2nd Stimulus Bipartisan Bill Introduced

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ponyo

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Additionally, it's probably worth emphasizing that the covid relief package was only a part of the larger omnibus spending bill. (Which needed to be passed. This would be a terrible time for a government shutdown.) It's not actually accurate to say that the foreign aid was part of the covid relief package, for example. Here's a breakdown of what was *actually* part of that one section of the larger spending bill:

Included in the $1.4 trillion omnibus bill was 2 year extension of the 26% solar panel/roof tax incentive. It was set to drop down to 22% next year and then expire to 0% in 2022. Now the federal tax credit will remain at 26% for 2021 and 2022 before dropping down to 22% in 2023. I'm very happy about this.
 

K1052

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House GOP blocked 2K checks as expected.

Shutting down the government and collapsing Covid Relief while you golf in FL is an interesting political choice.
 
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Wreckem

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House GOP blocked 2K checks as expected.

Shutting down the government and collapsing Covid Relief while you golf in FL is an interesting political choice.

I get a feeling Trump isn’t going to veto it. He’s just gonna let it die by not signing it by the end of the current Congress.

He just wants chaos and trying to do as much destruction as he can on his way out.
 

K1052

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I get a feeling Trump isn’t going to veto it. He’s just gonna let it die by not signing it by the end of the current Congress.

He just wants chaos and trying to do as much destruction as he can on his way out.

But I'm told Trump cares about real Mericans and not his own feelings.
 
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I get a feeling Trump isn’t going to veto it. He’s just gonna let it die by not signing it by the end of the current Congress.

He just wants chaos and trying to do as much destruction as he can on his way out.

Thats the choice of congress, not Trumps. If they stay in session for 10 days it becomes law regardless of his signature.
 

hal2kilo

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I get a feeling Trump isn’t going to veto it. He’s just gonna let it die by not signing it by the end of the current Congress.

He just wants chaos and trying to do as much destruction as he can on his way out.
Well everyone's been mean to him, and are not showing limitless fealty, so we all must be punished severely. Merry Fn Christmas.
 
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$10k to every human adult is....a shit load of salaries that literally don't have to be paid for up to 3 months in probably, in reality, like 99% of homes. because people that make way more than that (hell, $10k, untaxed, can essentially keep any family alive in any major city in this country, CoL included, for at least 2 months. Anyone that doesn't believe that, simply has no fucking clue how people live and actually, how you can pretty quickly figure out how to live on even half that for hell, Manhattan, even a month. $5k) are already good. Literally, they are good to go. And yes, that means mortgages get paid. expenses that people have: yes, it can be done pretty fucking easily if, for 2 fricking months, people just learn to live like humans again. Stop being dicks. Chill and swallow the pill and ride this shit out for 2 hard months. That's all we FUCKING NEEDED TO DO back in April, assholes. And now here we are. It's been an entire, fucking, year. and the only option, as promised back in February, if you assholes didn't do it right the first time, EVERYTHING was going to be FUCKING WORSE.

alright, off to play some warhammer.

Oh which Warhammer?
 

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Thats the choice of congress, not Trumps. If they stay in session for 10 days it becomes law regardless of his signature.
Someone failed Govt 101.

Trump has 10 days not counting Sundays from the time the bill is officially enrolled and sent to him. This has not happened yet. It was supposed to be officially enrolled today or tomorrow. So he has 10 days from tomorrow, not counting Sundays. This means if he doesn’t sign it becomes a pocket veto because the 10 days runs out after the last day of the current congress. There is no holding open the current session of Congress via pro forma sessions. The current Congress recesses for good And ends the day before new members are sworn in. The new congress is sworn in on day one of the new congress. All bills and legislation not passed or signed into law have to start all over again. This is essentially the only time Congress is in recess. It happens every two years.

If Trump does not sign the budget and stimulus bill by the time the current session adjourns on Jan. 2 the bill does not become law as it then becomes a pocket veto.

Edit: Looks like it was officially enrolled today. Doesn’t change anything as the 10th day is Jan 4, the day after the new Congress starts.
 
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Someone failed Govt 101.

Trump has 10 days not counting Sundays from the time the bill is officially enrolled and sent to him. This has not happened yet. It was supposed to be officially enrolled today or tomorrow. So he has 10 days from tomorrow, not counting Sundays. This means if he doesn’t sign it becomes a pocket veto because the 10 days runs out after the last day of the current congress. There is no holding open the current session of Congress via pro forma sessions. The current Congress recesses for good And ends the day before new members are sworn in. The new congress is sworn in on day one of the new congress. All bills and legislation not passed or signed into law have to start all over again. This is essentially the only time Congress is in recess. It happens every two years.

If Trump does not sign the budget and stimulus bill by the time the current session adjourns on Jan. 2 the bill does not become law as it then becomes a pocket veto.

Edit: Looks like it was officially enrolled today. Doesn’t change anything as the 10th day is Jan 4, the day after the new Congress starts.
Do you think he ever gets tired of being wrong?
 

ch33zw1z

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Someone failed Govt 101.

Trump has 10 days not counting Sundays from the time the bill is officially enrolled and sent to him. This has not happened yet. It was supposed to be officially enrolled today or tomorrow. So he has 10 days from tomorrow, not counting Sundays. This means if he doesn’t sign it becomes a pocket veto because the 10 days runs out after the last day of the current congress. There is no holding open the current session of Congress via pro forma sessions. The current Congress recesses for good And ends the day before new members are sworn in. The new congress is sworn in on day one of the new congress. All bills and legislation not passed or signed into law have to start all over again. This is essentially the only time Congress is in recess. It happens every two years.

If Trump does not sign the budget and stimulus bill by the time the current session adjourns on Jan. 2 the bill does not become law as it then becomes a pocket veto.

Edit: Looks like it was officially enrolled today. Doesn’t change anything as the 10th day is Jan 4, the day after the new Congress starts.

Fwiw, not everyone even had government (civics) classes. I think it should be part of the core curriculum.
 

Ajay

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Fwiw, not everyone even had government (civics) classes. I think it should be part of the core curriculum.
^This. I never had a civics class. We covered some of this in US history in HS, thankfully. I went to a top school in the state at the time, it just wasn't a required element of the curriculum.
I've educated myself better on the Constitution as an adult, but not on all the minutia like this.
 

Meghan54

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Of course I'm way old, but when I was in 8th grade back around the Cretaceous Age, we had a specific Civics course required. Not a U.S. history course with civics grafted into it, but a specific course on Civics and Am. Govt.
 

hal2kilo

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Of course I'm way old, but when I was in 8th grade back around the Cretaceous Age, we had a specific Civics course required. Not a U.S. history course with civics grafted into it, but a specific course on Civics and Am. Govt.
It was a required credit to take it to be able to graduate high school in our system. Of course who has Virginia history classes in the 4th grade which is basically, a lot of the history of our country, and has follow ups in Junior High School.
 

brycejones

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AP Government but that was strictly optional when I was in HS. US History was were the required education ended.
 

ch33zw1z

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^This. I never had a civics class. We covered some of this in US history in HS, thankfully. I went to a top school in the state at the time, it just wasn't a required element of the curriculum.
I've educated myself better on the Constitution as an adult, but not on all the minutia like this.

Kinda same here, I just didn't really start learning about it until about 2010. I really only know the basics. I read a lot of stuff here then head to wiki also.

And psychology.

Sure, I think that's more useful in day to day stuff, but also can be learned when a bit older IMO, and Government should start in middle school
 

cytg111

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Sure, I think that's more useful in day to day stuff, but also can be learned when a bit older IMO, and Government should start in middle school

I think a major part of the daily people on people friction(no pun), is because we are left to our own devices trying to figure this neo cortex thing out, maybe specially in context of our social evolution. If we started out learning some basics of the hardware we are running upstairs, I think we would manage each other much better.
 

ch33zw1z

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I think a major part of the daily people on people friction(no pun), is because we are left to our own devices trying to figure this neo cortex thing out, maybe specially in context of our social evolution. If we started out learning some basics of the hardware we are running upstairs, I think we would manage each other much better.

I agree with you, I think our difference of opinion is when to start teaching the two topics.
 
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