3080TI/3070TI Reviews Thread

[BFG10K]

I don't think anyone cares. This generation is a total bust unless a miracle drops the prices.

I suspect low end cards are intentionally being held back so the gouging can continue.

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3070TI Edit:

Colossal power consumption increase for marginal extra performance overall. I've said for years that memory bandwidth hasn't been the primary limitation on GPUs.

LOL @ 8GB for "$600".

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 3070 Ti is designed to bring the fight to Radeon RX 6800 non-XT. To achieve their goal, NVIDIA maxed out the GA104 GPU design and switched to faster GDDR6X memory. Unfortunately, this also resulted in an increase in power consumption and heat output.

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[SteveGrabowski]

lol at the GN review. It's funny how he bashes it at $1200. Like anyone will actually get it at that price.

It also seems to use the 3080 coolor and not the much bigger 3090 cooler. It means the AIB ones will be better than the FE.

I don't know, it only mines like a 3060 and 3060s sell on ebay mostly in the $850 to $1000 range.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Which is just a sensible business decision, that really won't have much impact on anyone looking for an inexpensive card in these crazy times. You will have a hard time buying a 3070 for $1200 right now, so they may as well price the 3080 ti at that.

RTX 3070 is about 20% more profitable in nicehash than RTX 3080 Ti.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

If that was the case, there wouldn't be any shortages. Demand is off the charts, AIB will price this $1800 or above.

https://corporate.bestbuy.com/what-...e-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition-graphics-card/

BestBuy corporate actually released a statement. They will be issuing "tickets" for an opportunity to purchase this thing, and lines are already forming. So yes, people do care. Care enough to stand in line for 12 hours to buy $1200 video card.

You think gamers are paying $1800 for an AIB card? Miners sure won't for something that mines like a ~$900 RTX 3060.

 

[moonbogg]

People are bidding these over $2300 regularly it seems. I can't see miners paying that much unless a hash rate hack has been secured. It has to be mostly gamers spending that much. I'm having a hard time computing this in my reptilian smooth-brain.

 

[sze5003]

At least the 3080's on ebay have dropped from 2k to like 1800-1900, what a deal! My friend sold his used 3080 for $2100, 2 months ago.

The evga elite queue for the ftw3 3080ti moved up to the 7:34 timestamp before they ran out of cards.

They are hoping to have more later this week. I'm guessing I'm probably a month out at this point.

 

[moonbogg]

Yeah, we'll have to wait and see what mid 2022 brings. Maybe next gen will be more available. I'm not overpaying or waiting in line all night at Microcenter. I'll never need a GPU that bad.

 

[Borealis7]

i really don't understand this 3080TI product in terms of positioning and pricing, seems so pointless. they released this card just because you can't physically get 3090's?

 

[sze5003]

i really don't understand this 3080TI product in terms of positioning and pricing, seems so pointless. they released this card just because you can't physically get 3090's?

They released it because it's easier to make a 3080Ti than a 3090. The other reason is because they can charge more for it than a 3080 and they know the market has been inflated anyway. You can't physically and easily get either of the cards anyway.

 

[Borealis7]

They released it because it's easier to make a 3080Ti than a 3090. The other reason is because they can charge more for it than a 3080 and they know the market has been inflated anyway. You can't physically and easily get either of the cards anyway.

im not sure how it works in regards to AIBs, but i imagine that nVidia gets the same $ per chip no matter what, and the AIBs are the ones pricing the complete card and selling it on their sites or ship it to stores which then adjust the price according to demand (which is sky high right now). so the reason cards go for 300% of MSRP right now is not nVidia's fault, the way i see it, nVidia is doing the AIB's a "favor" by allowing them to ship cards at high prices, increasing their revenues.

 

[Heartbreaker]

im not sure how it works in regards to AIBs, but i imagine that nVidia gets the same $ per chip no matter what, and the AIBs are the ones pricing the complete card and selling it on their sites or ship it to stores which then adjust the price according to demand (which is sky high right now). so the reason cards go for 300% of MSRP right now is not nVidia's fault, the way i see it, nVidia is doing the AIB's a "favor" by allowing them to ship cards at high prices, increasing their revenues.

This. I'd rather the card makers get some of the extra money, and not have all it go to the vultures in between.

Yesterday I saw a reddit post from someone who "won" a Newegg Shuffle for an AMD 6900XT and a MB (he didn't want a MB) for $2800.

It's beyond absurd right now.

 

[sze5003]

This. I'd rather the card makers get some of the extra money, and not have all it go to the vultures in between.

Yesterday I saw a reddit post from someone who "won" a Newegg Shuffle for an AMD 6900XT and a MB (he didn't want a MB) for $2800.

It's beyond absurd right now.

I agree but I've also seen a 6900xt at microcenter for $2300. So it the end it's the retailers also trying to get a bigger cut seeing the market situation.

 

[HomerJS]

Yep. As much as I hate these crazy times and prices, if I were running NVidia, I'd raise the MSRP as well to get a cut of the insane pricing.

A lower MSRP would just give more money to the retail/reseller channel, not actually get cheaper cards to consumers.

Ultimately the ONLY way to get lower prices is for consumers to stop paying these insane prices.

I bought Case/PSU and CPU cooler, to do a build, and shelved it because of the insane prices, that I won't contribute to.

Increasing supply would stop the insane aftermarket

 

[Heartbreaker]

Increasing supply would stop the insane aftermarket

They would if they could. In case you haven't noticed there is world wide, multi-product semiconductor shortage. It's slowing production on cars, because they can't get enough computer chips for them.

 

[moonbogg]

It's hard to have constant oversupply potential because HOW MUCH money does it cost to have tons of excess fab capacity "just in case" we need it? You can fund a small country with what it costs to build and maintain one of those places.

 

[Artorias]

If the next series of GPU's from NVIDA or AMD are overpriced you can kiss goodbye to any half decent PC ports for the next decade.

Publishers will not support a platform with a userbase that cannot run their games. You literally have not been able to get any entry level cards for cheaper than a standard console.

Somehow I don't see how all of these current issues go away. Unless you have governments around the world collectively banning crypto speculation, this will always threaten the GPU market. Those tech fabs cost billions, and years to setup. Good luck for anyone looking to upgrade in the next 3 years.

 

[CP5670]

To be honest all the AAA games are ported these days anyway, with not much effort from the developers. The consoles are so close to PCs now anyway. PC exclusives are limited to indie games that will run on any hardware.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

People are bidding these over $2300 regularly it seems. I can't see miners paying that much unless a hash rate hack has been secured. It has to be mostly gamers spending that much. I'm having a hard time computing this in my reptilian smooth-brain.

I thought the founders cards weren't hash rate limited like the AIB will be.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Increasing supply would stop the insane aftermarket

Not as long as cryptomining is profitable

 

[sze5003]

I thought the founders cards weren't hash rate limited like the AIB will be.

Yea the FE models come without the hash rate limit. I was surprised, also filtering eBay by sold and completed and seeing 3080ti's going for over $2200.

Although completed listings don't necessarily mean they were sold. Sometimes an item comes up as that and a scammer may have won the auction or someone didn't pay and it will get relisted in a few weeks.

 

[jpiniero]

The 3070 Ti reviews are out... isn't worth making a new thread. Basically it's only like 5-6% faster yet draws a ton more power compared to the regular 3070.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Yea the FE models come without the hash rate limit. I was surprised, also filtering eBay by sold and completed and seeing 3080ti's going for over $2200.

3080 Ti and 3070 Ti FE models have HRL. This has been tested by multiple people.

 

[sze5003]

3080 Ti and 3070 Ti FE models have HRL. This has been tested by multiple people.

Yea I must have gotten the wrong info then, there were too many articles out with different variations of info.

 

[jpiniero]

Yea I must have gotten the wrong info then, there were too many articles out with different variations of info.

Could just be that the 3080 and 3070 FE won't have the limiter.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Could just be that the 3080 and 3070 FE won't have the limiter.

I think this is it. They would probably issue a new SKU for those cards, which they haven't, and may or may not do in the future.

At this point thought, they much just stop producing Non Ti FE cards in favor of the more lucrative 3070 Ti FE and 3080 Ti FE cards.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Even at MSRP the 3070TI would have landed with a wet splat, but in a post-MSRP world who knows.

We'll see if the HRL makes any sort of tangible difference in street pricing between the two cards, although I doubt it.