A conservative columnist reviews "Going Rogue"

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This was broadcast on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday. The review was by Rod Dreher, a conservative columnist for the Dallas Morning News. If -after reading this review - you doubt that characterization, then perhaps wikipedia will convince you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Dreher

And here's the NPR link: http://ww.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=120508053

Sarah Palin is back to tell us that she loves Alaska and America and Todd, the first dude. She loves God, Ronald Reagan, cutting taxes and serving those she calls ordinary, hardworking people. Who's on Sarah's enemies list? The media, good ol' boys who condescend to her, elites like the Alaskan gadfly she describes as a Birkenstock-and-granola Berkeley grad. Oh, and she really hates cynical McCain campaign staffers who, in her view, sabotaged her vice presidential campaign. That's pretty much everything you need to know about "Going Rogue," the former Alaska governor's breezy new memoir.

There's more about the intricacies of Alaskan politics than most readers could possibly care about. There are also familiar stories of life on the campaign trail, including plenty of petty score-settling. But "Going Rogue" is a book designed to reintroduce Palin as a national political force, and though she's coy about this to lay the groundwork for a 2012 presidential run.

The rap on Palin is that she's too shallow and inexperienced for the presidency, a conclusion that early Palin supporters like me came to during the 2008 campaign. There's nothing in "Going Rogue" to challenge that conclusion. It's like this: Palin spends seven pages dishing about her appearance on "Saturday Night Live," but just over one page discussing her national security views.

Palin positions herself as a populist, but her populism is entirely cultural. She fires the governor's mansion chef, who is bored because her kids won't eat his fancy-pants food. She swoons over a meal of homemade blueberry pie from hardworking, unpretentious, patriotic Alaskans unlike, one presumes, those uppity Berkeley snobs who prefer tarte tatin at Chez Panisse. A little of that goes a long way, and I wouldn't begrudge Palin a bit of it if her populism had any economic substance.

Early in "Going Rogue," she talks in detail about how Exxon exploited the people of Alaska in the Exxon Valdez disaster, and her experience tangling with oil companies taught Palin about how big business colludes with government to create a crony capitalism that harms the common good. And yet, she's incapable of understanding how the uncritically pro-business economic agenda she touts makes all this possible.

In national politics, some feel that big business is always opposed to the little guy, she writes. Some people seem to think a profit motive is inherently greedy and evil and that what's good for business is bad for people. That's what Karl Marx thought, too.

Karl Marx? Well, say no more. Along these lines, Palin's economic program amounts to nothing more than tax cutting, deregulating and the endless repetition of shopworn GOP talking points. This is the Republican Party's great populist hope?

She quotes her father's line upon her resignation this summer as Alaska's governor: Sarah's not retreating, she's reloading. On evidence of this book, Sarah Palin is charging toward 2012 shooting blanks.
All I can say is: "Wow." THIS is American conservatism's great hope?
 

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This was broadcast on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday. The review was by Rod Dreher, a conservative columnist for the Dallas Morning News. If -after reading this review - you doubt that characterization, then perhaps wikipedia will convince you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Dreher

And here's the NPR link: http://ww.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=120508053

All I can say is: "Wow." THIS is American conservatism's great hope?

It isnt no matter how hard Lefties and Rush Limbaugh try to make it. I highly doubt she will be much of a factor in 2012. If she even bothers to run. Right now she is cashing in on everybodies curiosity.
 

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Palin spends seven pages dishing about her appearance on "Saturday Night Live," but just over one page discussing her national security views.

Hah. That pretty much figures.

It's not that she's unintelligent - she's not. The problem is she glorifies and revels in ignorance.
 

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It isnt no matter how hard Lefties and Rush Limbaugh try to make it. I highly doubt she will be much of a factor in 2012. If she even bothers to run. Right now she is cashing in on everybodies curiosity.

Which is why I don't personally know a single Republican, myself included, who would ever want her to be President. A piece of ass to take home after a few drinks? Sure, but President? No fucking way.
 

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Hah. That pretty much figures.

It's not that she's unintelligent - she's not. The problem is she glorifies and revels in ignorance.
Sadly, there are those who think she's brilliant. On the other hand, it's those people who make the 99th percentile (and the 90th, and even the 10th) possible for the rest of us.
 

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Palin spends seven pages dishing about her appearance on "Saturday Night Live," but just over one page discussing her national security views.

Hah. That pretty much figures.

It's not that she's unintelligent - she's not. The problem is she glorifies and revels in ignorance.

The amusing part? Her entire recollection regarding her SNL appearance as relayed in her book is flat out lies refuted by contemporaneous emails produced by McCain staffers. She claims in the book that she was enthusiastic and wanted to be on SNL to show people she had a funny side and could take a joke, etc. The emails produced however stated that she thought SNL wasn't funny and that some of the things they talked about disgusted her and how she was reluctant to go on.

It's a strange habit of hers, telling lies easily refutable by incontrovertable evidence.
 

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Which is why I don't personally know a single Republican, myself included, who would ever want her to be President. A piece of ass to take home after a few drinks? Sure, but President? No fucking way.
Funny how no conservative ever admits to personally knowing any Tea Partyers. But you guys sure plaster videos of those TP rallies over all creation, and try to convince us that their outrage means something.
 

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The amusing part? Her entire recollection regarding her SNL appearance as relayed in her book is flat out lies refuted by contemporaneous emails produced by McCain staffers. She claims in the book that she was enthusiastic and wanted to be on SNL to show people she had a funny side and could take a joke, etc. The emails produced however stated that she thought SNL wasn't funny and that some of the things they talked about disgusted her and how she was reluctant to go on.

It's a strange habit of hers, telling lies easily refutable by incontrovertable evidence.

Can't argue with her on that.....
 

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Which is why I don't personally know a single Republican, myself included, who would ever want her to be President. A piece of ass to take home after a few drinks? Sure, but President? No fucking way.

Ok since you brooched the subject, let's say you were really drunk at an Airport Bar and both Palin and Ann Coulter where hitting on you, would you try to bag them both at the same time (a little MMF action) or choose Palin over Coulter or Coulter over Palin?
 

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Just a thought: What sort of review do you think Fox News will broadcast?
 

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Originally Posted by jonks
The amusing part? Her entire recollection regarding her SNL appearance as relayed in her book is flat out lies refuted by contemporaneous emails produced by McCain staffers. She claims in the book that she was enthusiastic and wanted to be on SNL to show people she had a funny side and could take a joke, etc. The emails produced however stated that she thought SNL wasn't funny and that some of the things they talked about disgusted her and how she was reluctant to go on.

It's a strange habit of hers, telling lies easily refutable by incontrovertable evidence.

Can't argue with her on that.....

Nope, I think the right and left can come together on that :)
 

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The amusing part? Her entire recollection regarding her SNL appearance as relayed in her book is flat out lies refuted by contemporaneous emails produced by McCain staffers. She claims in the book that she was enthusiastic and wanted to be on SNL to show people she had a funny side and could take a joke, etc. The emails produced however stated that she thought SNL wasn't funny and that some of the things they talked about disgusted her and how she was reluctant to go on.

It's a strange habit of hers, telling lies easily refutable by incontrovertable evidence.

Is this train of thought like that of all the other leftish trolls here that keep shouting "Lies!" and then never prove anything other than that they have an opinion?

Palin is an inspiration. If she were a PhD she likely wouldn't be able to connect with much of anyone. Academia and nitpicking does that to a person.

Trying to make a lawyer's case by examining a masterpiece for a non-symmetrical brush stroke is meaningless.
 

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Ok since you brooched the subject, let's say you were really drunk at an Airport Bar and both Palin and Ann Coulter where hitting on you, would you try to bag them both at the same time (a little MMF action) or choose Palin over Coulter or Coulter over Palin?

Coulter scares the hell outta me. I'm pretty sure she's actually the salt sucker from the original Star Trek. I'd take home Palin, much nicer legs and lower chance I'll wake up dead.
 

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Coulter scares the hell outta me. I'm pretty sure she's actually the salt sucker from the original Star Trek. I'd take home Palin, much nicer legs and lower chance I'll wake up dead.
Plus with Coulter you might be in for a little surprise when you get in it's pants.
 

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ok since you brooched the subject, let's say you were really drunk at an airport bar and both palin and ann coulter where hitting on you, would you try to bag them both at the same time (a little mmf action) or choose palin over coulter or coulter over palin?
lol
 

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Ok since you brooched the subject, let's say you were really drunk at an Airport Bar and both Palin and Ann Coulter where hitting on you, would you try to bag them both at the same time (a little MMF action) or choose Palin over Coulter or Coulter over Palin?

Coulter is such a bony ass that if you stacked her on top of Palin, you could do both with a single stroke.
 

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Just read Mary Matlin's review of the book. An admitted fan of Palin's she did her best not to crucify Palin but the review was far from glowing.
 

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Which is why I don't personally know a single Republican, myself included, who would ever want her to be President. A piece of ass to take home after a few drinks? Sure, but President? No fucking way.

She is a beauty pageant contestant. She looks the part.. but when she opens her mouth her true colors show. She has no business even considering a run for president. If it weren't for Obama on the democratic ticket... I could have easily not voted for McCain.
 

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Originally Posted by jonks
The amusing part? Her entire recollection regarding her SNL appearance as relayed in her book is flat out lies refuted by contemporaneous emails produced by McCain staffers. She claims in the book that she was enthusiastic and wanted to be on SNL to show people she had a funny side and could take a joke, etc. The emails produced however stated that she thought SNL wasn't funny and that some of the things they talked about disgusted her and how she was reluctant to go on.

It's a strange habit of hers, telling lies easily refutable by incontrovertable evidence.

Is this train of thought like that of all the other leftish trolls here that keep shouting "Lies!" and then never prove anything other than that they have an opinion?

Palin is an inspiration. If she were a PhD she likely wouldn't be able to connect with much of anyone. Academia and nitpicking does that to a person.

Sounds like you aren't familiar with the difference between an opinion and a lie.

She "recalls" in her book how she so wanted to be on SNL.
Her emails from 2008 show how she so didn't want to be on SNL. That's called lying, and a train of thought is something quite foreign to Palin.

As to your claim about her being "an inspiration" and citing to her lack of advanced education, thoughtfulness, curiosity or knowledge as a positive enabler of that inspiration turns a blind eye to our current president who some few people have noted is inspirational as well despite his academic successes, advanced degrees, time in academia and his widely acknowledged base of knowledge.

George Bush and Bill Clinton were both great connectors with common people despite their graduate ivy league degrees as well. Palin chose not to pursue a graduate degree and instead opted for tv. Her choice, but I call bullshit on her "real working woman" guise.
 
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Which is why I don't personally know a single Republican, myself included, who would ever want her to be President. A piece of ass to take home after a few drinks? Sure, but President? No fucking way.


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PJABBER said:
Palin is an inspiration. If she were a PhD she likely wouldn't be able to connect with much of anyone. Academia and nitpicking does that to a person.
Sounds like you aren't familiar with the difference between an opinion and a lie.

She "recalls" in her book how she so wanted to be on SNL.
Her emails from 2008 show how she so didn't want to be on SNL. That's called lying, and a train of thought is something quite foreign to Palin.

As to your claim about her being "an inspiration" and citing to her lack of advanced education, thoughtfulness, curiosity or knowledge as a positive enabler of that inspiration turns a blind eye to our current president who some few people have noted is inspirational as well despite his academic successes, advanced degrees, time in academia and his widely acknowledged base of knowledge.

George Bush and Bill Clinton were both great connectors with common people despite their graduate ivy league degrees as well. Palin chose not to pursue a graduate degree and instead opted for tv. Her choice, but I call bullshit on her "real working woman" guise.
PJABBER speaks the truth: Palin is an inspiration to HIM. Which pretty much explains the quality of PJABBER's posts.