4K monitors and 1080p resolution?

[bystander36]

Yes they do. There are three distinct phosphors, one for each color, arranged in a specific pattern, and that pattern determines the pixel count and orientation. You can't just invent phosphors in other locations for different resolutions, they're coated on the inside of the CRT glass.

I'm not entirely sure on the specifics on how it is done, but CRT's do not have a fixed grid of pixels. Looking on the specifics on how it is done, there is still no fixed pixels. Anyone who ever used CRT's as their monitor, will know this.

Here is a page that describes the difference between the monitors tech's, and it too says the same thing. CRT's do not have a fixed resolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_Plasma,_and_OLED

No native resolution. Currently, the only display technology capable of multi-syncing (displaying different resolutions and refresh rates without the need for scaling). Display lag is extremely low due to its nature, which does not have the ability to store image data before output, unlike LCDs, plasma displays and OLED displays.

 

[Mand]

It's not quite "pixel" but it is a fixed, immutable pattern.

 

[toyota]

results is only as good as the scaler.

amazing how old school crt scaled perfectly.
SC1 with standard 640x480 resolution scaled look exactly the same on a 1920x1440 21" ViewSonic PF815.

sorry but that sounds like nonsense. I have owned and used many a crt and lower res most certainly does not look like native res on those either. it does not get as blurry and smeared looking like on an lcd but its clearly worse looking when running a lower res.

 

[bystander36]

It's not quite "pixel" but it is a fixed, immutable pattern.

Yeah, there is some sort of substructure of phosphors, but the resolution is not fixed. I am assuming they get away with it because they are aligned in a much smaller grid than the size of the pixels they light up with the electron gun.

 

[UaVaj]

sorry but that sounds like nonsense. I have owned and used many a crt and lower res most certainly does not look like native res on those either. it does not get as blurry and smeared looking like on an lcd but its clearly worse looking when running a lower res.

I am NOT getting into a debate with you. end of discussion.

next time. adjust your view distance. it might help.

 

[UaVaj]

I'm not entirely sure on the specifics on how it is done, but CRT's do not have a fixed grid of pixels. Looking on the specifics on how it is done, there is still no fixed pixels. Anyone who ever used CRT's as their monitor, will know this.

Here is a page that describes the difference between the monitors tech's, and it too says the same thing. CRT's do not have a fixed resolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_Plasma,_and_OLED

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[toyota]

I am NOT getting into a debate with you. end of discussion.

next time. adjust your view distance. it might help.

oh so now I need to adjust my view distance? lol did the physical size of the screen change? its not my fault you cant see how inferior 640x480 looks compare to 1920x1440 on the same screen.

 

[Mondozei]

It's only been a few weeks. I would hope that someone isn't buying a 4k monitor for the sole purposes of 2k gaming. Might as well also build a server with a Xeon chip just to play Space Quest 2.

The resolution was 1080p, not 2K.

That would only be video generally. And as mentioned previously, monitors, especially the less expensive ones, will not have any processing built in to scale anyway.

If people want a scaler, buy a TV.

The easier solutions would be to incorporate that into the video cards, not the displays.

The ignorance... is strong with this one.

 

[Mondozei]

So, I can confirm the 590D do not look very good running at 1080p. Looks worse than my 950D even if it is an inch smaller. Seems like it doesn't scale right.

Man, what a shame.

Does anyone else have a new'ish single-stream 4K monitor and can shed some light?

We may need to wait a year or two for this issue to get fixed, just like the lack of single-stream displays.

 

[naukkis]

It's not quite "pixel" but it is a fixed, immutable pattern.

Crt's don't have pixels but lines instead. There's no way to shoot invidual pixels with electron gun so color pixels have to arrange in lines to be able to refresh each subcolor with their own refresh cycle.

Theres' few kind of different masks to lines which makes those lines appear more pixel like but after all crt's newer could have real fixed pixels.

 

[Z15CAM]

I purchased a QNIX 2710 Evo II Matte Samsung PLS Screen from Greensum last summer for $268. Plus I bought a Monoprice 24AWG Dual-Link Dvi-D cable. Using the "atikmdag-patcher.exe" and the latest version of "CRU.exe" this QX2710 Evo II easily does 60 - 96 - 114 and 120 Hz - NO dead pixels and Back light Bleed is minimal - I'm very impressed and colour is fantastic right outta the Box.

BF4 flies in this display at 1440p with R9 290X's in X-Fire under water with an i7 2700k at 4.8Ghz's and I rarely go above 60C for either the CPU (CPU and DDR3 1866 Mhz DDR3 9-9-9-24-1T at 1.35v) or GPU's running at + 0.162mV at 1280 x 1500 Mhz with Alpida vRam.

Believe me once you TN 1080p Guys and Gals start using an Over-Clockable 1440p PLS Matte South Korean Screen with that Single Dvi-D Port you will never look back. I have no issues with scaling 1080p or any resolution for that matter including running a Hauppaugge WinTV PVR card at frequencies between 60 to 120Hz and play Movies of any rez you can think of.

In my opinion either the QNIX 2710 Evo II or X-Star South Korean equivalent with the Single Dvi-D port PLS Matte Display is an Enthusiasts Dream Monitor for approx $300.

Besides me, will you listen, to what other owners of these displays are telling you and quit arguing that a None Over-Clockable Multi-Port PLS Display costing twice as much is capable of matching it - Including the TN 120Hz 1080 Panels costing over $300 when it comes to Performance, Colour and Pricing for $300.

These Monitors are Enthusiastic Oriented such that with little experience you can tare them apart to fix anomalies yourself. http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club-read-1st-post

I bought one and I want 2 more for a 3 Panel 4320 x 2560 Res display and that's how good they are in my opinion ;o)

When it comes to 144Hz 1080p TN Display offerings for horrendous prices, I have yet to reach how fast this monitor will do at 1440p, but I would not be surprised it could do 134Hz with the Monoprice 24 AWG Dual-Link Dvi-D Cables and a couple of OC'd 290's or 290X's in X-Fire under water pushing it - 120FPS at 1440p - Man!

Really! What are these confounding arguments about $300 South Korean PLS Displays that Render Fantastic 1440p Res Colour at Hi-Frequencies as if looking through a Clear Pane Window

Here's a Hi-Lite, I can Screen Capture DVD 720p Flics in a Corner of my QNIX Evo II Display as I continue on my way.

The QNIX 2710 Evo II and X-Star equivalent are the Best Buy/Performance Display on the market right now.