A few quotes from JonnyGuru on Overclocking the 8800GT ...

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
I've said this at least twice in this thread ....

You can say it all you want, but by quoting his claim to authorty which he later retracted you are effectively still helping a BFG employ spread FUD about EVGA's, swaying people to consider other products when they might have otherwised purchased the SSC.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I know the Gainward ExperTool (overclocking software) won't even let you select speeds above 1900mhz for the memory, so there must be some ring of truth to this.

My card doesn't like 2000mhz on the memory either.

I've heard alot of stories about overclocking killing graphics cards so be careful.

Weird, I didn't have that issue with ExperTool. It would let me clock the RAM to 2000MHz and beyond, but the card didn't like it.

Jonny's blog post about going to BFGTech for those of you that had not heard about that, btw... http://jonnyguru.com/news_details.php?id=350

They just released a new version (5.6). It lets you OC the shaders independantly. I'm on Vista64 if that makes any difference...

That must be it. I have ExperTool 5.6 as well. and I can go past 2000MHz on the RAM is I want to.

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: GeneralOreo
So EVGA decided they'd take the risk and sell their SSC cards anyway? Or they know more about this stuff than johnny? I'm thinking the latter.

Given EVGA's track record with Overclocked models failing prematurely I'd say it's a toss up.

 

[MarcVenice]

Who says he is trying to discredit EVGA. If you buy a ssc, and it breaks down, you just RMA it, and if enough cards get RMA-ed, then I guess EVGA will do something about it. He's only trying to help as far as I know. He's quite knowledgeable too, works for BFGtech, so he most definately knows what he is talking about, and if you don't like it, just frigging ignore it, overclock your RAM to 2000mhz, and if it breaks down on you, we can all say told you so. If it doesn't, then just be happy because you've got a killer videocard running at insane speeds. I've never really liked the idea of overclocking videocards, it costs 3 times as much as my CPU, but if I would be overclocking, I'd rather back of that 50-100mhz on the ram, just to make sure I'm not pushing it beyond it's limits.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
I've said this at least twice in this thread ....

You can say it all you want, but by quoting his claim to authorty which he later retracted you are effectively still helping a BFG employ spread FUD about EVGA's, swaying people to consider other products when they might have otherwised purchased the SSC.

He never singled out any manufacturer. He only said something about eVGA when someone else mentioned their card with 2000MHz memory.

He singled out ALL 8800GTs.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
I've said this at least twice in this thread ....

You can say it all you want, but by quoting his claim to authorty which he later retracted you are effectively still helping a BFG employ spread FUD about EVGA's, swaying people to consider other products when they might have otherwised purchased the SSC.

I really think you should step back and chill-out Snowman, this is the only board where someone is talking about BFG Employee conspiracy theories courtesy of you. I believe that would be classified as spreading FUD wouldn't it? If you'll re-read the first post of this thread all 3 of his quotes are their including his retraction and it's been there since yesterday when ArchAngel mentioned it. If anything, this takes a way from Jonny's credibility and so does being an employee of BFG which wasn't verified until halfway through this thread. Personally, I think he just down played what he said because he wants to be left the hell alone, and I am begining to see why.

Also if you have a problem with me posting JonnyG's comments or what he said, take it up with the man himself in this thread which I just came across.......

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...erthread=y&STARTPAGE=5

And for those who missed what I said at least twice since you didn't include the whole quote:

I've said this at least twice in this thread ....

"As I said before, I posted it here for the "intelligent" posters at Anand to make up their own minds and for some strange reason which I don't understand this offends you. I never said JonnyGuru was a God, I never said don't buy an overclocked EVGA card and I infact own one. I never said don't overclock the memory or your card or it will explode."

 

[JAG87]

Boys boys, there are 2 oem makers for the 8800 GT. And unfortunately neither one of them is Asus

One is Foxconn, and the other is Flextronics. All the evga SCC cards are most likely Flextronics boards, because they use slightly better components and are more overclock friendly than the Foxconn boards. Flextronics couldn't deliver the boards on launch day and that is why the only cards available at launch were the stock and the superclocked 650mhz card which are both Foxconn cards.

So yea, they are not all the same. Lets do some homework before we shout, shall we.

 

[lil buttercup]

Originally posted by: JAG87
Boys boys, there are 2 oem makers for the 8800 GT. And unfortunately neither one of them is Asus

One is Foxconn, and the other is Flextronics. All the evga SCC cards are most likely Flextronics boards, because they use slightly better components and are more overclock friendly than the Foxconn boards. Flextronics couldn't deliver the boards on launch day and that is why the only cards available at launch were the stock and the superclocked 650mhz card which are both Foxconn cards.

So yea, they are not all the same. Lets do some homework before we shout, shall we.

SSC was available at launch

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: JAG87
Boys boys, there are 2 oem makers for the 8800 GT. And unfortunately neither one of them is Asus

One is Foxconn, and the other is Flextronics. All the evga SCC cards are most likely Flextronics boards, because they use slightly better components and are more overclock friendly than the Foxconn boards. Flextronics couldn't deliver the boards on launch day and that is why the only cards available at launch were the stock and the superclocked 650mhz card which are both Foxconn cards.

So yea, they are not all the same. Lets do some homework before we shout, shall we.

SSC was available at launch

o rly they had stock? did you buy one? can you show me the receipt?

 

[lil buttercup]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: JAG87
Boys boys, there are 2 oem makers for the 8800 GT. And unfortunately neither one of them is Asus

One is Foxconn, and the other is Flextronics. All the evga SCC cards are most likely Flextronics boards, because they use slightly better components and are more overclock friendly than the Foxconn boards. Flextronics couldn't deliver the boards on launch day and that is why the only cards available at launch were the stock and the superclocked 650mhz card which are both Foxconn cards.

So yea, they are not all the same. Lets do some homework before we shout, shall we.

SSC was available at launch

o rly they had stock? did you buy one? can you show me the receipt?

Through eVGA website, keep up, man! lol

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: JAG87
Boys boys, there are 2 oem makers for the 8800 GT. And unfortunately neither one of them is Asus

One is Foxconn, and the other is Flextronics. All the evga SCC cards are most likely Flextronics boards, because they use slightly better components and are more overclock friendly than the Foxconn boards. Flextronics couldn't deliver the boards on launch day and that is why the only cards available at launch were the stock and the superclocked 650mhz card which are both Foxconn cards.

So yea, they are not all the same. Lets do some homework before we shout, shall we.

SSC was available at launch

o rly they had stock? did you buy one? can you show me the receipt?

Through eVGA website, keep up, man! lol

There were no SCC cards shipped from evga on launch day. In fact, they only came in stock over the weekend and none of them were shipped out yet. You keep up! lol

 

[thejez]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: lil buttercup

Originally posted by: JAG87
Boys boys, there are 2 oem makers for the 8800 GT. And unfortunately neither one of them is Asus

One is Foxconn, and the other is Flextronics. All the evga SCC cards are most likely Flextronics boards, because they use slightly better components and are more overclock friendly than the Foxconn boards. Flextronics couldn't deliver the boards on launch day and that is why the only cards available at launch were the stock and the superclocked 650mhz card which are both Foxconn cards.

So yea, they are not all the same. Lets do some homework before we shout, shall we.

SSC was available at launch

o rly they had stock? did you buy one? can you show me the receipt?

Through eVGA website, keep up, man! lol

There were no SCC cards shipped from evga on launch day. In fact, they only came in stock over the weekend and none of them were shipped out yet. You keep up! lol

My SSC was ordered on launch day and shipped on 10/31. If you really want proof i can give it to you.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
I've said this at least twice in this thread ....

You can say it all you want, but by quoting his claim to authorty which he later retracted you are effectively still helping a BFG employ spread FUD about EVGA's, swaying people to consider other products when they might have otherwised purchased the SSC.

He never singled out any manufacturer. He only said something about eVGA when someone else mentioned their card with 2000MHz memory.

He singled out ALL 8800GTs.

Is anyone else selling 8800gt cards with the memory set to 2000MHz? If not, then he did effectively single out EVGA's SSC.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
If you'll re-read the first post of this thread all 3 of his quotes are their including his retraction and it's been there since yesterday [/b]when ArchAngel mentioned it.

Sure, but people who have trouble puting 2 and 2 together will still be misslead by the FUD his first comment, as a couple of posters here have already shown. So you aren't really presenting anything anything for intelegent posters to consern themselves with, but others will still be swayed.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
If you'll re-read the first post of this thread all 3 of his quotes are their including his retraction and it's been there since yesterday [/b]when ArchAngel mentioned it.

Sure, but people who have trouble puting 2 and 2 together will still be misslead by the FUD his first comment, as a couple of posters here have already shown. So you aren't really presenting anything anything for intelegent posters to consern themselves with, but others will still be swayed.

Great, so it's nothing new. Then get off it. I also think you're underestimating the intelligence level of your fellow forum members and don't give them enough credit.

As I said in the previous post, you gotta problem with me posting his quotes, take it up with JonnyG himself who incidenatally posted his comments before I did apparently right here at Annand on Nov. 2nd in the thread below. So why aren't you on his ass instead of mine? See you in the Spring and hopefully you're attitude has thawed out a bit by then like the rest of the Snowmen. Cheers.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...erthread=y&STARTPAGE=5

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Is anyone else selling 8800gt cards with the memory set to 2000MHz? If not, then he did effectively single out EVGA's SSC.

No he didn't...he singled out ALL GTs because they were talking about overclocking ANY GT, not just the eVGA ones. He said because eVGA were selling a 2000MHz version they could possibly have more RMAs, but he never said only the eVGA ones were at risk, and again this was AFTER someone else mentioned the eVGA card.

You can read it how you want to but I definitely didn't see it that way. I don't think he's the type of person who would risk his reputation (as you can tell from many forum goers he has a fairly good reputation) so I don't really see him trying to spread FUD just to decrease sales for another company. IMO he just simply stated something he had run across.

If he's completely wrong then I hope the truth comes out as soon as possible.

 

[thejez]

does overclocking your memory to 2Ghz void your warranty?

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: thejez
does overclocking your memory to 2Ghz void your warranty?

Apparently not for eVGA cards...lol, how ironic if it does die because of that.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
I also think you're underestimating the intelligence level of your fellow forum members and don't give them enough credit.

Having been taken in by the FUD yourself enough to create this thread, you obviously aren't in any postion to judge that.

Originally posted by: thilan29
He said because eVGA were selling a 2000MHz version they could possibly have more RMAs...

The was no "could possibly" or anything of the sort in his orignal claim. Rather, he claimed that the g92 is inhernetly unsuited for running the memory bus at 2000MHz and will fail. If that was actually proven by Nvidia and their partners testing then it would be valuble info, but since he later retracted that claim to authorty, his claim is left without anything to substantate it.

 

[ArchAngel777]

So far the only two people who have been hostile in this thread are the OP, and that other guy who called 1/2 of these people 'f**king idiots" or sometihng like that... Moderation please?

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
So far the only two people who have been hostile in this thread are the OP, and that other guy who called 1/2 of these people 'f**king idiots" or sometihng like that... Moderation please?

Yes Moderators please read through this thread from the beginning and you'll see exactly who the hostile one's are......

I'd also like to respectfully request that you close this thread as a similar discussion is going on in another thread regarding this same issue/non-issue without the open hostility displayed by some here . JonnyGuru himself has even participated in the discussion.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...erthread=y&STARTPAGE=5

 

[thejez]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: thejez
does overclocking your memory to 2Ghz void your warranty?

Apparently not for eVGA cards...lol, how ironic if it does die because of that.

why would that be ironic?

Only one eVGA card comes clocked @ 2Ghz and I am not talking about that one... of course I may have been too vague in my question... I meant to only ask about non-factory 2Ghz overclocks...

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: thejez
Only one eVGA card comes clocked @ 2Ghz and I am not talking about that one... of course I may have been too vague in my question... I meant to only ask about non-factory 2Ghz overclocks...

Yes, non-factory overclocked cards from eVGA are covered for software overclocking under warranty.

 

[thejez]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: thejez
Only one eVGA card comes clocked @ 2Ghz and I am not talking about that one... of course I may have been too vague in my question... I meant to only ask about non-factory 2Ghz overclocks...

Yes, non-factory overclocked cards from eVGA are covered for software overclocking under warranty.

ahhh ok cool! So i am confused over why this thread even matters... if the card is covered by warranty who really cares?? Yeah its a small pain to RMA... but you only have to do that *if* it dies...

 

[tno]

I think there's something to be said for cautious optimism on all things launch. If JohnnyG is right then in a few months we'll here all about it. Till then it's a waste of cycles to post on about whether someone is being taken in by FUD and whether the other is being hotile. Mods kill the thread till the first story about busted 8800GT's.

tno