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2011 F1 Season thread

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2011 British Grand Prix

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/07/07/2011-british-grand-prix-programme/

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US tv times (eastern):

practice 1: friday, 4 am, speed.com
practice 2: friday, 8 am, speed tv
practice 3: saturday, 5 am, speed.com
qualifying: saturday, 9 am, speed tv
race: sunday, 12 pm, fox (4 hour delay D🙂
 
The ban on EBD has apparently been 'unbanned' 17 minutes into FP1.. just for Renault anyway. :sneaky:

Per Adam Cooper on twitter:

One team source tells me that today the FIA ruling changed from 10% throttle to 68%, which he says is 'close to full cold blowing'"
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Apparently Renault pulled out all the stops and went to the FIA with proof that they were cold blowing off throttle as much as 50% back in 2009 and they can't run without it. :hmm: McLaren says that even if the FIA allowed all teams 50% cold blowing they wouldn't know what to do with it on such short notice.

Charlie Whiting is a joke.
 
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ahhh, remember the good old days when innovation meant an advantage? and they weren't spending all their time trying to even out the performance of all the cars?
 
front 2 rows - webber, vettel, alonso, massa. that's a little different.

what's not different at all is the announcement that the fia has changed its mind:
after this race, the exhaust rules changes are withdrawn
 
Looks like McLaren took a hit... I'll wait for tomorrow. Ferrari will be using the same hards they got lapped with at Barcelona.
 
Messing with the blown diffusers is dumb. They should allow ALL to use it, just as happened with the Brawn Double Diffuser in 2009 and let the constructor that makes the best version get the upper hand. I know all teams CAN use it right now, and anyway it looks like McLaren took the biggest hit from the removal of the throttle use on overrun.

Why are the FIA such a set of dicks?
 
DivideBYZero said:
Messing with the blown diffusers is dumb. They should allow ALL to use it, just as happened with the Brawn Double Diffuser in 2009 and let the constructor that makes the best version get the upper hand. I know all teams CAN use it right now, and anyway it looks like McLaren took the biggest hit from the removal of the throttle use on overrun.

Why are the FIA such a set of dicks?
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They need to just make up their damn minds. Either allow it or don't. I'd prefer them allowing it too because I thought F1 was about new technologies and innovations. Apparently F1 is now about keeping whiney bitches happy.

Anyways, an awesome quali job by DiResta.
 
from what i've read:

renault engines have used open throttle over-run (cold blowing) as a means of cooling and stress relief for years. the cut to 10% would kill the motors as they are now. the concession made to them gives 50% throttle, which actually exceeds the amount they were using.

mercedes engines use hot blowing (burning air/fuel in the exhaust pipe) to achieve the same cooling and stress relief. mclaren's martin whitmarsh is arguing their fuel concession leaves them noticeably short compared to renault's throttle.

nothing has been confirmed regarding ferrari's technology, position or intentions.
 
LTC8K6 said:
You mean the turbo will be large? Or did you mean 1.6L V6 is large vs 1.5L I4?

😀
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The second.

And how is all this technology saving them any money? From using each engine in more races?

Honda had a 1.5L twin turbo V6 of about 700hp back in the late 80's in F1.

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Did I mention that the turbo V6 F1 engines were producing ~1500 BHP is qualifying spec in the late 80's... 😉
 
punjabiplaya said:
some interesting numbers on the new rules: http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2011/7/12317.html
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Q: How have the tyres affected the racing?
A: From all of the normal passes, just over 55 percent occurred when the difference in tyre age between the two cars was less than five laps, and 45 percent when it was more than five laps. Of the 180 DRS moves, 52 percent had tyre age difference of less than five laps, and 48 percent when it was more than five laps. The race where the difference in tyre age had the biggest impact was Barcelona, where 'old' tyres accounted for 69 percent of passes. The least influential races were the wet events in Montreal and Silverstone.
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no complaints here
 
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