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alkemyst

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Meh, I'd be happy with 200K/yr combined income as long as I get to telecommute a day or two. OP, sounds like you've already achieved this so grats... you can live the dream for us poorer folk. In the end I've realized that it's my time that's worth the most, working is just to pay the bills and mortgage. If you've finally realized this and have spent every waking moment of your life working, then sorry to hear. It only gets better from here since you're ahead of the game (financially). Retire early if you can, spend as much time as you can with the ones you care about. Life is short.

Most making $200k+ outside of doctors and the like are doing quite a bit of telecommuting. Even at the near 100k mark many jobs you are working from home a lot especially if it's anything like documentation.

Most making those salaries will retire early. There are the few that blow it all and end up with nothing to show. When you have money the 16 hours outside of work ramp up tremendously each day...you can leverage that salary against all the petty things the working joe has to do for themselves. You can forget washing your own clothes, cleaning your own house/car, taking care of the yard, cooking. Hell you can even find people to pick up your dogs crap cheap.

The problem with the average salary and the 8 hour day is one still has about 4 hours of stuff to do.
 

Eos

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I threw that number out there as I believe it was mentioned as a teacher's salary.

A decent certified nursing assistant can make $40k/year. It takes about 8 weeks of school and hard work.

Millions of Americans are too good to start at the bottom and work their way up. Nobody wants to be a Wal-Mart cashier or a receptionist while they go to school or try to work their way up in the system. No, we all want to start off as middle management with 6 weeks of vacation and full benefits.

Dude. You owe me a new keyboard from the milk I just spit all over it. CNA? $40k a year? bwahahahahahaha

Not after 8 weeks of school and not even in CA.
 

13Gigatons

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Rich people always complain. Boohoo I have to pay 20% to the fed cause I make so much. Boohoo.
 

DangerAardvark

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It's funny how being born white, middle class and with both parents in the richest nation on Earth, and then going to become successful is considered "working your way up".
 

DaWhim

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my effective tax rate to IRS was 9% for yr 2010.

I like to think that whoever pays the least effective taxes win.

the society does need more people that like you.
 

Illyusha

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and no telling how much in sales taxes, local taxes, property taxes, etc.etc.etc.

I know that there is a study that shows the percent of income that all brackets pay in taxes (all types). It wasn't a runaway winner for the top bracket as many thought it would be.

That would be an interesting graph. :) My issue is that I'm divorced and single and have no dependents and I gross $65000. I do own a home and am able to write off interest on payments and student loans, but what pisses me off is when wealthy people generalize about the minimal amount of taxes paid by those making 75-80% less than they do. :thumbsdown:

I pay 10% less tax than somebody that earns 300% more than I do annually (and I have gone through hell to earn my money).
 
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Eos

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So how do you tell the difference between jealousy and just pointing out a contrary opinion?
 

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So how do you tell the difference between jealousy and just pointing out a contrary opinion?

I haven't really seen much evidence of jealousy in this thread, but it's pretty typical to accuse people of jealousy anytime they criticize someone who has a lot of money. You see it in most threads about celebrities here. Because ATOTers couldn't possibly dislike Justin Beiber's music for any reason other than that he makes a lot of money.
 
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Are you saving lives or drastically improving the human condition through what you do? If so, kudos to you. If not, and you're able to eat well, keep a roof over your head, receive medical care, and support your family, then fuck you.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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Was this ever answered?

Holy shit this thread keeps going. I'm not going to bother reading back though. I work in medical IT.

Edit: and from what I read yesterday, most people still missed the point of this thread. I am fortunate to be able to pay taxes and am happy to do so despite the government pissing the money away, but I do not feel like the elite wealthy individual that is the problem with the country. If I didn't want to pay so much in taxes the solution would be to quit earning so much.

My issue is with the way 1% is continually attacked as controlling all of the wealth. I can assure you, I have no political influence, nor do I live a lavish lifestyle filled with hookers and 7 gram rocks. I don't own a yacht, a Rolls, or a NY penthouse.
 
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moshquerade

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Holy shit this thread keeps going. I'm not going to bother reading back though. I work in medical IT.
LOL, same here. I just skimmed and didn't see where you answered that question.

Good for you, being successful, and having your hard work pay off. :thumbsup:
 

jhbball

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That is the magic number. That is what I owe the tax man. That is in addition to the $40,000 I already paid. That is after I've completely maxed out my deductions, fully funded my SEP-IRA and have done everything legal to lower my income liability.

I'm at the bottom of the top 1% of earners. I'm the 1% that everyone rallies against as controlling all the wealth. Funny thing is... I make a lot because I work hard, run the risk of owning a business, and sacrificed to get my masters degree. And for the other 99% let me tell you...it isn't THAT great being in the top 1%. I don't get any help. I don't get subsidies. I basically get to work. And while I don't have to worry about money and can afford generally nice things, I don't have the ability to go out and buy a Ferrari to color match a yacht. I don't vacation for 12 weeks in Fiji. I don't sleep on a mattress stuffed with hundred dollar bills.

So, this thread is dedicated to those who have earned their income the hard way - with blood, sweat and tears - and to say fuck you for anyone who says we don't deserve it. I am proud to say I am paying $100,000 into the system this year; I am proud to contribute to society, even though I disagree with the way government spends money; and I'm proud to be in that EVIL 1%.

rofl "medical IT". I'm sure you're really worked to the bone.

Greedy idiot is greedy.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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It's funny how being born white, middle class and with both parents in the richest nation on Earth, and then going to become successful is considered "working your way up".

First, you assume too much. And it is interesting that you are saying that in a negative way, as if white middle class American children chose to be born that way...
 

Apple Of Sodom

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rofl "medical IT". I'm sure you're really worked to the bone.

Greedy idiot is greedy.

For the person who asked how you can tell the difference between jealousy and a different opinion...this is a prime example of the former.

Not everyone can do what I do and yeah, I am worked pretty hard. Why don't you tell us what you do?



Old meme is old.