2009 NBA Finals

[indamixx99]

I dont see how that was an ejection...

 

[RiDE]

I don't know how that's a flagrant but Rondo body slamming Kirk doesn't even get a slap on the wrist.

 

[Onita]

Originally posted by: Baked
Aahhahahahahah, RonRon got ejected from the game again for decking Gasul.

That was a terrible call.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Ah well, lakers win, so I'm happy , but I will have to agree with you guys there, Artest probably didn't deserve that ejection (just judging from the audio commentary). I'm happy that Farmar finally got his game back

I still fear the Rockets though. If Yao is on, it's practically over for any team against the Rockets. I saw some of the Houston games this past season, and to see Brooks or Artest drive to the basket or pull up a three when Yao had position made me go "WTF.."

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: Baked
Aahhahahahahah, RonRon got ejected from the game again for decking Gasul.

That was a terrible call.

yup, total bull

 

[EKKC]

omg. i'm starting to feel bad for Ron Artest. WTF was that? not even a flagrant 1 and got ejected.
it's nice to see even Kobe agrees, that was a total BS call. the refs royally messed up. but then again what's new in this league.

Rondo knock the shit out of Brad Miller = not even a technical
Artest going for a clean hard foul = ejected

seriously david stern WTF

and espn: can't they come up with a better pic than this?

 

[OCGuy]

Full disclosure: Laker fan till I die



That being said, Artest should NOT have been ejected.



That being said, it didnt make a difference, Lakers would have won.




KB24MVP

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: zerocool84
People hate Kobe but I still respect him for how good he is. The way he does things not even LeBron can do. When Kobe get's going, he's impossible to defend and it's not like he drives to the rim when he gets 40+pts, he hits jumpers with 2 guys in his face. LeBron just dominates his opponents in every way physically and is impossible to stop when he get's going to the rim. Kobe isn't physically imposing, he just finds a way to get through. Defense wise of course you have to give the nod to LeBron but Kobe isn't a horrible defender either. He's been on the All Defense team 9 times. His off court things like the rape allegations and other things have hurt his image. Especially him wanting to be traded but can you blame him? He wants to win championships and his team wasn't up to snuff. Management made it happen for him and has been a contendor for the past 2 years. People's off the court antics don't matter to me. What matters to me is on the court. All people play dirty, it's just that superstars are watched more closely than others. Look at Bruce Bowen, one of the most notoriously dirty players ever but one of the best defenders as well but he's not a superstar and he's smart enough to know when to do it and when not to so they don't catch him many times. Kobe is getting older and his athletisism is just going to get worse so he needs another championship soon. LeBron has years and years of growth left and he is just going to get better and be possibly the greatest player ever.

Yes, I can blame him. Kobe was the main culprit in LA falling out of contention by forcing them to dump Shaq. Also, Kobe at that time was unwilling to attempt to make his teammates better - he fostered disunity rather than unity.

As far an "off court antics" go, rape is not an "antic". Legal/moral issues aside, if Kobe had been convicted he would have damaged the Lakers for years.

As far as "all people play dirty", that is most definitely not the case.

I have no idea where this idea of Kobe forcing Shaq out comes from. Most likely from that asshat reporter Michael Ventre. Shaq comes to practice late, comes to training camp FAT when Kobe comes in all pumped up. Kobe wakes up every morning 5am to work out and work on his game to help his team, Shaq comes to practice late every time. Tex Winter, the man behind the triangle offense calls Shaq un-coachable.

Shaq asks for too much money, practically insults Jerry Buss, and Jerry Buss lets him go. Kobe really didn't have much to do with it. Even the players agree. You see a player working his ass off, and the supposed leader of the team in Shaq coming in fat and being lazy, who will you respect?

Michael Ventre is an ass.



Bottom line: Imagine working your ass off, and just getting the butt end of every single thing, and anything you say to even remotely try to save your own character gets turned against you. Kobe must be in some sort of intense zen-Buddhism program to not explode emotionally after everyone saying all kinds of wrong stuff despite his efforts.

EDIT:
Thanks Obama dude!!!!

If I had a coworker who was the best at what he did, and gave me the best chance of accomplishing my goals, I could care less about his work ethic. As far as Shaq went disparaging Kobe, that definitely went both ways.

Kobe was also reportedly at least partially responsible for Phil Jackson leaving. In his book, Jackson refers to Kobe as "uncoachable".

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Full disclosure: Laker fan till I die



That being said, Artest should NOT have been ejected.



That being said, it didnt make a difference, Lakers would have won.




KB24MVP

Wish I had seen the Artest/Gasol play. Doesn't really matter, as you said, Lakers were going to win anyway.

You seem to have a fixation with Kobe...

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: EKKC
omg. i'm starting to feel bad for Ron Artest. WTF was that? not even a flagrant 1 and got ejected.
it's nice to see even Kobe agrees, that was a total BS call. the refs royally messed up. but then again what's new in this league.

Rondo knock the shit out of Brad Miller = not even a technical
Artest going for a clean hard foul = ejected

seriously david stern WTF

and espn: can't they come up with a better pic than this?

I hate the reffing in the NBA - it so blatantly has an agenda...coming from stern :|

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

Originally posted by: EKKC
omg. i'm starting to feel bad for Ron Artest. WTF was that? not even a flagrant 1 and got ejected.
it's nice to see even Kobe agrees, that was a total BS call. the refs royally messed up. but then again what's new in this league.

Rondo knock the shit out of Brad Miller = not even a technical
Artest going for a clean hard foul = ejected

seriously david stern WTF

and espn: can't they come up with a better pic than this?

I hate the reffing in the NBA - it so blatantly has an agenda...coming from stern :|

My brother and I used to have a saying, whenever Jordan got away with a blatant foul or travel: "The refs must've gotten the memo." My brother's a huge Jordan fan.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

Originally posted by: EKKC
omg. i'm starting to feel bad for Ron Artest. WTF was that? not even a flagrant 1 and got ejected.
it's nice to see even Kobe agrees, that was a total BS call. the refs royally messed up. but then again what's new in this league.

Rondo knock the shit out of Brad Miller = not even a technical
Artest going for a clean hard foul = ejected

seriously david stern WTF

and espn: can't they come up with a better pic than this?

I hate the reffing in the NBA - it so blatantly has an agenda...coming from stern :|

That sentiment does not surprise me with your handle.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Full disclosure: Laker fan till I die



That being said, Artest should NOT have been ejected.



That being said, it didnt make a difference, Lakers would have won.




KB24MVP

Any reasonable person knows the NBA is fixed for the lakers. Kobe could bring nunchucks to the court and knock the shit out of the rockets and wouldn't get called for a foul.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: OCguy
Full disclosure: Laker fan till I die



That being said, Artest should NOT have been ejected.



That being said, it didnt make a difference, Lakers would have won.




KB24MVP

Any reasonable person knows the NBA is fixed for the lakers. Kobe could bring nunchucks to the court and knock the shit out of the rockets and wouldn't get called for a foul.

Right, because the lakers arent the better team :laugh:

And that 1st game loss at home was all part of the "master plan"

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: OCguy
Full disclosure: Laker fan till I die

That being said, Artest should NOT have been ejected.

That being said, it didnt make a difference, Lakers would have won.

KB24MVP

Any reasonable person knows the NBA is fixed for the lakers. Kobe could bring nunchucks to the court and knock the shit out of the rockets and wouldn't get called for a foul.

Right, because the lakers arent the better team :laugh:

And that 1st game loss at home was all part of the "master plan"

Of course every team likes losing the first game of a series at home. Seems like a sound strategy to me.

 

[dbk]

wow this is a great game. 1 pt game now with 44.3 secs left

 

[KeithTalent]

WTF, how was that not a foul before the shot????

KT

 

[KeithTalent]

What a disgrace. No wonder people hate the NBA these days. Absolute fucking disgrace.

KT

 

[Oceandevi]

OMFG we lost!!!!!!! cry***8

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
What a disgrace. No wonder people hate the NBA these days. Absolute fucking disgrace.

KT

At least the refs have been consistent in the playoffs...consistently terrible.

 

[dbk]

wtf that is a foul stupid refs!

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
What a disgrace. No wonder people hate the NBA these days. Absolute fucking disgrace.

KT

At least the refs have been consistent in the playoffs...consistently terrible.

It's ludicrous. I don't even care about either of these teams, but FFS just get the calls right! Grrrr. :|

KT

 

[blurredvision]

The refs called so many damn fould that entire game, but didn't call the one at the end of the game that was an obvious hack across both arms and the one they should've seen coming. Complete bullshit for Mavs fans, the refs really cost them a chance at winning that game.

 

[KeithTalent]

Meh, Stern would never let the Cuban/The Mavericks win anything important anyway (see: 2006 finals).

KT

 

[Random Variable]

Serves them right. I hate when a team intentionally fouls at the end of a game because they have a foul to give.