2010 is the warmest January-though-June on record

[drebo]

BTW, warmest June-July doesn't show a trend. But the temperature increase over the past century DOES show a trend.

Right, but it doesn't put any meaning to that trend. We've been warming for the last 10,000 years since the last mini ice age.

Who says we're not still coming out of that? Who says that the world the way it was in 1900 is the absolute perfect state for the world?

The simple fact of the matter is that warmer temperatures have just as much of a chance of making our lives EASIER and BETTER as they do of killing us off.

 

[Zebo]

Awesome. Guys.... you want to lose weight quick? get out in it and run for an hour. Or hell just sit out in it and do gardening work. AC is the cause of modern human obesity. Sounds weird I know but that's what's changed in last 50 years. Not diet, not exercise. Reason being it takes a shit load of energy to keep your body @ 96 when it's hot or cold...takes nothing at room temp so the pounds just pile up.

http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v30/n11/full/0803326a.html

 

[shira]

quick. find a kluged reason why this has to be human caused. we must keep the hoax going at any cost. move a few more sensors closer to HVAC exhaust or asphalt parking lots if you have to. Just think of the massive revenue we'll collect when our hoax is institutionalized.

Be sure not to allow any of that tin foil to get mixed in with your lithium.

 

[dmcowen674]

Is this supposed to be evidence of something?

Not to those that don't believe in Science like you.

 

[shira]

Right, but it doesn't put any meaning to that trend. We've been warming for the last 10,000 years since the last mini ice age.

Who says we're not still coming out of that? Who says that the world the way it was in 1900 is the absolute perfect state for the world?

The simple fact of the matter is that warmer temperatures have just as much of a chance of making our lives EASIER and BETTER as they do of killing us off.

We're blessed to have so many geniuses post their knowledge here on ATPN. Here's yet another example: No climatologist has thought to evaluate the net effects of climate change - whether positive or negative. It's the full-time job of climatologists to think of this stuff, but Drebo has told us that this gaping chasm in the climate science exists. So it MUST be true. All those coastal areas being inundated, all those cataclysmic hurricanes, all that expansion of desert areas, all those malarial mosquitoes expanding their range northward - to mention just a few of the effects of warming: Those randomly will be POSITIVE events, not negative.

 

[Elfear]

BTW, warmest June-July doesn't show a trend. But the temperature increase over the past century DOES show a trend.

Almost like a cycle trending up...

 

[shira]

Almost like a cycle trending up...

And the beauty of "cycles" that are "trending" is that they can trend forever. So by definition it's impossible to ever prove manmade climate change. And we never have to do anything about what can't ever be proven.

Does that about sum up your contribution to worldwide stupidity?

 

[drebo]

We're blessed to have so many geniuses post their knowledge here on ATPN. Here's yet another example: No climatologist has thought to evaluate the net effects of climate change - whether positive or negative. It's the full-time job of climatologists to think of this stuff, but Drebo has told us that this gaping chasm in the climate science exists. So it MUST be true. All those coastal areas being inundated, all those cataclysmic hurricanes, all that expansion of desert areas, all those malarial mosquitoes expanding their range northward - to mention just a few of the effects of warming: Those randomly will be POSITIVE events, not negative.

You mean all the same stuff they've been telling us is going to happen tomorrow for the last 30 years and hasn't yet happened?

 

[xj0hnx]

And the beauty of "cycles" that are "trending" is that they can trend forever. So by definition it's impossible to ever prove manmade climate change. And we never have to do anything about what can't ever be proven.

Does that about sum up your contribution to worldwide stupidity?

How many years worth of climate data is there? Not speculation but actual data? 100 years? 200 years? The Earth is what? 4 and half+ billion years old? If it were eighty years old that would be like using the last half seconds worth of data.

 

[dmcowen674]

How many years worth of climate data is there? Not speculation but actual data? 100 years? 200 years? The Earth is what? 4 and half+ billion years old? If it were eighty years old that would be like using the last half seconds worth of data.

Data is at least 400,000 years

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/

 

[bfdd]

Data is at least 400,000 years

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/

They almost never show charts that go back that far when talking about the current trend because it would absolutely make the current trend a non-issue. That's why when they want to represent the warming trend they go back to 1800 or 1850 and go "OMGZ LOOK IT GO UP." fact is there have been much warmer periods and much cooler periods than we are currently in now, before and after our species was around.

 

[drebo]

Data is at least 400,000 years

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/

The graph in the middle of that page basically invalidates the entire AGW argument.

 

[xj0hnx]

Data is at least 400,000 years

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/

"Not speculation". I have a very hard time believing that any scientist will claim they can 100% tell you what the temperature was within 5 degrees every day during a 10,000 year period from core samples. How's your vinegar?

 

[shira]

You mean all the same stuff they've been telling us is going to happen tomorrow for the last 30 years and hasn't yet happened?

Happen tomorrow? Since when are projections about climate changes expected to occur over the next several decades "tomorrow?"

 

[NeoV]

I get it - the increase in temperatures after the end of the last ice age proves that there is no warming trend to worry about now - got it......

what's different now and that historical data?

What is that science term, those funny white-coat wearing guys use - when you change something in an environment - ....damn, what's the name of it? Wait - a variable? Has anything on earth changed in the last hundred years or so?

Hmm.....what is different now that might, just might, be causing changes in the normal cycle of climate changes? Is there anything you can think of?

here's a hint morons - 'The Day After Tomorrow' was a movie - and it doesn't speak for those of us that have a brain and actually believe man can have an impact on the climate of this planet, and it's in our best interests, from both a scientific and a national perspective, to reduce the amount of crap we are putting into the air.

It's really that simple. What's sad is that if Newt Gingrinch had created the kind of awareness Darth Gore did about this issue, would the morons on the right fringe even be fighting against this?

 

[Jaskalas]

You cite the temperatures of individual cities as evidence of global trends? You cite an alleged temperature profile over two years and make a grand conclusion about what's been happening over decades?

Do you even pretend to understand the scientific method?

This very topic cites the temperature for half a year.

 

[bfdd]

Happen tomorrow? Since when are projections about climate changes expected to occur over the next several decades "tomorrow?"

It's already been a few decades and nothing has really changed. In fact we even put MORE CO2 into the air now than we did 20 years ago and still nothing has really changed.

 

[bfdd]

I get it - the increase in temperatures after the end of the last ice age proves that there is no warming trend to worry about now - got it......

what's different now and that historical data?

What is that science term, those funny white-coat wearing guys use - when you change something in an environment - ....damn, what's the name of it? Wait - a variable? Has anything on earth changed in the last hundred years or so?

Hmm.....what is different now that might, just might, be causing changes in the normal cycle of climate changes? Is there anything you can think of?

here's a hint morons - 'The Day After Tomorrow' was a movie - and it doesn't speak for those of us that have a brain and actually believe man can have an impact on the climate of this planet, and it's in our best interests, from both a scientific and a national perspective, to reduce the amount of crap we are putting into the air.

It's really that simple. What's sad is that if Newt Gingrinch had created the kind of awareness Darth Gore did about this issue, would the morons on the right fringe even be fighting against this?

You're looking for just ONE variable in the last 150 years? Just ONE? You think there's only ONE thing that has happened in the last 150 years? This is why you and all the other loonies who spout this shit like religion get laughed at. There are so many variables in the equation of climate it's stupid to think we can even account for half of them.

 

[BoberFett]

This very topic cites the temperature for half a year.

It's amusing to watch crazy in action, isn't it?

 

[monovillage]

We're blessed to have so many geniuses post their knowledge here on ATPN. Here's yet another example: No climatologist has thought to evaluate the net effects of climate change - whether positive or negative. It's the full-time job of climatologists to think of this stuff, but Drebo has told us that this gaping chasm in the climate science exists. So it MUST be true. All those coastal areas being inundated, all those cataclysmic hurricanes, all that expansion of desert areas, all those malarial mosquitoes expanding their range northward - to mention just a few of the effects of warming: Those randomly will be POSITIVE events, not negative.

I'm so sick of the Nostradamus school of coastal flooding caused by sea level change instead of natural subsidence. Where are the numbers? Where are the facts? Where is the quantifiable evidence? None of this prediction BS. Is this science or a seance? Give me the facts about Global Warming causing extreme sea level change.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Relatively speaking, not that long ago the Earth was a big chunk o' ice. It's not now. Yes. it's warming, and humans have been causing it since well before man existed.

I blame the Thetans and Xenu.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Oh, gee. Another month, another record. June 2010 was the warmest June in recorded history, and the fourth-consecutive record-warm month. 2010 - still with 6 months to go - is now the first year in history to have four of the warmest months in history - 1998's Feb, July, and August formerly held the record. 2010 is - not surprising - now the warmest January-though-June year on record.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100715_globalstats_sup.html

Now, how's that again about "global cooling?"

considering prehistoric data has "predicted" that the earth has been warmer than it is currently, i fail to see the problem.

 

[Throckmorton]

You're looking for just ONE variable in the last 150 years? Just ONE? You think there's only ONE thing that has happened in the last 150 years? This is why you and all the other loonies who spout this shit like religion get laughed at. There are so many variables in the equation of climate it's stupid to think we can even account for half of them.

I explained this in the big climate thread. No other variable has steadily increased over the past century to cause the warming that has happened. NONE.

 

[monovillage]

I explained this in the big climate thread. No other variable has steadily increased over the past century to cause the warming that has happened. NONE.

Land use due to farming and urbanization. oops

Just in case you doubt the scientific evidence.

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...nic-land-cover-change-by-pongratz-et-al-2010/

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...nic-land-cover-change-by-pongratz-et-al-2010/

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...priorities-by-mahmood-et-al-2010-as-appeared/

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...-a-shortgrass-steppe-in-northeastern-colorad/

Just one source and covers just a few weeks. Do your research.

 

[dmcowen674]

"Not speculation". I have a very hard time believing that any scientist will claim they can 100% tell you what the temperature was within 5 degrees every day during a 10,000 year period from core samples. How's your vinegar?

You are from Texas and don't believe in Science, you are not qualified to ask me how my vinegar is.