A case for religion, and against AA.

[dphantom]

Is that a "Yes"?

Is war genocide?

 

[sandorski]

Is war genocide?

Genocide is genocide.


genocide

Use Genocide in a sentence
gen·o·cide

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noun the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

 

[WilliamM2]

Is war genocide?

He didn't ask if it was genocide. Quit being so dishonest, and just answer the question.

Did "god" command the slaughter of people and did the ancient Jewish people carry out that slaughter or did they not?

 

[dphantom]

He didn't ask if it was genocide. Quit being so dishonest, and just answer the question.

He and you already know the answer. Or rather, there is only one answer you will accept regardless of the actual facts already laid out for you. So who is the dishonest one here?

 

[AViking]

He and you already know the answer. Or rather, there is only one answer you will accept regardless of the actual facts already laid out for you. So who is the dishonest one here?

This is the discussion club. What are you doing? You should be perfectly capable of conceding a point and not trying to sidestep it.

 

[dphantom]

This is the discussion club. What are you doing? You should be perfectly capable of conceding a point and not trying to sidestep it.

I am conceding nothing nor sidestepping though I have learned much from our angry atheists in this thread about how to sidestep actually answering anything.


All good though. Even if I or others cannot show you the compassion and love God has for you, at least we have tried.

Peace

 

[JEDIYoda]

Genocide is genocide.

actually nice side stepping the question.....of course genocide is genocide....duh......

Is war genocide was the question?

 

[AViking]

Did "god" command the slaughter of people and did the ancient Jewish people carry out that slaughter or did they not?

No. This was the question.

 

[sao123]

You are violating the spirit of this section by using an argument from authority.

It's a logical fallacy and is not appropriate in a discussion.

I wasn't aware empirical evidence was citing evidence from authority in circular logic... Im pretty sure it was encouraged.

Do you discount all modern archaeology?

• A Monument unearth in Israel in 1961, having the name Pontius Pilot inscribed on it.
• a burial box of bones, having the name of Caiaphas, the high priest who condemned Jesus
• Another burial box containing the words "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus." which was verified by the Geologic survey Team in Israel to be untampered and authentic. Also reviewed by Professor Joseph Fitzmyer, expert on 1st Century Aramic Artifacts.
• Until recently, modern scholars doubted the Nazareth even existed at the time Jesus supposedly lived. In 2009, portions of Clay Jars dated to the early 1st century were found in Nazerath, proving the city existed at that time.
• 9 Separate 1st Century Historians / Officials acknowledge that Jesus was a real person and wrote about him: Jewish Historian Flavius Josephus, Roman Historians Tacitus and Suetonius. Roman Government Officials: Pliny the Younger and Emporer Trajan.
  Thallus, Phlegon, Mara Bar-Serapion and Lucian of Samosate.
  

And much more... Do you deny all this archaeology?
http://y-jesus.com/wp-content/tcpdf-pdf/1848.pdf

In fact there is more archaeological evidence for the existence of a man named Jesus of Nazerath, than there is for both Ceasar Augustus and Alexander the Great, I don't see anyone questioning that they were in fact real persons.

 

[dphantom]

No. This was the question.

sounds like war to me but that is personal opinion

 

[sandorski]

sounds like war to me but that is personal opinion

Does it? Perhaps for some of the Ancients, but that is not any kind of Modern version of "War".

 

[dphantom]

Does it? Perhaps for some of the Ancients, but that is not any kind of Modern version of "War".

so you judge the past by current standards?

 

[sandorski]

so you judge the past by current standards?

Somewhat. I judge the actions of an alleged Timeless Being much more harshly than I do Ancient Peoples.

 

[WilliamM2]

He and you already know the answer. Or rather, there is only one answer you will accept regardless of the actual facts already laid out for you. So who is the dishonest one here?

You are.

 

[dphantom]

Somewhat. I judge the actions of an alleged Timeless Being much more harshly than I do Ancient Peoples.

That is interesting. You deny God - "Timeless Being" - yet judge that entity more harshly than the ancient people. Yet if there is no God - your belief - then in fact you are judging those people by modern standards - that is your own.

 

[sandorski]

That is interesting. You deny God - "Timeless Being" - yet judge that entity more harshly than the ancient people. Yet if there is no God - your belief - then in fact you are judging those people by modern standards - that is your own.

No. In this thread, I am judging Posters who insist that their Timeless Being they hold as Righteous and Holy as having been deceived. In my effort to help them see this fact, I am showing them that their Timeless Being is nether Righteous nor Holy.

 

[dphantom]

No. In this thread, I am judging Posters who insist that their Timeless Being they hold as Righteous and Holy as having been deceived. In my effort to help them see this fact, I am showing them that their Timeless Being is nether Righteous nor Holy.

Matthew 7:1-5
English Standard Version (ESV)

7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

 

[sandorski]

Matthew 7:1-5
English Standard Version (ESV)

7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Inapplicable.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Does it? Perhaps for some of the Ancients, but that is not any kind of Modern version of "War".

describe a modern version of war....guns, tanks, aircraft, naval destroyers...submarines.....well duh...go figure....

you still did not answer the question -- is war genocide?

simple question......
You must be am atheist if you think as an atheist you can only ask questions...

As an Atheist you are real good and ducking and dodging questions.

Now answer the question....

Is war genocide?

 

[JEDIYoda]

In my effort to help them see this fact, I am showing them that their Timeless Being is nether Righteous nor Holy.
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Now that is laughable at best and pathetic at worse!

So far everything you have said,you have backed up with no corroborating evidence to prove your points.
Other than your unsubstantiated word.

You keep ducking the question -- Is war genocide?

That should be easy enough to answer for a man of your legendary knowledge of the scriptures...

 

[JEDIYoda]

Matthew 7:1-5
English Standard Version (ESV)

7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
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fully applicable to Sandorsky!!

 

[sandorski]

describe a modern version of war....guns, tanks, aircraft, naval destroyers...submarines.....well duh...go figure....

you still did not answer the question -- is war genocide?

simple question......
You must be am atheist if you think as an atheist you can only ask questions...

As an Atheist you are real good and ducking and dodging questions.

Now answer the question....

Is war genocide?

No. Genocide is the systematic murder of a complete group of people. War is between nations involving mostly the killing of opposing Military forces until one side Surrenders or both sides decide to end hostilities. It does not involve killing every last Man, Woman, Child, and even the domesticated animals of the enemy.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

No. In this thread, I am judging Posters who insist that their Timeless Being they hold as Righteous and Holy as having been deceived. In my effort to help them see this fact, I am showing them that their Timeless Being is nether Righteous nor Holy.

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[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Sans-serif,sans-serif]there is nothing patently immoral about the Creator of life taking away life. It's immoral for us because when we take life, usually we are exercising a prerogative reserved for God alone.[/FONT]

 

[sandorski]

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Nonsense.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQorzOS-F6w&t=11m15s

Until 11:48

Doesn't sound righteous in my opinion.