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Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: peritusONE
The refs called so many damn fould that entire game, but didn't call the one at the end of the game that was an obvious hack across both arms and the one they should've seen coming. Complete bullshit for Mavs fans, the refs really cost them a chance at winning that game.

Then Denver should have gotten two foul shots and the ball back since the foul was clearly intentional.
 

dbk

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Serves them right. I hate when a team intentionally fouls at the end of a game because they have a foul to give.

lol why?
do you not understand why teams do it?
 
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Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Serves them right. I hate when a team intentionally fouls at the end of a game because they have a foul to give.

lol why?
do you not understand why teams do it?

Umm...to take time off the clock? It's a stupid theory. Just play good defense.
 

dbk

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Originally posted by: jjsole
wtf, Yao out for the playoffs!

Freakin' hairline fracture. :(

sux :(
did he cause further damage by staying in the game last night?
i thought adelman should've rested him because he was obviously limping.
 

sash1

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Originally posted by: jjsole
wtf, Yao out for the playoffs!

Freakin' hairline fracture. :(

:( any chance the rockets had just went out the window. shame, really. that series was getting fun to watch with all the fighting!
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: peritusONE
The refs called so many damn fould that entire game, but didn't call the one at the end of the game that was an obvious hack across both arms and the one they should've seen coming. Complete bullshit for Mavs fans, the refs really cost them a chance at winning that game.

Then Denver should have gotten two foul shots and the ball back since the foul was clearly intentional.

Why would they get the ball back? There's no rules against intentionally fouling players. They'd get the ball back if you foul away from the ball under two minutes. WTF do you think players are doing when they just hug the opposing ball handler near the end of games?

In fact that's what the Mavs should've done. Hug Melo. If the refs don't call the foul they they are just blind.

 

dbk

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Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: peritusONE
The refs called so many damn fould that entire game, but didn't call the one at the end of the game that was an obvious hack across both arms and the one they should've seen coming. Complete bullshit for Mavs fans, the refs really cost them a chance at winning that game.

Then Denver should have gotten two foul shots and the ball back since the foul was clearly intentional.

Why would they get the ball back? There's no rules against intentionally fouling players. They'd get the ball back if you foul away from the ball under two minutes. WTF do you think players are doing when they just hug the opposing ball handler near the end of games?

In fact that's what the Mavs should've done. Hug Melo. If the refs don't call the foul they they are just blind.

usually the player will tell the ref before the ball is even in play..but a noob like antoine wright didn't know that
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
What a disgrace. No wonder people hate the NBA these days. Absolute fucking disgrace.

KT
At least the refs have been consistent in the playoffs...consistently terrible.

It's ludicrous. I don't even care about either of these teams, but FFS just get the calls right! Grrrr. :|

KT
I'm not a fan of other team either. It just sucks seeing a team lose a game they could have possibly won because of bad officiating. Man that was horrible.

I can't stand Mark Cuban but he has every right to be beating down Stern's door tonight.
 

Dr. Detroit

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41 points & 8 assists for Lebron and the Cavs have only scored 80.

Is the east that bad or is Lebron that good? It would appear if you can defensively contain him than the rest of the Cavs aren't good enough to score/create on their own.
 

dbk

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apparently the league just admitted their mistake regarding the call at the end of the dallas/denver game
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
41 points & 8 assists for Lebron and the Cavs have only scored 80.

Is the east that bad or is Lebron that good? It would appear if you can defensively contain him than the rest of the Cavs aren't good enough to score/create on their own.

They are that bad. Atleast outside of top 4. and Lebron is just on fire today. Its one of those days. It doesn't help the Hawks cause when they decide to take jumpshots. Out of a time out when their coach was like don't take jump shots.

The games would be much competitive atleast if the heat make. Atleast Wade will try and willing his team to victory. the Hawks have nobody.
 
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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
41 points & 8 assists for Lebron and the Cavs have only scored 80.

Is the east that bad or is Lebron that good? It would appear if you can defensively contain him than the rest of the Cavs aren't good enough to score/create on their own.
3 of the top 4 teams in NBA are in the east. The problem is, once you get past Cleveland, Boston, and Orland, the talent dropoff is huge.

A big reason the Cavs were so good this season is because Mo Williams and Delonte West are capable of creating shots of their own. All 3 guys share guard time running the offense. Even if you contain Lebron he's got the supporting cast to get points.
 

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Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: peritusONE
The refs called so many damn fould that entire game, but didn't call the one at the end of the game that was an obvious hack across both arms and the one they should've seen coming. Complete bullshit for Mavs fans, the refs really cost them a chance at winning that game.

Then Denver should have gotten two foul shots and the ball back since the foul was clearly intentional.

Why would they get the ball back? There's no rules against intentionally fouling players. They'd get the ball back if you foul away from the ball under two minutes. WTF do you think players are doing when they just hug the opposing ball handler near the end of games?

In fact that's what the Mavs should've done. Hug Melo. If the refs don't call the foul they they are just blind.

usually the player will tell the ref before the ball is even in play..but a noob like antoine wright didn't know that

Yep. Dallas should've let the refs know that it will be their intention to foul.

Regardless, Carmelo still had to make that clutch shot.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
41 points & 8 assists for Lebron and the Cavs have only scored 80.

Is the east that bad or is Lebron that good? It would appear if you can defensively contain him than the rest of the Cavs aren't good enough to score/create on their own.
3 of the top 4 teams in NBA are in the east. The problem is, once you get past Cleveland, Boston, and Orland, the talent dropoff is huge.

A big reason the Cavs were so good this season is because Mo Williams and Delonte West are capable of creating shots of their own. All 3 guys share guard time running the offense. Even if you contain Lebron he's got the supporting cast to get points.

Teams play 52 games in their own conference, and 30 games against the opposing conference teams...
 

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The Cavs/Hawks series is a confetti bucket away from being a recreation of the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals....
 
Jun 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
41 points & 8 assists for Lebron and the Cavs have only scored 80.

Is the east that bad or is Lebron that good? It would appear if you can defensively contain him than the rest of the Cavs aren't good enough to score/create on their own.
3 of the top 4 teams in NBA are in the east. The problem is, once you get past Cleveland, Boston, and Orland, the talent dropoff is huge.

A big reason the Cavs were so good this season is because Mo Williams and Delonte West are capable of creating shots of their own. All 3 guys share guard time running the offense. Even if you contain Lebron he's got the supporting cast to get points.

Teams play 52 games in their own conference, and 30 games against the opposing conference teams...
Let's see. Here are the top 3 teams in the East records against the West in 2009:

Cavs 26-4
Boston 21-9
Orlando 22-8

By comparison, here's the top 3 teams in the West against the East:

L.A. 21-9
Denver 19-11
San Antonio 18-12
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
41 points & 8 assists for Lebron and the Cavs have only scored 80.

Is the east that bad or is Lebron that good? It would appear if you can defensively contain him than the rest of the Cavs aren't good enough to score/create on their own.
3 of the top 4 teams in NBA are in the east. The problem is, once you get past Cleveland, Boston, and Orland, the talent dropoff is huge.

A big reason the Cavs were so good this season is because Mo Williams and Delonte West are capable of creating shots of their own. All 3 guys share guard time running the offense. Even if you contain Lebron he's got the supporting cast to get points.

Teams play 52 games in their own conference, and 30 games against the opposing conference teams...
Let's see. Here are the top 3 teams in the East records against the West in 2009:

Cavs 26-4
Boston 21-9
Orlando 22-8

By comparison, here's the top 3 teams in the West against the East:

L.A. 21-9
Denver 19-11
San Antonio 18-12

dont bring facts in here...

but here: FACT: LeBron just was dominate
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
starting to hate lebron more and more with his cocky antics after he scores.

word man word. but the guy is good, i give him that. not as good as KB or MJ but we've discussed that already in this thread so no point beating a dead horse.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: puffff
Regardless, Carmelo still had to make that clutch shot.
Exactly.

Imagine if Melo missed, Dallas fans would have been ecstatic with the foul not being called then.