2020-2021 Coup Watch Thread

[Starbuck1975]

We all know that when Trump attempts to overturn the election and the Constitution, and seize power by force, that you'll be here blaming liberals for it.

No, I will be on the streets resisting any such attempt, because I gave an oath to the Constitution. I won’t blame liberals, just you. You can make up for it by running chicken sandwiches to the front lines.

 

[zinfamous]

Trump lost - Not Biden.

You only worry about raiding walmarts and setting buildings on fire when lefties lose (or a random sporting event occurs) silly.

huh? rightwingers are the ones that commit all the violence and vandalism. Not sure what you are going on a bout. I mean, you know that, right? the vast, vast majority of violent instigators and vandals arrested over the summer were right-wing Trump supporters.

Even the DOJ knows that--it's public information, dude. You can be informed of this truth, but you have to want it. Do you want to be informed, or not?

 

[zinfamous]

I'm amazed that, even after losing his election by a margin larger than his 2016 win, the Repugs are still sticking by the orange idiot and weasel-wording their support for his bullshit. They'll do everything in their power to not cross him, it's pathetic.

They know that he has swallowed the brains of some 80% of what they thought was their base. They don't really have a choice, well, because they are blind, powerhungry immoral hucksters that haven't had a fucking idea in nearly 4 decades...so they just cower like little bitches and milk the base for support, rather than provide ideas that actually inspire and you know, lead them.

They know that if they cross Trump Inc, they are likely to be 3rd partied in 2024 by a wave of sociopathic Trump retards.

 

[zinfamous]

A coup assumes Trump has the military at his side. These undersecretary and staff positions are disruptive, but I don’t see any scenario where a commanding general mobilizes his entire division to secure the White House and instill martial law in support of Trump. Even if one tried, I can’t see many soldiers following.

A coup doesn't have to involve the military. ...but a military can certainly stop one, if necessary.

 

[fskimospy]

I’m old enough to remember when conservatives were outraged by Hillary Clinton waiting a day to concede an election she lost much more narrowly and then despite her concession complained for four years that liberals wouldn’t accept the results of elections.

Republicans, you lost. By a lot. Time to be adults and accept it.

 

[trenchfoot]

So when will Trump skulk off into the night, set up shop in some country where he can't be extradited and form up a nation in exile, running his "People's Democratic Republic of America" (or some other lame ass misnomer) from there, all financed and strategically supported by his good friends in the Kremlin and domestically operated in theater by an alliance of racists, religious fanatics and the base of the Repub Party that owed their undying allegiance to him. Of course, the Repubs in the legislature will be silent partners in these acts of treason, neither approving of nor disavowing the existence of Trump's Patriot Paramilitary Militia.

This fantasmic scenario seems more plausible than not given Trump's intransigence and paranoid state of mind. IMO, he'd do it if he could.

 

[pmv]

Hundred percent chance he gets assassinated if he tries a force a coup. Americans are crazy and armed. Don't forget the guy who shot up Steve scalise at a ballgame. Not to mention what would happen with political sanctions from the rest of the westernized world and etc. US has ties everywhere and you'd see severing of those ties of a dictator is installed. I have to believe that in general people understand a coup is not good for the US in any sense.

Depends how far it's perceived as a 'coup', as opposed to just an expansion of the sort of legal shenanigans that worked in 2000. The US electoral and political system is so ramshackle and badly-designed that there's a huge middle-ground between a democratic election and a full-on Pinochet style coup.

It really is a _ridiculous_ system. Seems as if increasingly the right see the lack of democracy in it as a feature rather than a bug. Hence the repeated refrains about how 'the US is not a democracy' (and that that's a good thing).

Even the Nazis took over Germany through 'constitutional' means. Their elites hated democracy too. Constitutions have a lot of 'give'.

Currently looks, though, as if Trump is cos-playing a coup-plot, rather than genuinely planning one. It's like a weird consolation-fantasy he's engaging in, which he'll abandon at the last moment.

 

[pmv]

I mean, this is probably correct

'Downright dangerous': Democrats' alarm as Trump stacks Pentagon with loyalists

Fears that appointment of extreme Republican partisans could endanger or politicise operation of defense department

www.theguardian.com

Even though the bit

defence experts argued there was little the new Trump appointees could do to use their positions to the president’s advantage, given the firm refusal of the uniformed armed services to get involved in domestic politics.

Is distressingly reminiscent of Pablo Neruda (poet and Allende's ambassador to France at the time) declaring “As for our army, we love it. It is the people in uniform.” just before Pinochet's coup.

The bit that explains

one possible, more prosaic, reason for the reshuffle, could be to pad the résumés of partisan officials to help smooth confirmation hearings next time Republicans are in office.

“There’s an opportunity to give someone a credential of a leadership position,” he said. “Now they could at least claim: ‘Hey look, I had this title, even if only briefly, in the Trump administration.’”

Seems, reassuringly, entirely plausible.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

huh? rightwingers are the ones that commit all the violence and vandalism. Not sure what you are going on a bout. I mean, you know that, right? the vast, vast majority of violent instigators and vandals arrested over the summer were right-wing Trump supporters.

Even the DOJ knows that--it's public information, dude. You can be informed of this truth, but you have to want it. Do you want to be informed, or not?

O RLY?


Give me a count of buildings burned down by righties vs. lefties?

 

[woolfe9998]

O RLY?


Give me a count of buildings burned down by righties vs. lefties?

Give me an account of people killed by righties vs. lefties.

 

[sactoking]

The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, for one. Though I guess you could quibble as to whether that was actually "burned" down.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Give me an account of people killed by righties vs. lefties.

DUHvert! Quick!

 

[Vic]

DUHvert! Quick!

Your troll game continues to be weak. Christchurch. Charlottesville. Charleston. Oklahoma City. And my 2a is waiting for you. If necessary.

 

[Vic]

The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, for one. Though I guess you could quibble as to whether that was actually "burned" down.

Someonesdipshit would troll that quibble.

 

[Zorba]

Your troll game continues to be weak. Christchurch. Charlottesville. Charleston. Oklahoma City. And my 2a is waiting for you. If necessary.

Don't forget Atlanta Olympics, and dozens of abortion clinics.

 

[MrPickins]

O RLY?


Give me a count of buildings burned down by righties vs. lefties?

How about shot at?

'Boogaloo Bois' member charged in connection to shooting at MN police station

Prosecutors say Ivan Harrison Hunter, 26, fired 13 rounds from an AK-47 during Minneapolis protests in late May.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Zorba]

How about shot at?

'Boogaloo Bois' member charged in connection to shooting at MN police station

Prosecutors say Ivan Harrison Hunter, 26, fired 13 rounds from an AK-47 during Minneapolis protests in late May.

www.nbcnews.com

No, you see, he said buildings. We all know that buildings, like corporations, have more human rights than actual humans. Except for those buildings getting knocked down by hurricanes, floods and fires, those building should've known better.

 

[ewdotson]

Well, this is going well for Team Trump:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1326992844066840581

 

[SmCaudata]

Well, this is going well for Team Trump:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1326992844066840581

I saw the reporter on MSNBC say that a poll worker tried to come out to talk to the "count every vote" Trump supporters in Maricopa. The worker said that the manufacturer recommended sharpies. Then the reporter demonstrated why (ball pint pens smear) and that the bubbles are offset so bleed through doesn't matter. It seems fairly simple and logical.

We need to pass a law in this country that lawyers cannot bill for suits thrown out as frivolous and that the filing attorney has to pay the defense attorneys fees as well.

 

[hal2kilo]

Trump come back in 4 years. Ha, at his age? 4 years in politics is like an eternity. Yea, this non-recognition of Biden is really worth it. For a bunch of self declared non-cucks, Trump's got you wrapped around his little finger. Will you stay enthralled. Sure you won't change your fickle very little minds and go for Tucker. Silly adults.

 

[UNCjigga]

If you want beef then bring the rake-us
Koup Klutz Klan ain't nuthin to f**k wit

 

[pmv]

Well, this is going well for Team Trump:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1326992844066840581

https://twitter.com/x/status/1326936010224230400

Sharpies, red buttons, green buttons - to be fair to Trumpies, it seems like the underlying problem just seems to be voters don't have much faith in the process and are never sure they did it right or that their vote was registered. cf: the hanging chads fiasco (after all, badly designed voting machines there in effect led to two disastrous wars and tens of thousands of deaths, and the rise of ISIS).

Surely most of this nonsense could be averted if the US just had common national standards for the actual mechanics of voting? Don't have each state or county pick their own over-complicated voting machines. Just put ticks in boxes and have human beings count them, like other countries do. Or, if you must use machines, have a single national standard for them, so that voters understand what's going on.

 

[allisolm]

Looks like sharpiegate is over. Another suit bites the dust.


"The second Arizona SharpieGate lawsuit shall meet a similar fate as the first one.

The Trump campaign said Friday in a court filing that it was backing away from a lawsuit filed in recent days that alleged that scores of voters may have been disenfranchised by how Maricopa County election workers were handling an issue with tabulators reading their ballots."

Trump Campaign Bails On Its Arizona 'SharpieGate'-Lite Lawsuit

The second Arizona SharpieGate lawsuit shall meet a similar fate as the first one. The Trump campaign said Friday in...

talkingpointsmemo.com

 

[SmCaudata]

Looks like sharpiegate is over. Another suit bites the dust.


"The second Arizona SharpieGate lawsuit shall meet a similar fate as the first one.

The Trump campaign said Friday in a court filing that it was backing away from a lawsuit filed in recent days that alleged that scores of voters may have been disenfranchised by how Maricopa County election workers were handling an issue with tabulators reading their ballots."

Trump Campaign Bails On Its Arizona 'SharpieGate'-Lite Lawsuit

The second Arizona SharpieGate lawsuit shall meet a similar fate as the first one. The Trump campaign said Friday in...

talkingpointsmemo.com

I'm shocked. You mean complaining that Arizona followed the manufacturers recommendations wasn't a winning argument in court?

 

[Amused]

Oh this just keeps getting better and better...
(BTW, this case was dropped today)
You just can't make up this level of incompetence and graft going on.
A campaign attorney for President Donald Trump was caught calling his own business partner as a witness during a Thursday hearing on alleged electoral irregularities in Arizona.
Kory Langhofer is leading the White House’s increasingly impossible efforts to overturn election results in Maricopa County where the 45th president was handily defeated by Joe Biden, leading to the Democrat’s razor-sharp victory margin in the Grand Canyon State.
To that end, Langhofer called witness Zack Alcyone–who just so happens to be the co-founder of petition analysis company Signafide. The company’s other co-founder? Kory Langhofer.

Kory Langhofer Called Business Partner as Witness | Law & Crime

A campaign attorney for President Donald Trump was caught calling his own business partner as a witness during a Thursday hearing on alleged electoral irregularities in Arizona.

lawandcrime.com