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26001 pound truck vs guy on a bicyle

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Originally posted by: Safeway


It's in the law book. Just like a moped with a maximum speed of 30 mph is allowed on the interstate highway system, with a speed limit of 60 mph.

And to be fair, I usually pull 20 to 25 mph on surface streets, which is pretty close to the 30 or 35 limit. And need I remind you, the speed LIMIT is the maximum allowable speed.

cough, bullshit, cough cough...
 
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I hate bikers who get all dressed up in their spandex-dick-showing suits when they go biking. They wear sponsors and such, like it's the Tour de France. When I drive by them I usually roll my window down and yell something like, "Live strong asshole."

Yep. And when they aren't running red lights, they try to avoid putting their feet down on the ground trying to balance themselves, going around in circles at the red light.
 
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I hate bikers who get all dressed up in their spandex-dick-showing suits when they go biking. They wear sponsors and such, like it's the Tour de France. When I drive by them I usually roll my window down and yell something like, "Live strong asshole."

You hate people who take their exercise seriously?
 
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: skace
Ok, I have one question after reading this thread. How the fuck can a bicycle be a considered a road worthy vehicle when it can't follow the most basic rule of the road: the speed limit. Seriously? Speed differences between vehicles is one of the most dangerous situations on the road. So I refuse to classify a bicycle as road worthy. It may be sharing the side of the road, but it certainly can't handle a lane.

It's in the law book. Just like a moped with a maximum speed of 30 mph is allowed on the interstate highway system, with a speed limit of 60 mph.

And to be fair, I usually pull 20 to 25 mph on surface streets, which is pretty close to the 30 or 35 limit. And need I remind you, the speed LIMIT is the maximum allowable speed.

Link? Tried to google it but couldn't find anything..

In MD(and I imagine every other state), and vehicle has to meet a certain horsepower requirement(50?) to ride on the interstate system. I'm guessing it's a federal law since it's a national system.

I highly doubt there's any chance a moped going 30mph is allowed on a highway where people are going 70-80mph..
 
Originally posted by: Safeway
You are the fucking moron. It is illegal to ride on sidewalks you piece of shit motorist.

Bicycles are afforded equal lane usage rights. Learn to respect the law fucker.

obviously safeway is a moron.

I would much rather get risk getting a 20doller fine by riding on the sidewalk, rather than getting pancaked by a 26,001 pounds of truck.

Amd while we are at it, some new roads have nice wide bike lanes. Why do these wankers feel the need to ride on the very right edge of the bike lane, so you have to edge around them.

Also, why do they need to wear lycra? It does not make you go faster, you just expose your balls to the traffic. I wear surf shorts just fine on a bike.

Originally posted by: Safeway
See you fucking retard asshole mother fucker, it is illegal to ride on the fucking sidewalk. Bicycles are supposed to control the fucking lane they are in, or else, fucking scumbags like you will whiz past them and force them into the curb. You are in an air conditioned vehicle, they are pedaling their ass off. If anyone has time to wait around, it is your lazy, ignorant ass.

You are the type of person that bugs the fuck out of me while I am riding. You are the reason I always carry a gun with my while riding. I have been hit on purpose before by fucking expendable humans such as yourself. The next time a driver gets out of his vehicle at a stoplight to tell me what i should be doing instead of riding my bicycle on city streets, I am going to pull out my gun and point it square at his fucking face, imagining it was you, and watch the fucker piss and shit his pants, begging me to not end his worthless existence.

FUCK.

If i see you on the road, i will run you down. Then you will see why the empty side walk was the better option for you.

Also, do you pay registration on your bike? NO? GET THE FUCK OFF MY ROAD

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
 
I dont care if they are on a bike, I dont give them an inch. They cant go as fast, and they act as if they own the road. Go ride around a park, and stay out of 55mph roads.
 
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: skace
Ok, I have one question after reading this thread. How the fuck can a bicycle be a considered a road worthy vehicle when it can't follow the most basic rule of the road: the speed limit. Seriously? Speed differences between vehicles is one of the most dangerous situations on the road. So I refuse to classify a bicycle as road worthy. It may be sharing the side of the road, but it certainly can't handle a lane.

It's in the law book. Just like a moped with a maximum speed of 30 mph is allowed on the interstate highway system, with a speed limit of 60 mph.

And to be fair, I usually pull 20 to 25 mph on surface streets, which is pretty close to the 30 or 35 limit. And need I remind you, the speed LIMIT is the maximum allowable speed.

Going 20mph in the MIDDLE of the road when others are doing 40+, regardless of what fine print might be in the law saying that it might be okay to do so, is NOT safe by any means at all.

It's much safer than riding on the side of the road because idiots will drive by you with mere inches of space. I always ride in the middle of the road if it is too dangerous to ride on the side (no shoulder) but I will stay as far right as possible when it is safe to do so. The problem is most people don't realize it is possible for them to slow down until it is safe to pass. The 5 seconds they lost are apparently so important that it angers them enough to put people's lives in danger. As a biker and a driver, I get just as annoyed as everyone else when bikers don't follow the rules, but I am also aware that even though they might be in the wrong it is not worth the few seconds of my life I might waste being careful to put theirs in danger.
 
Originally posted by: Safeway
(A) less than 14 feet in width and does not have a designated bicycle lane adjacent to that lane; or

-- This is what you call a quantitative law. It is objective. It has an actual street width.

(B) too narrow for a bicycle and a motor vehicle to safely travel side by side.

-- This is what you call a qualitative law. It is subjective. Any lane in existence can be arguably too narrow.

I would be willing to bet that the (B) criteria is not actually subjective but based on a mix of subjective and the objective reasonable person standard. Rarely will the law allow a purely subjective law as it creates enforcement issues.
 
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: Safeway
You are the fucking moron. It is illegal to ride on sidewalks you piece of shit motorist.

Bicycles are afforded equal lane usage rights. Learn to respect the law fucker.

On the contrary - in Ohio (op's profile):

§ 4511.711. Driving upon sidewalk area.
No person shall drive any vehicle, other than a bicycle, upon a sidewalk or sidewalk area except upon a permanent or duly authorized temporary driveway.

Nothing in this section shall be construed as prohibiting local authorities from regulating the operation of bicycles within their respective jurisdictions, except that no local authority may require that bicycles be operated on sidewalks.

That not withstanding, the bike does have as much right to be on the road, especially a large multi-lane road as the OP describes which should have provided the OP ample room to pass the bicycle if everything was kosher.

However, it sounds like:

§ 4511.55. Riding bicycles; motorcycles abreast.
(A) Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable obeying all traffic rules applicable to vehicles and exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction.

This probably wasn't being followed.

You think law makers know what is best for a small sub-class of road users? No.

Wow, dude. In your first breath your entire argument was based on the law, and now that the law disagrees with you you're saying it isn't worth anything? Pick a side.
 
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Safeway
You are the fucking moron. It is illegal to ride on sidewalks you piece of shit motorist.

Bicycles are afforded equal lane usage rights. Learn to respect the law fucker.

obviously safeway is a moron.

I would much rather get risk getting a 20doller fine by riding on the sidewalk, rather than getting pancaked by a 26,001 pounds of truck.

Amd while we are at it, some new roads have nice wide bike lanes. Why do these wankers feel the need to ride on the very right edge of the bike lane, so you have to edge around them.

Also, why do they need to wear lycra? It does not make you go faster, you just expose your balls to the traffic. I wear surf shorts just fine on a bike.

Originally posted by: Safeway
See you fucking retard asshole mother fucker, it is illegal to ride on the fucking sidewalk. Bicycles are supposed to control the fucking lane they are in, or else, fucking scumbags like you will whiz past them and force them into the curb. You are in an air conditioned vehicle, they are pedaling their ass off. If anyone has time to wait around, it is your lazy, ignorant ass.

You are the type of person that bugs the fuck out of me while I am riding. You are the reason I always carry a gun with my while riding. I have been hit on purpose before by fucking expendable humans such as yourself. The next time a driver gets out of his vehicle at a stoplight to tell me what i should be doing instead of riding my bicycle on city streets, I am going to pull out my gun and point it square at his fucking face, imagining it was you, and watch the fucker piss and shit his pants, begging me to not end his worthless existence.

FUCK.

If i see you on the road, i will run you down. Then you will see why the empty side walk was the better option for you.

Also, do you pay registration on your bike? NO? GET THE FUCK OFF MY ROAD

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

You are rather stupid. There are several logical reasons to ride a bike on the road instead of a sidewalk, but even if there weren't, being an insensitive idiot (like you are in every other thread) doesn't help you prove your point. That picture is only funny to immature fuckwads. I know you are just stroking your e-penis but if you actually did decide to run-down a biker, I hope you have fun sitting in jail so you can think about how much of a moron that makes you. Killing someone over something so stupid is beyond, well, stupid.
 
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Safeway
You are the fucking moron. It is illegal to ride on sidewalks you piece of shit motorist.

Bicycles are afforded equal lane usage rights. Learn to respect the law fucker.

obviously safeway is a moron.

I would much rather get risk getting a 20doller fine by riding on the sidewalk, rather than getting pancaked by a 26,001 pounds of truck.

Amd while we are at it, some new roads have nice wide bike lanes. Why do these wankers feel the need to ride on the very right edge of the bike lane, so you have to edge around them.

Also, why do they need to wear lycra? It does not make you go faster, you just expose your balls to the traffic. I wear surf shorts just fine on a bike.

Originally posted by: Safeway
See you fucking retard asshole mother fucker, it is illegal to ride on the fucking sidewalk. Bicycles are supposed to control the fucking lane they are in, or else, fucking scumbags like you will whiz past them and force them into the curb. You are in an air conditioned vehicle, they are pedaling their ass off. If anyone has time to wait around, it is your lazy, ignorant ass.

You are the type of person that bugs the fuck out of me while I am riding. You are the reason I always carry a gun with my while riding. I have been hit on purpose before by fucking expendable humans such as yourself. The next time a driver gets out of his vehicle at a stoplight to tell me what i should be doing instead of riding my bicycle on city streets, I am going to pull out my gun and point it square at his fucking face, imagining it was you, and watch the fucker piss and shit his pants, begging me to not end his worthless existence.

FUCK.

If i see you on the road, i will run you down. Then you will see why the empty side walk was the better option for you.

Also, do you pay registration on your bike? NO? GET THE FUCK OFF MY ROAD

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

You are rather stupid. There are several logical reasons to ride a bike on the road instead of a sidewalk, but even if there weren't, being an insensitive idiot (like you are in every other thread) doesn't help you prove your point. That picture is only funny to immature fuckwads. I know you are just stroking your e-penis but if you actually did decide to run-down a biker, I hope you have fun sitting in jail so you can think about how much of a moron that makes you. Killing someone over something so stupid is beyond, well, stupid.

Dont play chicken with traffic and you wont get hurt... simple as that
 
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Safeway
You are the fucking moron. It is illegal to ride on sidewalks you piece of shit motorist.

Bicycles are afforded equal lane usage rights. Learn to respect the law fucker.

obviously safeway is a moron.

I would much rather get risk getting a 20doller fine by riding on the sidewalk, rather than getting pancaked by a 26,001 pounds of truck.

Amd while we are at it, some new roads have nice wide bike lanes. Why do these wankers feel the need to ride on the very right edge of the bike lane, so you have to edge around them.

Also, why do they need to wear lycra? It does not make you go faster, you just expose your balls to the traffic. I wear surf shorts just fine on a bike.

Originally posted by: Safeway
See you fucking retard asshole mother fucker, it is illegal to ride on the fucking sidewalk. Bicycles are supposed to control the fucking lane they are in, or else, fucking scumbags like you will whiz past them and force them into the curb. You are in an air conditioned vehicle, they are pedaling their ass off. If anyone has time to wait around, it is your lazy, ignorant ass.

You are the type of person that bugs the fuck out of me while I am riding. You are the reason I always carry a gun with my while riding. I have been hit on purpose before by fucking expendable humans such as yourself. The next time a driver gets out of his vehicle at a stoplight to tell me what i should be doing instead of riding my bicycle on city streets, I am going to pull out my gun and point it square at his fucking face, imagining it was you, and watch the fucker piss and shit his pants, begging me to not end his worthless existence.

FUCK.

If i see you on the road, i will run you down. Then you will see why the empty side walk was the better option for you.

Also, do you pay registration on your bike? NO? GET THE FUCK OFF MY ROAD

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

You are rather stupid. There are several logical reasons to ride a bike on the road instead of a sidewalk, but even if there weren't, being an insensitive idiot (like you are in every other thread) doesn't help you prove your point. That picture is only funny to immature fuckwads. I know you are just stroking your e-penis but if you actually did decide to run-down a biker, I hope you have fun sitting in jail so you can think about how much of a moron that makes you. Killing someone over something so stupid is beyond, well, stupid.

Safeway disagrees with you, since he's willing to point a gun at someone who confronts him about taking up a lane.
 
The person that hit the group of riders should be killed. People that think that is cool should be killed.

And Lycra is very important on long, consistent rides. It is all about comfort and anti-chaffing.
 
Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Dont play chicken with traffic and you wont get hurt... simple as that

I expected something idiotic from you, but this just doesn't even make sense. Riding in the lane is not equivalent to playing chicken in any sense of the word.
 
Originally posted by: arcenite

Safeway disagrees with you, since he's willing to point a gun at someone who confronts him about taking up a lane.

I don't care if Safeway disagrees with me, but just for the record you seem to be sensationalizing something he said.
 
Originally posted by: arcenite
Safeway disagrees with you, since he's willing to point a gun at someone who confronts him about taking up a lane.

Never said I would kill them, and never said it was merely a confrontation.

I said that I would pull my gun on someone that would be aggressive and stupid enough to get out of his vehicle and inform me what type of violent acts he wanted to commit while walking towards me.

That is what you call immediate apprehension and fear of injury. I am more than justified in brandishing my weapon and using it if necessary.
 
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: arcenite
Safeway disagrees with you, since he's willing to point a gun at someone who confronts him about taking up a lane.

Never said I would kill them, and never said it was merely a confrontation.

I said that I would pull my gun on someone that would be aggressive and stupid enough to get out of his vehicle and inform me what type of violent acts he wanted to commit while walking towards me.

That is what you call immediate apprehension and fear of injury. I am more than justified in brandishing my weapon and using it if necessary.

I thought the rule of guns was, you never pointed unless you planned on using it?
 
You guys are idiots for not knowing bicyclist laws/rights. They should NOT want or have to use the sidewalks.
 
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