3 boys sexually assault girl, get 30 days.

[Vic]

So I take it you missed:


Because being unable to distinguish between small crimes and large crimes would also seem to be the antithesis of proper morality and values right?

Keep backpedaling.

 

[MrPickins]

Pulling the pants off of a person without consent, then writing on her body and taking pictures deserves a harsher penalty than 30 days in juvie.

Even worse:

two were ordered to serve 30 days - during weekends

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[thegimp03]

30 days on weekends...what a joke. Now the boys families are going to get sued, but I'm sure their rich parents will just cut a check and settle out of court to avoid future embarrassment. Saratoga is a pretty small community, there should be an uproar.

 

[Vic]

Asking a conservative to not take the side of rapists is like asking a conservative to stop being racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and illogical etc. Not going to happen.

Also, i see my nehalem sig is as relevant as ever.

Is there a conservative who ISN'T a repulsive piece of shit?

I think this is an entirely unfair statement. Most conservatives, even on the Internet, are reasonable people who serve a valid purpose in society by cautioning against too rapid a rate of change or progress.
There are, unfortunately, extremists on both sides.
Which is why I think it would nice if some more of the moderate conservatives here would denounce this Gary Ridgway in their midst.

 

[Geosurface]

I hadn't realized she killed herself and that's absolutely awful and tragic.

But should the law take that into account or just address what the boys did?

 

[Jaskalas]

Embarrass?

You mean rape and humiliate...

What evidence of her being penetrated (rape) was entered into the court? Granted it is a logical conclusion to suggest it was done to her, but without a hospital visit to administer a rape kit? The judicial system needs evidence. It cannot simply assume she was raped.

 

[thegimp03]

Steubenville involved fingering the drunk girl. In this case all we know about is the photo taking.

Wrong.

The two 16-year-old boys admitted in September to two felonies: digitally penetrating Audrie and possessing or controlling photos of her, sources told the newspaper. One of those boys also admitted to a third felony of possessing photos of another girl. The third teen, 17, admitted in December to the same two felonies plus three more, including possessing images of other girls. Counseling and community service were also ordered for all three boys.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...y-assaulting-saratoga-teen?source=most_viewed

 

[nehalem256]

And I'm saying that from the girl's perspective you're wrong.

Not only was she sexually assaulted, the evidence was passed around to her classmates.

So according to you if someone takes off your pants while you are passed out and takes pictures of your junk that is no different than raping you in the ass?

That is complete nonsense.

You do realize the girl killed herself because of this, right?

Of course I do. I doubt it was the first time that a teenage girl killed herself because she was embarrassed.

But there is a drastic difference between embarrassing someone and raping them.

 

[Jimzz]

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...-teen-girl-defendant-added-suit-girls-suicide

"sexually assaulted her digitally and with a foreign object while she lay drunk and unconscious at the party at her girlfriend's house in Saratoga."

 

[MrPickins]

So according to you if someone takes off your pants while you are passed out and takes pictures of your junk that is no different than raping you in the ass?

That is complete nonsense.

If the girl was so drunk she didn't remember the actual event, and only knows the effects of the aftermath, then yes.

Have a heart, FFS, and try to put yourself in the girls shoes. I thought conservatives were supposed to be compassionate.


How about you explain what punishment you feel her assaulters should have faced?

Also, please explain how you can look at yourself in the mirror after defending them like you have...

 

[nehalem256]

Wrong.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...y-assaulting-saratoga-teen?source=most_viewed

OKay, thanks. For providing actual information about what happened. Digitally penetrating is indeed more severe than mere photos.

 

[Jaskalas]

That does make it clear that the sentencing is far too lenient.

 

[Sonikku]

What sexual actions would you be talking about? Is there any evidence of sexual actions other than naked photos?

None. It's reaching a point where you can't slip an underage girl a drug and take her pants off without people getting all uppity about it. :\

 

[MrPickins]

None. It's reaching a point where you can't slip an underage girl a drug and take her pants off without people getting all uppity about it. :\

inorite?!?

 

[Geosurface]

When you guys get the straw manning out of your system maybe you can acknowledge the actual arguments nehalem has made?

 

[MrPickins]

When you guys get the straw manning out of your system maybe you can acknowledge the actual arguments nehalem has made?

Which is?

 

[Vic]

When you guys get the straw manning out of your system maybe you can acknowledge the actual arguments nehalem has made?

Like that she had it coming? No woman, especially an underage girl, ever has it coming. Ever. Period.

Or was it his argument that boys will be boys and that's the traditional American way? Well don't forget that the traditional American way also involved those boys sucking off the barrel of a shotgun, and sometimes nobody wanted a new in-law.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Which is?

That a man should be able to stick his penis in a toaster without any legal consequences.

 

[MrPickins]

That a man should be able to stick his penis in a toaster without any legal consequences.

I'm pretty sure there aren't any legal consequences at this time, but there may be serious physical consequences, depending on whether it's plugged in or not.

 

[nehalem256]

Like that she had it coming? No woman, especially an underage girl, ever has it coming. Ever. Period.

Or was it his argument that boys will be boys and that's the traditional American way? Well don't forget that the traditional American way also involved those boys sucking off the barrel of a shotgun, and sometimes nobody wanted a new in-law.

Well lets see

(1) If you make bad choices, bad things are more likely to happen to you. Maybe we should teach teenage girls to make good choices. You know like how we teach young children not to get into the van of the creepy guy offering them candy. Or is that supporting pedophile culture now?

(2) Why is there an inability to distinguish between rape and lesser forms of inappropriate sexual behavior?

(3) Why does the media write articles that distort what actually happened. Making what in truth is probably a girl getting so wasted she passes out seem like she had a few sips of beer and then took a nap.

 

[dainthomas]

Well lets see

(1) If you make bad choices, bad things are more likely to happen to you. Maybe we should teach teenage girls to make good choices.

Moar blame the victim.

Or even better, we teach boys AND girls to make good choices. You know, like how assaulting people = bad. Or maybe she was asking for it because she was passed out.

 

[SagaLore]

The question is what is she a victim of?

Just a wild guess but I think assault of sexual nature.

 

[zinfamous]

Could you please just once NOT take the side of rapists on this forum?

seriously. what a sub-human piece of filth.

 

[MrPickins]

Well lets see

(1) If you make bad choices, bad things are more likely to happen to you. Maybe we should teach teenage girls to make good choices. You know like how we teach young children not to get into the van of the creepy guy offering them candy. Or is that supporting pedophile culture now?

Maybe you've missed all the PSA's warning girls about being date raped and how to avoid it?

You're blaming the victim. Would you blame the child who gets into a stranger's van? Lord knows they had it coming...

Just because a girl does a dumb thing doesn't make it ok to take advantage of her.

(2) Why is there an inability to distinguish between rape and lesser forms of inappropriate sexual behavior?

I'm not sure what you're referring to, please explain.

(3) Why does the media write articles that distort what actually happened. Making what in truth is probably a girl getting so wasted she passes out seem like she had a few sips of beer and then took a nap.

The girl was drunk enough to not wake up as she was stripped and violated. Which is exactly what was reported in the article.


I ask again, how can you look at yourself after defending the actions of these sick individuals?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Way to lenient. I would accept all the way up to public hanging.