20,000 Cameras To Be Installed In UK Homes...

TruePaige

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts...ins-for-worst-families

THOUSANDS of the worst families in England are to be put in ?sin bins? in a bid to change their bad behaviour, Ed Balls announced yesterday.

The Children?s Secretary set out £400million plans to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes.

They will be monitored to ensure that children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals.

Private security guards will also be sent round to carry out home checks, while parents will be given help to combat drug and alcohol addiction.

Around 2,000 families have gone through these Family Intervention Projects so far.

But ministers want to target 20,000 more in the next two years, with each costing between £5,000 and £20,000 ? a potential total bill of £400million.

Ministers hope the move will reduce the number of youngsters who get drawn into crime because of their chaotic family lives, as portrayed in Channel 4 comedy drama Shameless.

Sin bin projects operate in half of council areas already but Mr Balls wants every local authority to fund them.

He said: ?This is pretty tough and non-negotiable support for families to get to the root of the problem. There should be Family Intervention Projects in every local authority area because every area has families that need support.?

But Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: ?This is all much too little, much too late.

?This Government has been in power for more than a decade during which time anti-social behaviour, family breakdown and problems like alcohol abuse and truancy have just got worse and worse.?

On the march to an absolutely authoritarian 1984-esque society, the UK continues to lead the march.

Personally I find this disgusting. One the infrastructure for in home monitoring is perfected on the "worst" families it is only a matter of time until it is rolled out to other groups.

Also the police that monitor and can barge in if the camera reveals anything seem like an eerie Gestapo.

All I can say, as I've seen elsewhere once before is this piece of advice:

Get the fuck out of England while there isn't a 30ft concrete wall preventing you from doing so.
 

sandorski

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Well, I wouldn't breakout out the 1984 comparisons just yet. This seems an alternative to just removing Children from home and sending them to Foster Care. Almost like a form of House Arrest that keeps families together. I'd wait to see the results of such a Program.
 

dahunan

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Need to work on process of sterilization for the parents of the problem children too
 

JSFLY

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Need to work on process of sterilization for the parents of the problem children too

Screw that... Just shoot em, much easier.
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
At a loss for words. How can people accept such government intrusion?

I beleive that most people would volunteer for this to keep their kids rather than having their kids go into the foster care system.
 

brandonb

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I don't know what's going on in the world, but this just seems crazy. Government is going haywire these days. What's going on? 50 years ago, if something like this happened, there would be riots. Now people won't even get off the couch.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: ebaycj
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
At a loss for words. How can people accept such government intrusion?

I beleive that most people would volunteer for this to keep their kids rather than having their kids go into the foster care system.

I'm sure the parents that this project is targeting, don't give a shit.

 

spittledip

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Well, I wouldn't breakout out the 1984 comparisons just yet. This seems an alternative to just removing Children from home and sending them to Foster Care. Almost like a form of House Arrest that keeps families together. I'd wait to see the results of such a Program.

Of course it is like 1984. It doesn't matter what the reason is for doing so- it is the fact that it is happoening. BTW is it actually true?
 

GeezerMan

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The Health Bill has provisions for home visitation. It's a slippery slope. On one hand, I can see a well intentioned govt seeing a rise in crime, abuse, neglect, etc and thinking we can nip it in the bud and help all of society. On the other hand, it sets a bad precedent to allow the govt that much say so in a private home. I could see things like the govt telling parents you feed the kid too much, he goes to bed too late, etc.


?The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes.? ? Thomas Paine

?Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of power. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.?
? Daniel Webster


?Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.? John Adams

Section 440 of the House bill ? Home Visitation Programs for Families with Young Children and Families Expecting Children ? would provide grants to states to establish home visitation programs to educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills. The ?well-trained and competent staff? will:

?provide parents with knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains?modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices; [and] skills to interact with their child?
 

bctbct

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No tin foil hat here, but this should be a wake up to all where the US could be 20 years from now.
 

GeezerMan

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Let's see. We have the Cap and Trade bill with Federal home inspections for energy conservation compliance , we have the Health Bill with home visitation to advise on child rearing. We have warrantless wiretaps, we have a U.S. Army brigade on U.S. soil ( first time ever) for civilian use to "coordinate defense support of civil authorities." We have Homeland Security warning about returning veterans being potential terrorists, etc.......

What other Federal snoop and control bills do we have?
 

CPA

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And to think that the proponents of their public street CCTV system said it would never get this far. Unfucking believable.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Almost like a form of House Arrest that keeps families together. I'd wait to see the results of such a Program.

House arrest that keeps families together?! That is probably one of the sickest, most disgusting things I have ever heard. Maybe we should put your family under house arrest, and put CCTV cameras into your house. You are a very sick minded person. Get HELP.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: themusgrat
I really don't even know what to say.....

Such policies are coming to America.

I'm sure the one introducing it will have a (D) infront of their name.