Well done to everyone who religiously defends Nvidia's pricing.
54.4% margins helped by Keplar.
Im sure Titan will push that up further!
54.4% margins helped by Keplar.
Im sure Titan will push that up further!
54.4% Margins - Nvidia
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BrightCandle
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This is a common margin in the technology world. Nvidia isn't anything special in this regard, Cisco aim for similar, Google aims much higher as does Microsoft. There is a lot of risk in the industry and its value to people is clearly high enough they pay it.
From 90nm+ GPU's down to 28nm GPU's prices should have come down with the rest of the electronics inside a PC.
Graphics cards have continuously increased in price. a 90nm chip means A LOT less chips per wafer and less profits and perfect GPU's. Today a wafer can produce many more chips and a whole range of different chips at different price points.
Where things like CPU's and SSD's have dropped in price. GPU's have got more expensive as they have become cheaper to produce.
I guess we are suckers.
Graphics cards have continuously increased in price. a 90nm chip means A LOT less chips per wafer and less profits and perfect GPU's. Today a wafer can produce many more chips and a whole range of different chips at different price points.
Where things like CPU's and SSD's have dropped in price. GPU's have got more expensive as they have become cheaper to produce.
I guess we are suckers.
Yeah, on the other hand: We all could buy a 7970 for $549 without hundreds of free games and more driver bugs than a Starship Troper can kill.
How was that called? Right: "Go premium" strategy.
Write a letter to AMD and thanks them for outsmarting themself.
/edit: Oh and: How is it possible to produce more chips on a 300mm^2 wafer than on another 300mm^2 wafer?!
How was that called? Right: "Go premium" strategy.
Write a letter to AMD and thanks them for outsmarting themself.
/edit: Oh and: How is it possible to produce more chips on a 300mm^2 wafer than on another 300mm^2 wafer?!
You cant mix hardware and software margins as they are totally different.
But yes im sure people will pay it.
Im still not happy about "Record" margins though. just shows we are being squeezed
AtenRa
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Because the chips are smaller and the wafers are getting bigger and 20nm has even bigger wafers
Also my 7970 doesnt have driver bugs.
AMD would love to have those kinds of margins, but they were forced to go in for price cuts and large software bundles to stay competitive.
I don't get why you see having a high margin as a bad thing?
I don't get why you see having a high margin as a bad thing?
Arachnotronic
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You don't like that the company is doing well and that investors are doing well?
Go live in a communist or socialist state if you think making money is evil. Nvidia makes a great product, and there's lots of demand. Without profits, companies leave the industry, and you don't get new products.
Get it?
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/NVIDIA_(NVDA)/Data/Operating_Margin
15.6% operating margin.
AMDs is negative, should Nvidia really be aiming for that too?
15.6% operating margin.
AMDs is negative, should Nvidia really be aiming for that too?
Im not an investor im a consumer. Which means i want cheap prices and high value.
Man some of you people are so dumb. Unless you own shares in Nvidia higher margins are BAD for us consumers.
Lets all cheer Nvidia for selling the 690 GTX for $1000 with effective 2GB of VRAM which means less than a year later its bottlenecked and cant perform as well it should. The 680 GTX which cant compete with a 7970 but costs more!
I think some people should decide if you are an employee/investor or a consumer because its VERY weird to see consumers cheering higher prices more profit!
And? It's not nVidia's fault that AMD is not competitive in the high end.
BTW: How is 300mm^2 bigger than 300mm^2?
The 7990 is the fastest card and the 7970 owns the 680 GTX.
Im sure they are competitive.
I dont have a favourite company this is your whole problem!
Who has favourite companies? Jesus no wonder some of you are so deluded.
I cheer for TEAM ME!
Just to put this into perspective. That margin is higher than Apple which not so long ago was working on a 14% net margin. Apple now has over 20% net margin. Margins seem to just go up lately at our expense
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How is it a troll thread. Nvidia just released their results with record margins.
Does this offend you or something?
I've got 32.1% here which is more than double Nvidia.
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Apple_(AAPL)/Data/operating_margin
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Apple_(AAPL)/Data/Net_Margin
23.5 here. Different margins different reporting. You have to be careful because companies report differently.
Also expect margins to be higher than reported due to tax avoidance
Nvidias net margin last quarter was 13.1% which has clearly jumped this quarter
Some will sell their own family and a little willy just to get green card. Even if AMD would pay them to use radeon GPU, they still go for nvidia.
Ohhh, and one more thing:
Nvidia cards expensive? AMD fault!
Ohhh, and one more thing:
Nvidia cards expensive? AMD fault!
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