CADsortaGUY
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
CAD, explain this to me please (I haven't had my coffee for the day)...<<Again, I don't think this war needs justified by the ends.>>
Would you say that if the justifications given by Bush turn out to be false, that it's ok because we ousted Saddam? If Bush lied to garner support, would you say that that's ok, also?
My "justification" has nothing to do with G.W. Bush. Again, for the last time - Saddam should have been removed after he broke the cease-fire agreement. It really is too bad that we've had to mess with this for so long.
CkG
Sorry Cad, but I don't see an answer to my question anywhere in your reply. If you'd rather not give an answer, just say so...I won't press you.
If it turns out that we were lied to/deceived in any way, is that ok in your opinion because Saddam has been ousted and the Iraqis liberated? Let's pretend that our president's name is Bill Clinton so that you aren't swayed in any (Republican) way.
The fact that SH should have been removed years ago doesn't, IMO, have any bearing on the question, btw.
Could you possibly answer the question without using any double talk? A simple 'yes' or 'no' will do.
Do you not understand a word I've said? I've stated my position. There are alot of "What ifs" and like I said - THEY DON'T MATTER to me when it comes to "Justification" (IMO ) MY justification doesn't involve what the President said his reasons are. Get it? You are asking me to defend a position from an angle that I don't need and didn't even use.
If you look at my reason for the war's justification - it totally bypasses all this rhetoric spew. Saddam broke his agreement - that is all the justification needed- PERIOD.
I will not answer your twisted question with a yes or no. Your question is asking if it is ok to be lied to/decieved because we liberated people from Saddam. Lying isn't what is being justified here -the war is. You can't pigeon hole the "justification" argument like you have. It isn't a black and white question. IF Bush lied about the threat Saddam posed to US(which he didn't), the war could still be justifiable on humanitarian and regional security grounds, no?
Ask a good question you get good answers - ask a twisted one - then you get twisted answers. You don't get good answers to twisted questions.
CkG