Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Fuck Terrorists. Fuck Wahabbi Islam.
In essence, fuck Muslims. You can't blame a religion, it's an inanimate concept. It's the people who fanatically follow it and use it to justify such horrors who are at fault. Further, it's hardly "only the radicals". By the standards of other religions, most Muslims are radical.
I joined the AT forums in November of '01 (my alias at the time was "Astaroth33"), and for a long time I was posting a significant amount of vehemently anti-Muslim rhetoric. Right now, a guy who I consider to be one of my best friends happens to be Muslim, and he taught me that
not all Muslims are against the American way of life.
You're right. Not all, just most.
You are part of the biggest problem i have flxnimprtmscl, Ckent and Ocguy.
Ocguy, i wonder what gave you the impression that "it's hardly "only the radicals""?
Kadarin, i pretty much made the same discovery after i did my first tour, on this prolonged tour i see it more like protecting the society from the Talibans, the society is Muslim and they are good people, the Taliban are not good people, in fact, they are the most disgusting group i have ever come across and i have seen some shit in my 20+ years as a Soldier.
Well, here's the thing. The same brutal and oppressive practices have been going on in Muslim nations for generations. Granted, most nations, America included, have some pretty dark practices somewhere in their history. But, civilized societies eventually become... civilized. They become more moderate. They weed out their crazy people.
So here's how I view it. There are the radicals, whatever percentage of the population they may be, and then there is the rest of the populous, which seems to condone, or at least turn a blind eye to the more extreme sort of behavior.
Now you've obviously been stationed in some Muslim nations and from what you've seen you've formed your own opinions. You may be absolutely correct. However, I'll stick with my own opinion, based upon what I've seen, until such a time as I see evidence to the contrary or have an experience similar to yours that forces me to reconsider my opinions. Take it as you will but I'm not in any way prejudiced. I've simply formed an opinion based on the evidence I've seen.
On an unrelated note, thank you for your service.
I'm sorry, either you are very young or very ignorant, who has fed you this BULLSHIT? Because that is what it is.
Yeah, lets sort out the radicals, ok, so ther's about 1.2 BILLION Muslims, we sort the radicals up and round it into once decimal and we have 1.2 BILLION Muslims.
Yes i have been stationed in five Muslim nations, the one that has affected me the most is Afghanistan, where i am now, this is a place where the population has been tortured, the crimes against the population here by the Talibans still make me vomit when i enter a camp they have been in, it's worse than you can ever imagine.
But these ... animals.. they aren't more muslim then they are christian or hindu, they are just... i don't know what to call them.
The thing is that i am defending a Muslim population against the reoccuring attacs or, not anymore, that's someone elses job now, even though i like to stay behind and stay up just so there is enough men to do this job.
You see, Islam isn't any different from Christianity when it comes to the message of love and in what cases you have the right to use force, it's the speakers, the preachers that pervert the religion into something that suddenly goes against all that it stands for and for some reason, some people follow the leaders and not the religion.
My point is that Muslims are no more violent than you or me, the KKK are Christian would you say they are more violent, Al-Fatah are Muslims, would you say they are more violent?
You get my point, i'm sure, the question is that now when you have been told, do you have the guts to find out if i'm right and more importantly, if i'm right, do you have the guts to stand by your knowledge or will it just be back to "ah yeah, damn Muslums!!!!"
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