2018 Midterm Election Results

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The big issue is the US House. Love it or hate it the Senate is working pretty much as intended, an antimajorian body.

The current house apportionment formula and cap on seats is an abomination. I'd say the same for the EC since the idea that one party could consistently lose the popular vote but gain the presidency was totally not the intent.

Florida is the ultimate "FEELS BAD" state. 29 electoral votes given to a single candidate because of a 500 vote difference between 6,000,000 overall votes. It's just not doing any favors in this ultra partisan winner take all loser gets nothing era of politics we have entered.
 

K1052

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Broward County? really? Isn't that the same fucked-up county where some 80% of retired Jewish people managed to vote for that raging anti-semite, Pat Buchanan in 2000? (who, to his credit, even admitted that there was clearly something wrong with that, lol)

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K1052

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Florida is the ultimate "FEELS BAD" state. 29 electoral votes given to a single candidate because of a 500 vote difference between 6,000,000 overall votes. It's just not doing any favors in this ultra partisan winner take all loser gets nothing era of politics we have entered.

I am fully prepared to pay Elon Musk a substantial sum if he can figure out a way to dissolve the limestone under it far more rapidly without anybody noticing.
 

spacejamz

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Mar 31, 2003
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Nothing to do with party. Democracy is supposed to be representative of the populace. How is it possible that 40 mil people from one state have the same representation/sway as 700k people from another? Makes no sense to me.

google 'Great Compromise' and you will have your answer....
 

Jaskalas

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The overall arching theme should be ensuring the general welfare of the people.

And Republicans think that means paying wall street everything and leaving bootstraps for the people.

We are dynamically opposed to them and want VERY DIFFERENT things.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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And Republicans think that means paying wall street everything and leaving bootstraps for the people.

We are dynamically opposed to them and want VERY DIFFERENT things.

Yes and as I pointed out, before you tried to both sides the argument, the Republicans put party before country. Something the founding fathers didn't think would happen at such a large scale.
 

Jhhnn

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And Republicans think that means paying wall street everything and leaving bootstraps for the people.

We are dynamically opposed to them and want VERY DIFFERENT things.

That covers the GOP leadership but not their voters who apparently can't see that or dismiss it as less important than God, guns, gays & the usual array of GOP wedge issues.
 

Bitek

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Aug 2, 2001
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I don't know, you had what will probably be a 7 to 8 point Democratic Party edge in national voting, and the result of that was like 3 Senate seats swinging red and a relatively narrow house majority.

Maybe the voter suppression tactics we've seen already will be expanded, gerrymandering and population shifts will exacerbate the situation, and soon enough a 10, 11, or 12 point margin won't be enough. If you're looking at how many people pulled the lever for democrats, you can find comfort in Tuesday's results. But looking how those votes have translated to electoral results is very alarming to me.

Don't disagree, but we should be sober in the fact that it won't be corrected by a single election. It's going to be a hard, sustained fight.

Dems got completely screwed in 2010 and have paid the price for the last decade. On top, Obama did a shit job building the infrastructure under him at the local levels. The Ds don't really have clear leadership, and what is there is old and near retirement.

One good midterm on a republican favorable map only begins to wind that back.
 
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Bitek

Lifer
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There are a few dueling narratives. I need to find the article again, but I found one last night about ballot initiatives as a contradiction to tribalism. A few liberal ballot initiatives passed in areas that enthusiastically support Trump, and voters similarly took a more conservative stance on ballot initiatives in deep blue areas.

What this tells me is that while the Twitter fringe may drive the news cycles, with a President dousing the flames with gasoline, what most voters crave is fiscally responsible democratic socialism (health care) and sensible liberal social policies (marijuana, etc). Investments in infrastructure and a reasonable approach to immigration would be nice as well. Oh, and more progressive tax structures.

I'm for all that, hence my befuddlement of why do many vote R.

Sounds like a return to Obama to me.
 

cytg111

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He’s trying. Funny how these turds become lesser turds once they escape from Trump

Well, his mouth is moving.. lets see how hard he presses it.. Running in 2020 he must be able to say "Hey I tried! Its on the record! Look!"
 

Jaskalas

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Its like you don't even bother reading your own links. Way to attribute opinions of inconsequential people to that of Democrats actually elected to office. Your linking to a post about gorsuch, a nomination that was stolen, was especially ironic as I highly doubt you were up in arms about Republicans not even giving a hearing to garland. I'm sure you realize how stupid your post is but seeing that you are a deplorable you won't admit it.

Go fuck yourself with your false equivalencies.

Your best efforts to polarize fall utterly short, as I am fully aware of how petty, and ignorant your response is.

1: There was a bit of karma with Garland.
2: Regardless, I vehemently opposed that obstruction.
Hearings and votes should be held. I hated Harry Reid's permanent obstructionism and I'll give the Republicans no slack for it either.
Mar 16, 2016
Not obtuse... partisan. This is open hostility and hatred. This is the party of Trump.

Do you see the truth now? I called for normalcy, I called for a vote.
I called Republicans hostile and hateful. I called them Trump. A derogatory jab months before he was their nominee.

Were I an independent or moderate person, your hostility might be used to represent Democrats. Your post would do wonders to drive them away. Thankfully I am no fence sitter, but you would do well not to become the regressive pieces of shit that you claim to oppose. On one hand speaking of compromise, of common ground for "general welfare of the people". On the next breath you drop all pretense of civility. And that was sort of my point... that your post rang hollow. It was not true. Because there is no common ground, not between Republicans and Democrats. So much so that'd you'd have it spill over between us Democrat voters. Amazing hypocrisy, or confusion.
 
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ivwshane

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Your best efforts to polarize fall utterly short, as I am fully aware of how petty, and ignorant your response is.

1: There was a bit of karma with Garland.
2: Regardless, I vehemently opposed that obstruction.

Mar 16, 2016


Do you see the truth now? I called for normalcy, I called for a vote.
I called Republicans hostile and hateful. I called them Trump. A derogatory jab months before he was their nominee.

Were I an independent or moderate person, your hostility might be used to represent Democrats. Your post would do wonders to drive them away. Thankfully I am no fence sitter, but you would do well not to become the regressive pieces of shit that you claim to oppose. On one hand speaking of compromise, of common ground for "general welfare of the people". On the next breath you drop all pretense of civility. And that was sort of my point... that your post rang hollow. It was not true. Because there is no common ground, not between Republicans and Democrats. So much so that'd you'd have it spill over between us Democrat voters. Amazing hypocrisy, or confusion.

Lol again, you compare inconsequential peoples talk to that of actually elected politicians. You don't get civility when you are being that dishonest. Sorry the point was lost on you, again.

I also suggest you look up the word "vehemently" as your referenced post was anything but. However, kudos to you for at least being on the record, too bad you did it while spewing bullshit about reids obstruction.
 

Jhhnn

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I am fully prepared to pay Elon Musk a substantial sum if he can figure out a way to dissolve the limestone under it far more rapidly without anybody noticing.

God, no. They'll just move here en masse. Florida man needs & deserves his own special realm.
 

K1052

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Another chunk of AZ votes just got posted....Sinema pulled ahead of McSally by about 2k votes.

Still a long way to go here though.
 

Maxima1

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Another chunk of AZ votes just got posted....Sinema pulled ahead of McSally by about 2k votes.

Still a long way to go here though.

It would be sweet if we get AZ and FL. lol Little Marco is upset.
 

K1052

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If there is a hell people who vote Green Party are 100% going there.
 

K1052

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I think a few Republicans might feel the same way about Independent or Libertarian candidates this election.

Yes and certainly some of their own who won caustic primaries only to get obliterated by the Dem in the general.