2010 is the warmest January-though-June on record

[hal2kilo]

We're blessed to have so many geniuses post their knowledge here on ATPN. Here's yet another example: No climatologist has thought to evaluate the net effects of climate change - whether positive or negative. It's the full-time job of climatologists to think of this stuff, but Drebo has told us that this gaping chasm in the climate science exists. So it MUST be true. All those coastal areas being inundated, all those cataclysmic hurricanes, all that expansion of desert areas, all those malarial mosquitoes expanding their range northward - to mention just a few of the effects of warming: Those randomly will be POSITIVE events, not negative.

Humming birds migrating further north every year.

 

[Throckmorton]

Land use due to farming and urbanization. oops

Just in case you doubt the scientific evidence.

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...nic-land-cover-change-by-pongratz-et-al-2010/

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...nic-land-cover-change-by-pongratz-et-al-2010/

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...priorities-by-mahmood-et-al-2010-as-appeared/
http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.c...-a-shortgrass-steppe-in-northeastern-colorad/

Just one source and covers just a few weeks. Do your research.

I covered that in the other thread. Land use change increases greenhouse gases because they're released from plants and soil when you clear for farming/grazing.

I even posted a graph

 

[IGBT]

Humming birds migrating further north every year.

many never leave due to feeders. kinda like welfare recipients.

 

[Nemesis 1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIcpFXkXWZc&feature=related

 

[xj0hnx]

You are from Texas and don't believe in Science, you are not qualified to ask me how my vinegar is.

No, I don't believe in your religion of man made global warming. Please be sure to fill out the forms before you post again.

 

[silverpig]

We're blessed to have so many geniuses post their knowledge here on ATPN. Here's yet another example: No climatologist has thought to evaluate the net effects of climate change - whether positive or negative. It's the full-time job of climatologists to think of this stuff, but Drebo has told us that this gaping chasm in the climate science exists. So it MUST be true. All those coastal areas being inundated, all those cataclysmic hurricanes, all that expansion of desert areas, all those malarial mosquitoes expanding their range northward - to mention just a few of the effects of warming: Those randomly will be POSITIVE events, not negative.

The hurricanes are only cataclysmic because we have bigger cities to put in their way.

Expansion of the desert? Didn't I read somewhere that during the last really warm period, the Sahara was a lush grassland? Hotter = more evaporation = more rain.

AFAIK, a warmer Earth is better for life all over the planet. Right now we have barren wasteland covering a good chunk of the world because it's too freaking cold for anything to grow there.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Man I hate when someone uses their brain like above post . Well said. But if your going back in time . When was the last BIG flood.

 

[Throckmorton]

The hurricanes are only cataclysmic because we have bigger cities to put in their way.

Expansion of the desert? Didn't I read somewhere that during the last really warm period, the Sahara was a lush grassland? Hotter = more evaporation = more rain.

AFAIK, a warmer Earth is better for life all over the planet. Right now we have barren wasteland covering a good chunk of the world because it's too freaking cold for anything to grow there.

The Sahara is expanding because of deforestation and unsustainable intensive farming. Remember the Dust Bowl?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Good night ladies gentleman .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDf6mk7YXgc

 

[JS80]

Op humans are huge polluters so start a cult and have them drink cool aid then go jump off a cliff

 

[sandorski]

I get it - the increase in temperatures after the end of the last ice age proves that there is no warming trend to worry about now - got it......

what's different now and that historical data?

What is that science term, those funny white-coat wearing guys use - when you change something in an environment - ....damn, what's the name of it? Wait - a variable? Has anything on earth changed in the last hundred years or so?

Hmm.....what is different now that might, just might, be causing changes in the normal cycle of climate changes? Is there anything you can think of?

here's a hint morons - 'The Day After Tomorrow' was a movie - and it doesn't speak for those of us that have a brain and actually believe man can have an impact on the climate of this planet, and it's in our best interests, from both a scientific and a national perspective, to reduce the amount of crap we are putting into the air.

It's really that simple. What's sad is that if Newt Gingrinch had created the kind of awareness Darth Gore did about this issue, would the morons on the right fringe even be fighting against this?

I always chuckle when some Denier throws that into the argument against GW/CC as evidence. Makes me wonder if they throw random Movies into other Discussions?

Wife: Crystal wants to go to a sleep over at Heather's.
Denier: No way, according to Teen Lesbo Pajama Party...

Friend: We should invade Afghanistan!
Denier: Nah, according to Rambo 3 we just need one loner Vietnam Vet...

Wife: Hon, I miss our childhood home in Kansas and want to move back, but we can't afford it
Denier: No problem, according to the Wizard of Oz, if we close our eyes and click our heals 3......

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

The rational science-minded people who understand climate change is a genuine concern hate fuckheads like shira, we know that this dick head is not doing rationalism any favors. His dumbassery cultivates enemies of reason.

 

[monovillage]

The Sahara is expanding because of deforestation and unsustainable intensive farming. Remember the Dust Bowl?

"Images taken between 1982 and 2002 revealed extensive regreening throughout the Sahel, according to a new study in the journal Biogeosciences.

The study suggests huge increases in vegetation in areas including central Chad and western Sudan. "

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090731-green-sahara.html

Ohh and btw thanks for that previously unattributed graph, it had nice colors.

 

[dmcowen674]

No, I don't believe in your religion of man made global warming. Please be sure to fill out the forms before you post again.

Did I say it was man made?

No

I only said the ice is melting and the sea is rising because I physically see it.

Science confirms what is seen.

The only ones that dispute it are nut jobs like you.

 

[BoberFett]

Dave, you also believe that you predict earthquakes, hurricanes, and $5 gas.

 

[flexy]

The hurricanes are only cataclysmic because we have bigger cities to put in their way.

Expansion of the desert? Didn't I read somewhere that during the last really warm period, the Sahara was a lush grassland? Hotter = more evaporation = more rain.

AFAIK, a warmer Earth is better for life all over the planet. Right now we have barren wasteland covering a good chunk of the world because it's too freaking cold for anything to grow there.

LOL at the fact that some people still think that our climate change ONLY means "its getting warmer".

I already posted something yesterday - and everyone with a halfway knowledge knows that the change includes MUCH MORE than simply "its getting warmer". For one, its a change in our ozone layer. Significantly increased risk of cancers due to higher exposure to UV radiation. Go and pull some skin cancer statistics, eg. for Australia.

If you seriously CAN NOT think further than "getting warmer" in all that debate you are showing extraordinary naivity - the whole climate change is very complex with many, many factors influencing each other.

It was just a few days ago where they reported the thermosphere shrinking. Scientists admit they still dont know what this means and/or what consequences this could have.

So does ANY single factor/change..depletion of ozone layer, increased UV exposure and so forth...a simple degree more here..."small" factors which can have unforseen consequences on the system as a whole. (The classic example of the butterfly in china comes to mind )

There is a reason why supercomputers are needed for climate predictions because there are so many factors influencing each other. Its ultra complex.

Please show some brains and stop thinking that "its getting warmer" is all there is to it. People on a PC forum should be smarter.

 

[yllus]

AFAIK, a warmer Earth is better for life all over the planet. Right now we have barren wasteland covering a good chunk of the world because it's too freaking cold for anything to grow there.

It's supposedly better for Canada. Well, some of Canada anyways - but it's not like the Atlantic provinces ever contributed much anyways.

The rational science-minded people who understand climate change is a genuine concern hate fuckheads like shira, we know that this dick head is not doing rationalism any favors. His dumbassery cultivates enemies of reason.

A sentiment I perfectly agree with.

 

[flexy]

AFAIK, a warmer Earth is better for life all over the planet. .

Although commonly referred as "global warming" the climate change also (and in particular) includes "extremes" - be it towards the warm spectrum or towards the cold one. So..extraordinary "cold streaks" are as well a part of this change and CERTAINLY don't "negate" the "hot streaks".

(The statistics and avg. temp increase STILL stand as a fact.)

Those "extremes" which without a doubt can be observed (otherwise you would have to deny all the statistics of the last few decades!) in turn AGAIN have a significant influence on our weather, more violent storms etc..etc.. as a result of those cold/hot extremes.

 

[Jaskalas]

Did I say it was man made?

No

I only said the ice is melting and the sea is rising because I physically see it.

You suggesting that you have personally seen these, or merely attesting to viewing news articles? If our news debunking AGW is propaganda, what makes yours sacred?

 

[xj0hnx]

Did I say it was man made?

No

I only said the ice is melting and the sea is rising because I physically see it.

Science confirms what is seen.

The only ones that dispute it are nut jobs like you.

Ahh, so you agree then that it isn't man made global warming, and all the leftist trying to use it as a power grab are full of shit, good.

 

[xj0hnx]

You suggesting that you have personally seen these, or merely attesting to viewing news articles? If our news debunking AGW is propaganda, what makes yours sacred?

Dude, he physically SEES it, how dare you question his observations about the rising seas.

 

[shira]

The rational science-minded people who understand climate change is a genuine concern hate fuckheads like shira, we know that this dick head is not doing rationalism any favors. His dumbassery cultivates enemies of reason.

And your contribution to this thread has definitely advanced the cause of rational thought.

 

[shira]

You suggesting that you have personally seen these, or merely attesting to viewing news articles? If our news debunking AGW is propaganda, what makes yours sacred?

Your "news" doesn't debunk anything, and not because it's "propaganda." You true-believer types have a difficult time understanding the concept, but scientific propositions can be supported or undermined only by more science, peer-reviewed science.

Try taking a basic course on the scientific method and get back to us when you've grasped the concept.

 

[piasabird]

Where is the poll?

No Poll, Close the Thread!

 

[PokerGuy]

We cannot imperil the cap & tax plan. Quick, write up some more phony reports proving man made global warming!