A company of atheists.

[ShawnD1]

Very few atheists on the battlefield . Funny how that works .

I would say there aren't any religious people on the field either. I can't remember which part of the bible says you're allowed to kill people for poorly explained political reasons.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I don't assume, it's a logical deduction! A belief in the bible = prejudiced towards the world!

you seem to not know what the word prejudice means. Belief in the bible = not judging people that are 'in the world' as immoral.

 

[slayer202]

you seem to not know what the word prejudice means. Belief in the bible = not judging people that are 'in the world' as immoral.

what nonsense are you speaking? the bible is the last(ok, maybe a slight exaggeration) piece of literature that that you should follow to lead a good and moral life

but we're getting more than a bit off topic here, and I don't want to start the same debate we've had a million times

 

[mattpegher]

I would say there aren't any religious people on the field either. I can't remember which part of the bible says you're allowed to kill people for poorly explained political reasons.

Ah but that brings up another question of morality vs citizenship. Defense of self, defense of family, defense of community and defense of nation, all are interesting and complex moral issues that should not be dismissed so readily. Also the role of the citizen/soldier regarding personal morality vs maintaining an ordered military. Just be glad others have to make those decisions and have spared you from making them.

 

[Broheim]

Very few atheists on the battlefield . Funny how that works .

In my platoon there was only one religous person (the son of a priest) he was actually one of the only, truly religious people I know. In denmark you have to look long and hard for religious people (excluding all the muslim immigrants), if you go to church on sundays you're pretty much a freak, if you're openly religious people wont say anything but they will all think you're a moron.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

what nonsense are you speaking? the bible is the last(ok, maybe a slight exaggeration) piece of literature that that you should follow to lead a good and moral life

but we're getting more than a bit off topic here, and I don't want to start the same debate we've had a million times

The story of Lord of the Rings is all about a hobbit who is about to have a birthday party.

Didn't you know? It's right there!

Yea, shit comes after that, but it's right there, black and white, clear as day!

It's about a hobbit having a birthday party.


The slow-pokes here make themselves feel smarter by taking a pretentious anti-conformity stances; I suppose just being contrarian is enough to palliate such persons' insecurities regarding their lack of intellectual prowess.

 

[Jeff7]

Yet evolution and chaos theory state that a tiger did occur spontaneously (coming or resulting from a natural impulse or tendency) out of the material of space, it took millions of millions of years at an highly unlikely rate, but it did occur. Granted not floating in the vacuum. Its not like were talking about a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias.

Alternate view: The chance of the Universe producing tigers by some means is evidently 100%.
So yes, evidently something can appear from.....well, whatever the hell there was before our charming little bubble of spacetime blew up. It doesn't seem to be a frequent occurrence though, at least not 'round these parts. That initial something didn't seem to be terribly structured or stable, either, though what it lead to did have some inherent properties that allow for localized and temporary pockets of what could be construed as orderly behavior.

Depends on how you define God. Is there possibly an alien life form that is unimaginably powerful from our perspective? Sure, there could be.

The religious definition of God though is one who is omnipotent and omniscient. I don't think such a thing is actually possible in the universe since such a being would still be bound by the limits of reality.

And I'd think that a being that is genuinely all-powerful would thus need to have all of the power and resources in the Universe, therefore God and the Universe are synonymous. And since God created the Universe in the first place, he also created the first paradox.

Think of Q from Star Trek. He's basically as close as you can get to God. But he's obviously just another form of life, enjoying no special status beyond his remarkable abilities. If a being like Q actually existed, he wouldn't be God. He wouldn't even be a god. He's just another inhabitant of the universe.

Quite right, perhaps just as we are to bacteria. We're billions of years ahead in terms of biological evolution, we can use bacteria as mere tools in our endeavors, we can exterminate large populations of them on a whim, but we're still not gods.

God by definition must be supernatural, and thus it's impossible for us to prove His existence. Hence the argument by agnostics that we are incapable of proving His existence one way or another, and the argument by religious people that we must have faith in something when there is no evidence.

Christopher Hitchens: "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."
Yeah, ok, you can have faith in a lot of things. Reality doesn't really care about what you think though, it's going to do what it does, with or without the approval of any number of humans.

All sorts of crazy, seemingly-impossible shit could happen and I still don't think I'd believe in God. If the skies parted and a voice addressed everyone on the planet, that could just as easily be a trick by a species much more advanced than our own. Like Q. Which is why Christians will tell you that God does not even attempt to reveal his presence. It wouldn't really change anything.

Admittedly, it'd be darn tough to prove a lot of deities, whose religions have done a good job of making it impossible to prove any of it. They have to stay ahead of the curve when it comes to our knowledge of the natural world. New discoveries and exploration continually fail to turn up any signs of these elusive gods, so they keep getting pushed farther and farther into the realm of improbability, and their powers and capabilities keep growing, to the point where it is just plain impossible to conclusively prove that they exist. You went from gods that could just create a mountain or a lake, then up to a planet, then all the stars in the sky, then on to all the galaxies of the Universe.

Very few atheists on the battlefield . Funny how that works .

Yeah. Our primate brains finally decide that they've had enough of the constant terror and stress of damn near dying day after day, and start seeking a way out. Any way out.
It's the same reason that torture isn't a good or reliable way of getting information. Under that kind of stress and duress, your mind starts doing some damn wacky stuff.
I'd imagine that under sufficient torture, I'd probably be able and willing to proclaim my belief in God, and genuinely believe it myself. Methods of creating incredible pain are quite numerous, and it'll definitely screw with your head. That's probably not quite the kind of conversion that an allegedly benevolent deity would want though. And if it is a valid and acceptable form of conversion in the eyes of said deity, that's a pretty damn scary, and wholly undesirable, entity to have wandering about.

 

[ShawnD1]

Admittedly, it'd be darn tough to prove a lot of deities, whose religions have done a good job of making it impossible to prove any of it.

Indians (feather) did a pretty good job of praising things that actually exist. Bears exist, crows exist, buffalo exist, fish exist.

 

[slayer202]

The story of Lord of the Rings is all about a hobbit who is about to have a birthday party.

Didn't you know? It's right there!

Yea, shit comes after that, but it's right there, black and white, clear as day!

It's about a hobbit having a birthday party.


The slow-pokes here make themselves feel smarter by taking a pretentious anti-conformity stances; I suppose just being contrarian is enough to palliate such persons' insecurities regarding their lack of intellectual prowess.

go ahead and try to explain the rape, murder, genocide, discrimination and stoning in the bible. I won't hold my breathe. Or maybe I just missed the part that came AFTER all that, that says "just kidding!"

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I'm pretty sure a group of Athiests is not a company but, an 'Agon.'

 

[mattpegher]

But what should we call a group of ATOT members?
gaggle?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

But what should we call a group of ATOT members?
gaggle?

That's a 'giggle.'
Trust me, I know these things.

 

[zinfamous]

But what should we call a group of ATOT members?
gaggle?

a murder.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

a murder.

That's crows silly.

 

[LumbergTech]

Pretty much all my coworkers are atheist. From what I've seen there are very few good engineers and scientists that are religious.

Didn't used to be that way but its becoming more that way

 

[Eli]

I don't really know, and don't really care either.

I do know of a couple of die-hard Catholics in the accounting department. I found out because I have a non-religious friend in accounting. I tried to casually talk to one of them about an episode of Family Guy once(before I knew), and she got all quiet and whispered, "Ooh.. We don't watch that in our household.."

I was like.. " Allllllllllllllllllllllrighty then..."

Apparently they post a daily prayer(from email) at their desk every morning and then say it at lunch..

 

[Leros]

I wasnt aware that being christian affected the value of 4+4, the sin(x), the atomic weight of carbon, the electrical charge between 2 charged particles, or the lift and drag of a swept wing.


the idea that religious folks are less intelligent or dont have logic reasoning, or make poor engineers, is nothing but trolling, IMO.


As for being illogical, it would seem that aethists are more illogical than the religious as most archaeological studies show that the 3 major religious texts (the bible, the koran, the tanakh) are all very much being historically accurate. Somehow you aethists seem to ignore that.

Your post contains faulty logic, thus affirming what I said.

 

[Leros]

ugh not this again. that's not what agnosticism means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

'do not know what to believe' =/= 'believing we can never know'

I poorly worded my post. I was using the terms in the way that most people do (not the correct terminology) to try to explain what most people think.

 

[Jeff7]

But what should we call a group of ATOT members?
gaggle?

A neffle.

 

[foghorn67]

In my platoon there was only one religous person (the son of a priest) he was actually one of the only, truly religious people I know. In denmark you have to look long and hard for religious people (excluding all the muslim immigrants), if you go to church on sundays you're pretty much a freak, if you're openly religious people wont say anything but they will all think you're a moron.

Sounds like an awful and pretentious place to live.

 

[Lifted]

A woman at company chewed my ear off today (btwn 5 - 6pm ) about those "sick" people - you know, teh gays - and how she can't understand how they can do what they do. This woman is by far the most religious person in the office - Christian of course - and just gave me my monthly reminder of why I hate brainwashed religious nutter hypocrites so much. Apparently they just need to convince themselves to live the right way and not be sinners.

"The bible says a man lies with a woman, and blah blah blah..."

 

[IAteYourMother]

Pretty much all my coworkers are atheist. From what I've seen there are very few good engineers and scientists that are religious.

Dunno where you work/went to school, but I have met a lot of top notch engineers and scientists who are religious.

 

[slayer202]

A woman at company chewed my ear off today (btwn 5 - 6pm ) about those "sick" people - you know, teh gays - and how she can't understand how they can do what they do. This woman is by far the most religious person in the office - Christian of course - and just gave me my monthly reminder of why I hate brainwashed religious nutter hypocrites so much. Apparently they just need to convince themselves to live the right way and not be sinners.

"The bible says a man lies with a woman, and blah blah blah..."

what a deluded wise and beautiful woman

 

[Angry Irishman]

what a deluded wise and beautiful woman

So the woman doesn't believe in homosexuality and she's a wise and beautiful woman...a deluded wise and beautiful woman at that. Is that because she is "christian of course" or just a regular wise and beautiful woman?

It's just as deluded to throw her in the mix and judge any other person of whatever religious background as the same.

So far what I've read/observed in this post is atheists are just as guilty as religious types for preaching what just has to be right and being just as condescending.

This is turning out to be just a great forum.

 

[sandorski]

God(of the Bible) = Ego maniacal genocidal being who seems quite inept to carry through it's plan

Hitler = Ego maniacal genocidal being who seems quite inept to carry through his plan

I have never seen God and Hitler in the same place

Therefor: God==Hitler