2014 Gasoline Price Forecast

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dmcowen674

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fskimospy

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Five is old news,that has been reached and passed many times in Chicago.

They are shooting for six this year now. I'm sure we'll see it easily based on how many times been pushing $4 in the "low" months of winter.

Or as my chart clearly shows, not.

What is strange is that this should he good news to you, but since you desperately want to be a victim, you fight against it.
 

werepossum

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Oh look, Obama EPA Thugs have been colluding to with environmentalists on ways to keep oil prices high.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...en-epa-environmental-groups-on-keystone-coal/

Dave, where's your post about this thuggish behavior?
I'm a big supporter of the Keystone pipeline, but I don't think it's going to materially lower oil prices. Oil and gasoline cost what they do because that's what the market will bear, and if Canadian oil is not exported from the USA it will be exported directly out of Canada.
 

Engineer

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Gas still has not hit the highs it did in 2008.

I can't quite understand why it's not cheaper than it is though...most US production (and rising) in decades as well as lowest usage (and dropping) in well over a decade. Somehow, supply and demand doesn't seem to be holding true. I guess that's what happens when there are people with LOTS of money trading this stuff back and forth because they don't want to spend it on anything else (like building industries, etc).
 

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Jumped that 30 cents again today.

Most stations are around $3.35 but one station on 38th went to $3.79 so that one odd one jumped around 50 cents.

With all these jumps why aren't prices at $10 yet?

Btw, this is a rhetorical question. We all know your game.
 

Sulaco

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I love how Dave's continued idiocy has united both liberal and conservative members in shooting him down.

Thanks Dave! Keep up the good work!
 

Doppel

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Jumped that 30 cents again today.

Most stations are around $3.35 but one station on 38th went to $3.79 so that one odd one jumped around 50 cents.
No, it didn't. You're lying again. You absolutely deserve to be permabanned for so many years of lying and deceit that you spew on these forums like a geriatric cat vomiting all over the house.

Oh hell, Dave, I gotta report you again. You were already banned for this lying about gas prices, I guess you just haven't learned. http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Calm down. Dave isn't in Chicago any more.
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Meghan54

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No, it didn't. You're lying again. You absolutely deserve to be permabanned for so many years of lying and deceit that you spew on these forums like a geriatric cat vomiting all over the house.

Oh hell, Dave, I gotta report you again. You were already banned for this lying about gas prices, I guess you just haven't learned. http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx


I don't know if he's lying....downtown Chicago has gas prices of $3.99

Scroll down to the "highest prices" section of this page----the stations are in downtown Chicago. A few miles outside downtown, prices drop radically, like to $3.19

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx


But to expect downtown insert-name-of-big-city gas prices to be representative of overall gas prices is just ridiculous. What's not being said is the higher city and county taxes in town, esp. in places like Chicago, NYC, Boston, etc., higher rent for stations which leads to higher prices, convenience pricing---you're going to pay more for convenience (that's why gas stations right off the interstates costs more than a few miles away), higher environmental fees for downtown gas stations, etc., etc.

All one needs to do is look at avg. gas prices across the country, like this:

gasprices.jpg



It's obvious which states have higher tax rates vs. states with lower taxes on gas.


Now, focus in on Chicago:

chicagoprices.jpg



Quite easy to see downtown Chicago is much higher than the surrounding areas. But that's the price you pay for buying gas downtown, in any big city. The same thing is replicated in Boston, Atlanta, NYC, LA, etc., etc. So for Dave to use Chicago as a bell weather of overall gas prices in the U.S. is rather disingenuous, at best.
 
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Engineer

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No, it didn't. You're lying again. You absolutely deserve to be permabanned for so many years of lying and deceit that you spew on these forums like a geriatric cat vomiting all over the house.

Oh hell, Dave, I gotta report you again. You were already banned for this lying about gas prices, I guess you just haven't learned. http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

I think Dave is in Indianapolis now...not Chicago (look under his avatar).

If so, yes, there is a big spike.

http://www.indygasprices.com/Retail_Price_Chart.aspx



Maybe, but it doesn't appear so in this case.
 
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dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by Doppel
No, it didn't. You're lying again. You absolutely deserve to be permabanned for so many years of lying and deceit that you spew on these forums like a geriatric cat vomiting all over the house.

Oh hell, Dave, I gotta report you again. You were already banned for this lying about gas prices, I guess you just haven't learned. http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx



I think Dave is in Indianapolis now...not Chicago (look under his avatar).

If so, yes, there is a big spike.

http://www.indygasprices.com/Retail_Price_Chart.aspx

Nice chart Engineer. :thumbsup: and I've never lied about gas prices.

The only liar on this board is the lopped asshole himself and he knows it and for all the world to see of his jealousy of me especially outing thugs like him. My getting under his skin proves his weakness as well as all those that support the Oil Thug Industry.
 

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I'm a big supporter of the Keystone pipeline, but I don't think it's going to materially lower oil prices. Oil and gasoline cost what they do because that's what the market will bear, and if Canadian oil is not exported from the USA it will be exported directly out of Canada.

It will drive up crude prices in local markets that are enjoying discounts due to an over-saturated transportation network (mainly Midwest). This will almost exclusively impact the local refiner's profit who are not really passing on the crude discounts to the gas station providers because the gasoline market does not suffer as badly as the crude from constraints on shipping. Thus local refiners essentially are getting 10-15 dollar/barrel discounted crude but still earn full prices from gasoline. This has led to some hilarious last minute expansions at refineries that were close to closing prior to the shale rock revolution.

I more or less agree with the pipeline as well, but I recognize it will in no way shape or form lower prices by any appreciable amount. It basically will boost upstream profits and hamper local refiner profits.
 
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werepossum

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It will drive up crude prices in local markets that are enjoying discounts due to an over-saturated transportation network (mainly Midwest). This will almost exclusively impact the local refiner's profit who are not really passing on the crude discounts to the gas station providers because the gasoline market does not suffer as badly as the crude from constraints on shipping. Thus local refiners essentially are getting 10-15 dollar/barrel discounted crude but still earn full prices from gasoline. This has led to some hilarious last minute expansions at refineries that were close to closing prior to the shale rock revolution.

I more or less agree with the pipeline as well, but I recognize it will in no way shape or form lower prices by any appreciable amount. It basically will boost upstream profits and hamper local refiner profits.
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that.
 

dmcowen674

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It will drive up crude prices in local markets that are enjoying discounts due to an over-saturated transportation network (mainly Midwest). This will almost exclusively impact the local refiner's profit who are not really passing on the crude discounts to the gas station providers because the gasoline market does not suffer as badly as the crude from constraints on shipping.

Thus local refiners essentially are getting 10-15 dollar/barrel discounted crude but still earn full prices from gasoline.

This has led to some hilarious last minute expansions at refineries that were close to closing prior to the shale rock revolution.

I more or less agree with the pipeline as well, but I recognize it will in no way shape or form lower prices by any appreciable amount. It basically will boost upstream profits and hamper local refiner profits.

and what do you think will happen to gas prices once that $15 discount is gone?

How high will they push gas prices to make up for their lost Thuggery profit to begin with?

I believe $6 would be on the low side.
 

dmcowen674

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The tide is rising. People want to know what the fuck is going on with the huge price differences just miles apart.

The Oil Thugs have some splaining to do. About damn time.

What the fuck is "competitiveness of each market"?

Bullshit speak for greed is what it is.

1-23-2014

http://shelbynews.com/articles/2014/01/23/news/doc52e038bd59a53484676837.txt

Lot of factors go into higher gas prices in Shelby County



While drivers in Franklin were enjoying gas prices well below $3 Wednesday, those in Shelby and other counties were paying much more.



A check of gas prices reported on Speedway’s own web site showed unleaded going for $2.54 per gallon at the Speedway station at 701 W. Adams in Franklin early Wednesday afternoon. Unleaded prices ranged from $3.32 to $3.35 per gallon at other locations within 25 miles of Franklin, including Shelbyville’s three locations.



A spokesman for Marathon Petroleum Corporation, Speedway’s parent company, said the company typically doesn’t say much about specific gas prices, but said there were “a huge number of factors” in how much gas costs the consumer.



Jamal Kheiry cited the price of crude oil, the cost of transportation, local and regional taxes and the competitiveness of each market as factors in the cost of gas.

On GasBuddy.com Wednesday afternoon, prices for regular gas in Franklin ranged from $2.54 to $3.35 per gallon. The website relies on reports submitted to the site by drivers.

Prices on the site reflect reports from the previous 24 hours.

Reader comments

Will wrote on Jan 23, 2014 12:09 PM:
" Yep, biggest factor is just how greedy they want to be. "

Local wrote on Jan 23, 2014 4:25 PM:
" It is simple. They can and there is no legislation controlling prices. Probably due to some fine lobyists work.... "

Boinked wrote on Jan 23, 2014 2:32 PM:
" I would like to know how much more crude oil prices, transportation costs and local taxes are in Shelbyville than in Franklin. If this market is not competitive,that sounds like price manipulation and collusion among the distributors or stations. It would be interesting to see if the same trucks pick up fuel from the same fuel depots and deliver to both cities. Where are our elected officials? This is not an isolated instance. Why don't they make an inquiry into this situation? Mr. Kheiry says they don't talk about specific gas prices. My question is why? Could it be they can't justify them? "

Bigfaceone wrote on Jan 23, 2014 7:30 PM:
" The audacity of profiteers stealing from the public, and they think we are too stupid to realize it. When $3-$4 of our gas money per tank goes in the hands of these racketeers. it is money that won't help us pay our bills, feed our children more nutritiously buy clothes warmer for this weather. All things are equal in this scenario, taxes, refinery, point of origin. Our elected officials are truly in the pocket of the oil companies also, in addition to pharma, and other special interests. "
 

Doppel

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Maybe, but it doesn't appear so in this case.
He said $.30 overnight. It came nowhere close. That's the lie.

This is unfortunately why you shouldn't feed the animals, because one little crumb and they come back like a hungry pig, as he has done with a couple more posts after yours. It builds courage, unfortunately.
 

Engineer

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He said $.30 overnight. It came nowhere close. That's the lie.

How do you know this? The 2 stations near my house rose $0.40 overnight (from $2.99 to $3.39) but the graph shows no such $0.40 spike. What are you basing the above on? The Indy graph is almost identical to the Lexington graph in the recent spike.

PS - the station closest to the house has dropped $0.10 from $3.39 to $3.29 today....still $0.30 higher than it was just 48 hours ago.
 
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dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by Doppel
He said $.30 overnight. It came nowhere close. That's the lie.

How do you know this? The 2 stations near my house rose $0.40 overnight (from $2.99 to $3.39) but the graph shows no such $0.40 spike. What are you basing the above on? The Indy graph is almost identical to the Lexington graph in the recent spike.

PS - the station closest to the house has dropped $0.10 from $3.39 to $3.29 today....still $0.30 higher than it was just 48 hours ago.

He doesn't know jack shit. He is allowed to openly call me a liar for years while he is the one actually doing the lying.
 
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