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DaTT

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I used to get cluster headakes. The pain was UNBELIEVABLE.

However, if you compared it to whamming a finger really hard with a hammer, no comparisons, the hammer whack hurt more. Fortunately, the pain goes away if you put the hammer away, not the case for the cluster headaches.

I feel for you. I get migraines and they put me out of commission for the duration.
 

DaTT

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I thought it was bad gas, but it didn't go away. Then it got so sharp I actually fell to my knees. I'm pain free now with the drugs (percocet and flowmax).

I just wish it would pass already so I can stop living in this haze.

Aren't percocet's great? I currently take them for chronic arm pain which has yet to be properly diagnosed. I finally see a specialist on this Thursday.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Aren't percocet's great? I currently take them for chronic arm pain which has yet to be properly diagnosed. I finally see a specialist on this Thursday.

Yea, the first stuff I was prescribed for migraines was fioricet and that didn't work any better than straight Tylenol for me, but the 650/10 mg dose of Percocet gave me decent relief. Also was great after my sinus surgery. I only let the dose lapse one time while I was recovering that shit was scary painful.
 
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apac

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Sweet mother of mercy just looking at that makes my penis scream.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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On the pain scale only one thing is higher. Giving birth.

That's not true. When women who have had both kidney stones and been through labor were asked kidney stones were considered far worse of the two. I remember sitting in the ER with a sympathetic nurse who knew I was trying to "man up" and not whine, but the pain showed through anyway. She said she had twins and kidney stones. Her opinion is that she'd take delivering them any day over the stones.
 

Dedpuhl

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I suffered through a bout of kidney stones earlier this year. It was by far the worst pain I've ever experienced.
 

moshquerade

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That's not true. When women who have had both kidney stones and been through labor were asked kidney stones were considered far worse of the two. I remember sitting in the ER with a sympathetic nurse who knew I was trying to "man up" and not whine, but the pain showed through anyway. She said she had twins and kidney stones. Her opinion is that she'd take delivering them any day over the stones.
And I've heard women say that childbirth was easy compared to having a root canal.

I wonder what those women would say about a kidney stone...


How do you prevent getting a kidney stone anyway? By staying hydrated?
 

SirStev0

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Mine are 5-325, but he told me I cam take up to 3 at a time. I'm currently doing 2 at a time. I think I just passed the stone though. There was a tiny brown spot on the screen and now I feel a lot better. I'm going to try to skip the next pain dose.


325 is the amount of Tylenol in the Percs. You need to make sure your total dose is no more than 4000mg in a 24 hour period.

That usually mean two every four - six hours. You have the 325's which means your doc wanted to give you a little wiggle room because the usually dose contains 500 mg of Tylenol.

In case you were wondering... percs and vics contain tylenol for inflammation but mostly because that way we can control how much people take in a day. Take a few too many and enjoy wrecking you're liver. Its the same reason why Lomotil (an opioid antidiarrhea) contains atropine.
The FDA keeps going back and forth on whether they should increase the amount of Tylenol or decrease it depending on the day and who's money it will get them.
 

SirStev0

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And I've heard women say that childbirth was easy compared to having a root canal.

I wonder what those women would say about a kidney stone...


How do you prevent getting a kidney stone anyway? By staying hydrated?
Lots of fluids, low acidic diet, and lemonade.

Citrate can bind up with Ca++ in the Urine and form benign Calcium Citrate when the urine has a high concentration of Citric Acid. However if Calcium has a chance, it will bind to Oxalate like a boss. Forming horrible death stones.
 

purbeast0

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i passed one last year and didn't know i even had one until i went and described it to the doctor in the ER later that night.

the weekend before i had done some heavy drinking and was drinking 3 days in a row, then monday and tuesday it was ridiculously hot in my gym with no AC running. tuesday I did legs which usually makes my lower back somewhat sore, so tuesday night i was having sore lower back issues a tad more than normal and thought nothing of it.

then that night i woke up having to pee badly, but when i peed i did not pee much. then when i woke up for work same thing. then throughout the whole day i kept feeling like i had to pee real bad like 30 mins after i went, and when i would go very little would come out.

that afternoon i ended up peeing and noticed at the end of my stream something came out. i was kind of freaked out but whatever. so next time i pee'd when i got home from work, i noticed a little blood at the end of my stream. so i freaked out and called my step mom (my dad was a Urologist) and asked her what to do, then she called one of my dads friends who is also a urologist and I met him at the emergency room.

after doing a buncha tests and stuff he concluded nothing was really wrong, and from what i explained it was probably a kidney stone passing and it ripped the inside of my tubes on the way out, causing bleeding when i peed.

after a day or two the bleeding and urge to pee feeling stopped, and i went to the doc 2 weeks later (after i got back from a vacation) and had no blood in my urine.

since then i drink TONS more water, especially while at the gym. i think i built one up because i was dehydrated, and i also found out after this that my dad got his first kidney stone when he was 26 - i was 28 at the time.
 

beach2nd

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Ugh, hope it passes soon. I had one a couple years ago and the memory is so vivid I still chug water constantly. If its not clear I know I'm not drinking enough.
 

Raizinman

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I have also had them many times and been to the ER most of the times too. Here are a few remedies that you can try.

Drink lots of natural lemonaid. The citric acid will tend to disolve the stone. I have been drinking lemonaid about 2 or 3 big glasses a week. I have yet to have another stone.

Get an ultrasound. They can detect if you have further stones in your Kidney. I happen to have a hive of stones. I already know that at some point in the future they will fall.

Remember that the doctor can vibrate the stone from outside your body and disolve it.
 

moshquerade

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Lots of fluids, low acidic diet, and lemonade.

Citrate can bind up with Ca++ in the Urine and form benign Calcium Citrate when the urine has a high concentration of Citric Acid. However if Calcium has a chance, it will bind to Oxalate like a boss. Forming horrible death stones.
Seriously, lemonade = lemons = citric acid, and you are saying go the low acidic route? :\
 

MetalMat

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Aren't percocet's great? I currently take them for chronic arm pain which has yet to be properly diagnosed. I finally see a specialist on this Thursday.

I love popping a few percs when I have them on a night out on the town. Wacky times, wacky times....


Oh and my dad had some kidney stone issues. Watching him writhe in pain on the ground while realizing there was nothing I could do about it was pretty sad. I have had none so far *knock on wood*
 
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Squisher

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That is far from the biggest or most painful one I've passed. The extreme pain comes from the plugging of the ureters going from the kidney to the bladder. They are extremely small and the movement of the stone can be glacial. As a secondary issue comes trying to pass the stone from the bladder out your urethra (out your penis). Usually the the stone will kinda float in your bladder and only enter your urethra at the end of your stream. This will usually give you the pissing razor blades feel right at the end of your stream. Also, the stone might have an small issue making the turn down by your scrotum (prostate).

There is one great thing you can do when the pain starts and that is drink water or any liquid until you're going to the bathroom every 1/2 hour. Drown yourself. If you do that there is a good chance the passing will be painless.
 

Mo0o

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325 is the amount of Tylenol in the Percs. You need to make sure your total dose is no more than 4000mg in a 24 hour period.

That usually mean two every four - six hours. You have the 325's which means your doc wanted to give you a little wiggle room because the usually dose contains 500 mg of Tylenol.

In case you were wondering... percs and vics contain tylenol for inflammation but mostly because that way we can control how much people take in a day. Take a few too many and enjoy wrecking you're liver. Its the same reason why Lomotil (an opioid antidiarrhea) contains atropine.
The FDA keeps going back and forth on whether they should increase the amount of Tylenol or decrease it depending on the day and who's money it will get them.

Incorrect. Tylenol has almost no antiinflammatory properties. But the pain relief it provides synergizes with opiates so a patient requires less opioid medication to achieve the same amount of pain relief. And it doesnt really help that much with controlling people's drug habits and is much less likely to be used in a patient with a history of opioid dependence or abuse. Patients who are on chronic opioid pain therapy usually arent not prescribed percocet precisely because of the risk of tylenol overdose. Patients who only need it for a very short period of time are not very likely to get hooked so its a nonissue anyways.

Lomotil has atropine because it's an anticholinergic, which suppresses your parasympathetic drive, to slow gut motility. The fact that it forces you to take less is just a secondary benefit.

More med school needed
 

spidey07

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That is far from the biggest or most painful one I've passed. The extreme pain comes from the plugging of the ureters going from the kidney to the bladder. They are extremely small and the movement of the stone can be glacial. As a secondary issue comes trying to pass the stone from the bladder out your urethra (out your penis). Usually the the stone will kinda float in your bladder and only enter your urethra at the end of your stream. This will usually give you the pissing razor blades feel right at the end of your stream. Also, the stone might have an small issue making the turn down by your scrotum (prostate).

There is one great thing you can do when the pain starts and that is drink water or any liquid until you're going to the bathroom every 1/2 hour. Drown yourself. If you do that there is a good chance the passing will be painless.

I gave birth and had cluster headaches AND a root canal all at the same time!

Squisher - Yeah, I pissed out a kidney stone bigger than a 22 bullet with thousands of razors, is that all you got?
/smugface