He elbowed someone in the chest, so it was the right call. Ron claimed it was his neck, and got caught by the tape. Dont stand too close to the microwave with that tin-hat.
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He elbowed someone in the chest, so it was the right call. Ron claimed it was his neck, and got caught by the tape. Dont stand too close to the microwave with that tin-hat.
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Ehh they're not that awesome. Bulls/Celtics is a series that will go down in history, these two series will only be remember for the dirty playing and bad calls.
Man Lebron is good but the guy travels on half his possessions. Look what wade did for Miami this season. Plus wade is CLUTCH - won the 06 championship, played well in so many games. But kobe, when that guy is on fire - he's nearly, and I say nearly, as good as MJ. Remember his 81, then all his 50 point games a while back.
Lebron's good no doubt, but the guy has been propped up by the media. Plus he doesn't have a natural smooth shooting action IMHO.
cheezy321
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Wade? Are you serious? He gets the most preferential treatment from the refs out of ANY superstar in the game today. The 2006 NBA finals was a sham. If you watched that series, then you saw how big the disparity was in the free throw shots. Wade gets the majority of his points at the free throw line. He runs recklessly into the hoop and hopes to god someone will foul him. The Mavs got screwed at the expense of the NBA wanting to make a 'star' out of Wade. I am not saying the Mavericks definitely would have won that series, but the referees sure made it close to impossible for them to do so.
Wade got a lot of props this year for "turning" the team around. If you watched last year, you would see that Pat Riley purposely TANKED that team. He made a mockery of the NBA by sitting out his best players with 'injuries' and made his team lose in an effort to get the #1 pick. Shawn Marion was out like 20 some games with the Heat for 'hip injuries'. He was NEVER injured on Phoenix, then all of a sudden he goes to Miami and hes hurt. Yeah, right. :roll: I was so happy when miami didnt get the #1 pick. They didn't deserve it.
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Not really, its called being aggressive to the ring. Something dirk 'no show' nirwtozksi didn't do. Its basketball 101 - if you can penetrate then penetrate cause most times you will either get an easy layup or be fouled.
LeBron was clutch this season - he had several game-winning shots.
Who cares if he doesn't have a "natural smooth shooting action"? He still shoots 30 footers almost effortlessly. Since you bring up MJ, Pippen had a "smoother" looking shot.
Here's the big difference between Kobe and LBJ - when Kobe's on fire, he's unstoppable, and the best scorer in the league. When he's not, he does not do as much for his team as LeBron does. If the Cavs had not steamrolled so many teams this year, LeBron would have played more. He sat out quite a few 4th quarters because the Cavs had a big lead.
I can agree to that. Lebron does help his team out in much more ways than kobe. But when kobe is on fire....
RE: Wade, the thing that ticks many people off is that Wade initiated much of the contact, yet the defense was called for the foul. In over 20 years of watching NBA, I've never seen such egregious officiating for the benefit of one player.
Now, to his credit, Wade saw that and continued to go to the rack...
That's the thing, even if you initiate contact as long as its not an offensive foul you can probably draw a foul. Its the peace of mind you can have when you drive into the key - its what I do whenever I play. Props to him for being aggresive. It might not be in the "spirit" of the game, but its definately within the rules.
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Re: LBJ vs Kobe.
If I'm down a score or two with 30 seconds left in the game I want the ball in Kobe's hands. He's just a better shooter (both jumpshots and FT's).
But for the other 59 & 1/2 minutes I'd rather have Lebron. He just provides so much more team wise.
If I'm down a score or two with 30 seconds left in the game I want the ball in Kobe's hands. He's just a better shooter (both jumpshots and FT's).
But for the other 59 & 1/2 minutes I'd rather have Lebron. He just provides so much more team wise.
cheezy321
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Not really? Are you serious? Do you seriously watch basketball? There were a million articles written about how the 2006 NBA finals were a sham.
From here
From wikipedia:
Dwyane Wade shattered the free throw record in a 6 game NBA Finals with 97 attempts and 75 makes
To say all of the games were fairly called is IMPOSSIBLE. Its just plain impossible. Take off your blinders and watch the NBA with an open mind. Name another NBA finals where the officiating was as one sided as the 2006 NBA finals. You wont ever find one.
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The thing is, if the offensive player initiates the contact, it should not be a defensive foul, unless it's a hack or something, so it's not even within the rules. And other players do not get the calls that Wade did. Even Jordan, who got those calls a lot, never got the "benefit" of the officiating that Wade did in that postseason. That's what infuriates fans - the inconsistency of the officiating.
Where I play, if you initiate contact, you are on your own, unless something pretty severe happens, which is seldom as we're all over 30 y.o.
Edit: good research, cheezy321!
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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
The thing is, if the offensive player initiates the contact, it should not be a defensive foul, unless it's a hack or something, so it's not even within the rules. And other players do not get the calls that Wade did. Even Jordan, who got those calls a lot, never got the "benefit" of the officiating that Wade did in that postseason. That's what infuriates fans - the inconsistency of the officiating.
Where I play, if you initiate contact, you are on your own, unless something pretty severe happens, which is seldom as we're all over 30 y.o.
Edit: good research, cheezy321!
His nickname that year was "Flash". Should have been Crash. I think somebody on the Mavs could have looked at him funny and got called for a blocking foul.
And to play Devils Advocate, I think Lebron had more free throw attempts himself than the whole Pistons team in their first round series this post-season.
But Detroit sucked...so that's not as legitimate of a comparison to a finals series.
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