines each with an 8800GT running a fairly standard overclock on the core, shader clock and memory over ~1000 hours looping 3dMark2006 would give us a decent picture of card durability. Of course, if Nvidia and/or their partners have already done similar testing in-house on production-quality cards, it might be more prudent for Anandtech to do some digging and reporting rather than testing.

Glad you woke up when you did. and a nice follow-up to the last post.

 

[spittledip]

Good heads up post OP. Nothing wrong with being cautious. I am curious to see what will happen with these overclocks in the semi-near future, if anything.

 

[CrystalBay]

Good suggestions Here is a real FUD post concerning the core

 

[postmortemIA]

So.. I don't overclock at all and my 9700 pro died because memory on stock clock speed gone FUBAR.

No modern card is built to last forever. "My xxxx just died" is often post on this board.

 

[CrystalBay]

My 9700P did the same thing on D3, Crysis is going to be a card killer, IMO....

 

[SniperDaws]

isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2114281&enterthread=y

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.

If you do a little research,, you'll find that people that have had problems with the 8800GT is due to the fan not running high enough to reduce the heat. Once folks run their fans at 50-60%, they are not having problems anymore.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.

If you do a little research,, you'll find that people that have had problems with the 8800GT is due to the fan not running high enough to reduce the heat. Once folks run their fans at 50-60%, they are not having problems anymore.

Click the link and have a read in my post above yours

Edited cos i sounded like a tit.

 

[SickBeast]

I know the Gainward ExperTool (overclocking software) won't even let you select speeds above 1900mhz for the memory, so there must be some ring of truth to this.

My card doesn't like 2000mhz on the memory either.

I've heard alot of stories about overclocking killing graphics cards so be careful.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.

Why not? The factory OC ones have the same lifetime warranties as the reference.

It's home OCing that you'd worry about.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.

If you do a little research,, you'll find that people that have had problems with the 8800GT is due to the fan not running high enough to reduce the heat. Once folks run their fans at 50-60%, they are not having problems anymore.

Indeed, that's about the only flaw that I can find with the 8800GT but at least it's easily fixed using the latest version of Rivatuner 2.06. I'm currently running mine at 700 Core / 1900 memory effective. Initally I set the fan at 60% then I bumped it up to 70% to see what the noise levels were like an then left it there. Average temperature now is 48-52c on idle and 63-70c under load depending on the enviornment. Before adjusting the fan speed I was sitting at 60c idle and upper 80's- 90c under load. It really is a tremendous card, The only game I've had issues with is my son's Star Wars Battlefront II game which would crash forcing a reboot but after doing some research I've chalked it up to the game being buggy and got it working by turning off the "bloom effects" and bumping "shadows" a notch. Everything else plays great from Bioshock to Quake Wars to the Crysis Demo.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: s44

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.

Why not? The factory OC ones have the same lifetime warranties as the reference.

It's home OCing that you'd worry about.

Because the OC'ed ones cost more so basically if i buy one thats got the mem clocked at 2000 then id expect it to run at that 24/7 and not have to be bothered RMA'ing the card or dropping the memory clocks to cure this problem that is just coming to light.

Just give it a couple a weeks and itll be all the rage, there will be 20 threads like "help! my 8800GT is dead", "or Crysis causing Artifacts since upgrading to 8800GT".

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName


Yeah, I never gave his post a complete read because he ticked me off when he came after me for quoting a verified/linked to post by someone who's intelligent and generally knows what he's talking about. That does not fit the definition of FUD in my book...

Can you please explain how I 'came after you'? I didn't know asking a question as to why you didn't research something was considered an attack.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2114281&enterthread=y

Thanks very much for the support SniperD, I really appreciate it, but don't let anything here scare you off from choosing an overclocked card other than the money of course. Personally, I think the EVGA SC is one of the better choices as far as OC cards go, see my other post three up from this one for my experience with the card. It comes with a very "reasonable" default overclock which is 650 Core / 1625 Shader / 1900 mhz memory - effective. As per my other post, I'm running with a 700 Core. Didn't push it any farther as I'm satisfied with it's current performance.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2114281&enterthread=y

Thanks very much for the support SniperD, I really appreciate it, but don't let anything here scare you off from choosing an overclocked card other than the money of course. Personally, I think the EVGA SC is one of the better choices as far as OC cards go, see my other post at the end of this thread for my experience with the card. It comes with a very reasonable default overclock which is 650 Core / 1625 Shader / 1900 mhz memory - effective. As per my other post, I'm running with a 700 Core. Didn't push it any farther as I'm satisfied with it's current performance.

Ill just overclock it myself and save myself all the hassle.

 

[walk2k]

According to RivaTuner my EVGA "SC" is running the RAM at 950Mhz.

Is that doubled for DDR? (so 1900Mhz) If not.. uh 2000 would be QUITE the overclock..

 

[SniperDaws]

Yes Walk your Ram's effective rate is 950x2 which is 1900.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know the Gainward ExperTool (overclocking software) won't even let you select speeds above 1900mhz for the memory, so there must be some ring of truth to this.

My card doesn't like 2000mhz on the memory either.

I've heard alot of stories about overclocking killing graphics cards so be careful.

Weird, I didn't have that issue with ExperTool. It would let me clock the RAM to 2000MHz and beyond, but the card didn't like it.

Jonny's blog post about going to BFGTech for those of you that had not heard about that, btw... http://jonnyguru.com/news_details.php?id=350

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know the Gainward ExperTool (overclocking software) won't even let you select speeds above 1900mhz for the memory, so there must be some ring of truth to this.

My card doesn't like 2000mhz on the memory either.

I've heard alot of stories about overclocking killing graphics cards so be careful.

Weird, I didn't have that issue with ExperTool. It would let me clock the RAM to 2000MHz and beyond, but the card didn't like it.

Jonny's blog post about going to BFGTech for those of you that had not heard about that, btw... http://jonnyguru.com/news_details.php?id=350

They just released a new version (5.6). It lets you OC the shaders independantly. I'm on Vista64 if that makes any difference...

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
Where were you when I needed you?

Based on the time of your original post . . . asleep.

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Great post and something I definately agree with.

Glad to be of service. The 8800GT is a popular card so if there is anything potentially sketchy about the memory interface, we should keep an open mind about it. Heck I'd like to see Anandtech do some kind of memory interface stress test in simulated end-user environments so we can settle the matter of whether or not this is a serious issue.

I'd say 5-10 test machines each with an 8800GT running a fairly standard overclock on the core, shader clock and memory over ~1000 hours looping 3dMark2006 would give us a decent picture of card durability. Of course, if Nvidia and/or their partners have already done similar testing in-house on production-quality cards, it might be more prudent for Anandtech to do some digging and reporting rather than testing.

Alternatively, if any of the OC cards are being sold with warranties that will cover memory overclocks at or above 2000mhz, we could possibly get some willing guinea pigs to do 3dMark06 stress-testing and have the matter resolved in fairly short order. Granted that's like 41 days of looping 3dMark06 but still . . .

I nominate jpb to do a test...um, I would but, uh, I, um, don't have one yet...

 

[GeneralOreo]

So EVGA decided they'd take the risk and sell their SSC cards anyway? Or they know more about this stuff than johnny? I'm thinking the latter.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
isnt there already a couple of threads posted with people having problems with the 8800GT?

i think mwnn should be thanked for pointing this out not fucking flogged, but as ive come to notice half of you idiots just sit there waiting to tear strips off people to make yourselves look like you know your stuff, after you have finished pointing out peoples grammer and typos and what ever else you can throw, have a read about the 8800GT Blue screening and artifacting ( is that even a word?) while running games such as crysis, CoH OF, World in Conflict.


Thankyou Mwnn for pointing this out and helping make my decision to buy a standard 8800GT and not a factory OC'ed board.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2114281&enterthread=y

Thanks very much for the support SniperD, I really appreciate it, but don't let anything here scare you off from choosing an overclocked card other than the money of course. Personally, I think the EVGA SC is one of the better choices as far as OC cards go, see my other post at the end of this thread for my experience with the card. It comes with a very reasonable default overclock which is 650 Core / 1625 Shader / 1900 mhz memory - effective. As per my other post, I'm running with a 700 Core. Didn't push it any farther as I'm satisfied with it's current performance.

Ill just overclock it myself and save myself all the hassle.

Sounds like a plan. The cheapest ones I've seen are the standard clocked EVGA and PNY cards, with EVGA offering the best warranty of course. Hopefully all the e-tailers wil get restocked this week, although the prices will probably still be up there. The best part is even your card doesn't overclock well, it still an incredible performer at stock. Much luck.

Edit:

For the helluvit I just took a look around and found a few 8800GTs in stock, but the prices are still up there. This is one of the cheapest ones I've found at $266 USD. It's made by Palit and it looks like they're one of the few who tossed the stock cooler for their own cooling design.....

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PLT-8800GT#

http://www.ewiz.com/photogalla...GT%2FPLT-8800GT_LG.GIF

 

[1ManArmY]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt over a video card?

Ooh-rah, not here sir .....

The only fear I have is that I won't be able to kick my kid off the computer later so I can get some time with the 8800GT and Bioshock. (Yes, we already had some quality time together eariler today)

The only doubt I have is whether or not I'll "Step-up" once the new EVGA GTS or better comes out.

The only uncertainty I have is whether should I go for a second party cooling solution or keep with the stock cooling and the fan cranked to 70%

great card but I'm waiting on the new GTS (G92) to see if it's worth the difference in price and hopefully when ATI/AMD 3850/3870 comes out they will drive the price of 8800 GT where it should be.:beer:

 

[CrystalBay]

It is a weak Bus not the memory....Thats the problemem