2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

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dnuggett

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they weren't talking to partners about it unless it was about an AMD64 based 4000+ you misunderstood what you read try deep breathing

Once again I am amazed by yet ANOTHER moronic comment. Where did I say I was talking about a Socket A? You have assumed and typed it in another post I repsonded to, but I never said Socket A. If you pay attention at all you know it's a 64, but thanks for stating the obvious. ;) Go ahead and respond to this post w/ another moronic comment, I however will not be returning the favor, it is such a waste of time. But at least it's good for a laugh. Can't wait to see what you come up w/ next. :music:
 

edplayer

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oh yea, we all believe that you were originally talking about AMD64 cause the first guy you responded to wasn't, you didn't make any mention of it till now and this thread is about Mobile Bartons.

 

edplayer

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy525
I think you got the right idea, I think at this point AMD's yeilds are quite good. heck I wouldn't doubt thier able to realse a 3600 or a 3800 CPU but don't want to hurt the sales of the A64 so all these great chips are just being binned as mobiles

happy birthday
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: Devistater
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the differance between a "Mobile" and a normal 2500+ barton? Does it just run cooler allowing a larger overclock? or?

The mobile Barton was designed to run cooler and with less power requirements for laptops. The byproduct is an OPGA socket Barton with a large vcore overhead for enthusiasts to put in their desktops to overclock.
 

Murse

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Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: Devistater
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the differance between a "Mobile" and a normal 2500+ barton? Does it just run cooler allowing a larger overclock? or?

The mobile Barton was designed to run cooler and with less power requirements for laptops. The byproduct is an OPGA socket Barton with a large vcore overhead for enthusiasts to put in their desktops to overclock.

And the multiplier is factory unlocked, so you don't just have to rely on the bus speed to overclock.
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: Murse
Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: Devistater
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the differance between a "Mobile" and a normal 2500+ barton? Does it just run cooler allowing a larger overclock? or?

The mobile Barton was designed to run cooler and with less power requirements for laptops. The byproduct is an OPGA socket Barton with a large vcore overhead for enthusiasts to put in their desktops to overclock.

And the multiplier is factory unlocked, so you don't just have to rely on the bus speed to overclock.

Correct. That's why it's important to have a motherboard that has access to the mutipliers and fsb, because it will be detected as an unknown cpu @ 6x100 600Mhz.

Otherwise, you'll have to do some bridge mods. :(
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: Murse
Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: Devistater
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the differance between a "Mobile" and a normal 2500+ barton? Does it just run cooler allowing a larger overclock? or?

The mobile Barton was designed to run cooler and with less power requirements for laptops. The byproduct is an OPGA socket Barton with a large vcore overhead for enthusiasts to put in their desktops to overclock.

And the multiplier is factory unlocked, so you don't just have to rely on the bus speed to overclock.

Correct. That's why it's important to have a motherboard that has access to the mutipliers and fsb, because it will be detected as an unknown cpu @ 6x100 600Mhz.

Otherwise, you'll have to do some bridge mods. :(

Would this mean that I could buy a chip and mess with multiplier settings with my old KT266A? Last I knew the recent "unlocked" AMD desktop chips were only noticed as unlocked by newer motherboards, mainly nForce2 and newer VIA KT mobos.

Would be nice to be able to just buy the chip and mess with multiplier settings (only have some old PC2700 and a KR7A) and see what I could get out of the chip before I'd invest in a nice nForce2 and some new RAM. I was definatley looking to holding off as long as possible (til then end of the year) and go with an AMD 64 or Prescott setup, but this looks too good and fun to pass up. Been too long since I've been able to tinker with some new desktop hardware, still sitting on a stubborn 1.47GHz Palomino and I can't really do anything to my new laptop in terms of some serious tweaking.
 

NuKe9

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Well I took the plunge on a 2400+. I also noticed they had some nice mobo's in the refurb section. $136 OTD and I came away with a 2400+ CPU and a A7N8X-Deluxe. Add another $20 for the accessory pack from Asus and I am set!! Thanks OP!

Tom
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: Murse
Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: Devistater
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the differance between a "Mobile" and a normal 2500+ barton? Does it just run cooler allowing a larger overclock? or?

The mobile Barton was designed to run cooler and with less power requirements for laptops. The byproduct is an OPGA socket Barton with a large vcore overhead for enthusiasts to put in their desktops to overclock.

And the multiplier is factory unlocked, so you don't just have to rely on the bus speed to overclock.

Correct. That's why it's important to have a motherboard that has access to the mutipliers and fsb, because it will be detected as an unknown cpu @ 6x100 600Mhz.

Otherwise, you'll have to do some bridge mods. :(

Would this mean that I could buy a chip and mess with multiplier settings with my old KT266A? Last I knew the recent "unlocked" AMD desktop chips were only noticed as unlocked by newer motherboards, mainly nForce2 and newer VIA KT mobos.

As long as you have a multi setting that you can change in the BIOS, it should work. But don't quote me on that. ;)
 

bunnyfubbles

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well usually all higher end AMD boards of the past few years would have the ability to mess with the multiplier, it's just that you'd need to mod the chips (Tbird and what not) to be able to pull it off.
 

manuts

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I just bought the 2400+ mobile and an nf7 2.0 and when i boot up it show "unknown cpu type" 800mhz. Why is it showing that? shouldn't it be 1.80ghz? I am not trying to overclock just trying to get the default speed. Any help would be appreciated. TIA
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: manuts
I just bought the 2400+ mobile and an nf7 2.0 and when i boot up it show "unknown cpu type" 800mhz. Why is it showing that? shouldn't it be 1.80ghz? I am not trying to overclock just trying to get the default speed. Any help would be appreciated. TIA

The board is setting your multiplier to 6.0x. I think some of the boards do this with the mobile chips and default to the lowest multiplier. Currently, you're getting 6x133=800mhz, which is tad bit lower than the chip's stock speed. :Q

The default speed of the 2400-M is 1.8ghz running on a 133 FSB. Therefore, the correct multiplier should be 1800/133 = 13.5. You just need to go into the BIOS and raise the multiplier up from 6.0 to 13.5x. Also, make sure the chip voltage is set correctly at 1.45v.
 

smokedturkey

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no need to mod anything, you can make voltage and multiplier and yes, even fsb changes from windows with the right programs. ;o)
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
The default speed of the 2400-M is 1.8ghz running on a 133 FSB. Therefore, the correct multiplier should be 1800/133 = 13.5. You just need to go into the BIOS and raise the multiplier up from 6.0 to 13.5x. Also, make sure the chip voltage is set correctly at 1.45v.

Excuse the total noob question (don't have mine working yet), but what multipliers (range) are available on the NF7 (v2)? I also have the 2400-M.
 

BlueWeasel

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I don't have a NF7 board, but I think the multipliers range from 6 to 22 in the BIOS. However, most of the ones above 13/14 aren't really usable. If you're going to be overclocking, the ones you'll probably use will be 10-12.5.
 

Zim

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Can anyone recommend a reasonablly priced quiet fan for one of these. I've had a look thru NewEgg's stock and they seem to be missing a lot of the key heatsinks. I've been looking at this heatsink performance list.
 

zerodeefex

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I just got an arctic cooling copper silent 2L at xoxide (its like $13 on sale) and I like it. Of course I have it on my 1800+, but I can run just fine at the slowest of 3 settings, all of them quiet. The only review I read on it claims to have it running on the fastest setting on a 1700+ overclocked a good 575 mhz and it ran around 45 degrees under load. I would assume it could handle one of these, but you might want to read more.

That's just my $0.02
 

Zim

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I opted for the TI-V77L for $9. Only rated to 2600+ but I reckon it can handle more.
 

TrentSteel

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I think I'm going to pick up a mobile 2400+ to replace my locked Barton 2500+, which has been nothing but a disappointment and a very tedious overclocker. It runs so hot that I need to get a new HSF, and since I'm looking to spend about $40 or so on the HSF, I might as well shell out another $37 for something that will very hopefully run cooler.

Makes sense, right?
 

WebDude

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I'm in for a 2400+, on an NF7-S. Had a hard time deciding on the RAM, but finally went with Mushkin PC3700 Level I. Should give me decent headroom for oc'ing.