2 NYPD cops ambushed, shot in head

[TechBoyJK]

The truth hurts, huh?

This has nothing to do with mental health and everything to do with guns.

That's simply not true.

 

[bshole]

Lets start with Switzerland that actually issues firearms to adult males. It just happens to be a Sig 550 "assault rifle". Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates per capita in the world. It also has one of the lowest gun-related crime rate in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/switzerland.asp

That convinces me. You are correct sir. We should immediately begin distributing assault rifles to ALL inner city young males. We should probably issue a 5000 rounds of ammo for each weapon to make extra sure we all are safe.

 

[z1ggy]

That convinces me. You are correct sir. We should immediately begin distributing assault rifles to ALL inner city young males. We should probably issue a 5000 rounds of ammo for each weapon to make extra sure we all are safe.

The difference is the culture. They don't have drug, gang and other similar violence over there. I mean, do they even have "inner cities"?? How's their education compared to the US, especially the "inner cities"?

Again, none of this really falls on the gun. It falls on the people who are holding them.

 

[fskimospy]

I always find it interesting that people decide whether or not a country is comparable to the US depending on whether or not it supports their position.

Guns being safe/good for society? Comparing the US and Switzerland is fine!

Health care? YOU CAN'T COMPARE THOSE TINY COUNTRIES TO THE US ARE YOU CRAZY.

In reality of course you can compare the two countries. It doesn't mean that they are a 1:1 comparison, but both cases hold valuable information for us. It shows that high rates of gun ownership are not incompatible with a relatively nonviolent society and their health care shows how we can do ours better.

 

[soulcougher73]

Why are you all argueing about guns and salaries? I can point to a million and one studies to show more guns is not a bad thing and less guns is a good thing. They problem the US has that the rest of these countries used to justify your side of an discussion is that they are mostly homogenous countries. We are a melting pot and no matter how hard why try to say human are all equal, most people view different races/cultures differently. Its just a sad but true fact of human nature (for many, not all). People in general are more apt to take care of "their own" than others. It why mostly homogenous counties done have the same scale of issues the US has when it comes to welfare, crime, murder etc, yet lead the charts on happiness etc.

 

[Moonbeam]

The difference is the culture. They don't have drug, gang and other similar violence over there. I mean, do they even have "inner cities"?? How's their education compared to the US, especially the "inner cities"?

Again, none of this really falls on the gun. It falls on the people who are holding them.

One society doesn't have drug gangs and inner city problems and better education, and the fault lies in the people with guns. Why isn't it your fault. You are a member of the society that permits such shit conditions to happen. It is American society that is responsible for the violence in American society.

 

[soulcougher73]

The difference is the culture. They don't have drug, gang and other similar violence over there. I mean, do they even have "inner cities"?? How's their education compared to the US, especially the "inner cities"?

Again, none of this really falls on the gun. It falls on the people who are holding them.

Of course they have inner cities. I mean just look at this hell hole..

 

[z1ggy]

One society doesn't have drug gangs and inner city problems and better education, and the fault lies in the people with guns. Why isn't it your fault. You are a member of the society that permits such shit conditions to happen. It is American society that is responsible for the violence in American society.

So are you then. What are you doing to fix the problems moonie? And out of all your ramblings that you go on here, I've yet to tell if you live in the US.... so if you don't... why do you think your opinion really matters?

Either way, you aren't doing jack sh!t to help the "problem" created by American society.

Oh wait, let me guess, you (would) vote Democrat to rid the us of all the "evil guns".

 

[z1ggy]

Of course they have inner cities. I mean just look at this hell hole..

WHOA!

For a minute I thought that was downtown Detroit!!!

/s

 

[TreVader]

Yes this would all be solved if the government would just give everyone guns. We can see that totally unrestricted gun ownership is the best policy buy taking a clue from such bastions of freedom as Somalia and Sudan.

 

[fskimospy]

What's also interesting is that this whole row with the police came from de Blasio saying something that we all know to be true. A young black man should exercise more caution in his interactions with the police than others might need to.

Apparently the police get really mad when you say...well...something that's true.

 

[CitizenKain]

What's also interesting is that this whole row with the police came from de Blasio saying something that we all know to be true. A young black man should exercise more caution in his interactions with the police than others might need to.

Apparently the police get really mad when you say...well...something that's true.

They are essentially children who cannot handle even the tiniest bit of criticism before throwing a tantrum.

 

[Svnla]

My focus is on Asians. Again, gangsterism is rife in your community. they are also amongst the most corrupt on Earth. You can point to certain statistics that makes African-Americans look bad and I can point you to China or Vietnam where corruption is rife and life is worth very little.

THEY?

You mean like Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, ect.?


Since you want to talk about corruption. Let see, the top 10 most corruption nations on Earth (from Forbes.com) ===> Haiti, Sudan, Somalia. I do not see China or Vietnam in that list = http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielf...s-most-corrupt-countries-list-for-fifth-year/


Should we trust Forbes or should we trust you with your history of posting here? How about another source? = http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/7-most-corrupt-countries.html/?a=viewall Nope, no china or Vietnam there either.

Third time is a charm? = http://www.businessinsider.com/most-corrupt-countries-in-the-world-2014-12 Nope, no china or Vietnam there either.ROTFLMAO.

Anyway, last time I check, this thread is about NYPD cops that were killed in cold blood, NOT about corruption in far away countries in Asia.

Keep pulling at straw(s) and make a FOOL out of yourself, as you did so well with the bikers that almost killed the SUV driver thread a while back.

Nothing about Asians with 70% out of wedlock children? Nothing about Asians that killed other Asians by guns/violent means almost daily? Nothing about Asians that sucked in schools so bad and then blame on whities? Heeeellloooooo??? Anything at all?

 

[Nebor]

This thread is great. Good work everyone.

 

[Svnla]

Yes, but that article was about how there was a shift last year after all the lawsuits and other attacks against the cops due to the super racist way they were acting for years. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Let try it again.

NYC, 26% of population is blacks, 29% is hispanics/latinos.

From the article I posted above, NYPD data stated that 65% of violent criminals were blacks and 27% of violent criminal were hispanics/latinos. The percentage of all stops on blacks and hispanics were within the range (56% and 30%). I do not see any massive "disportion" oppression on those two groups (per their very well representation as violent criminals).

Now if blacks and hispanics only have about 10% of representation as violent criminals and receive 30% or higher in police stops, then I can see where you are coming from.

That's my point. You can say racist this and that and how the po po has been oppressing minorities for years but facts are facts. Funny how those "racist" cops did not stop Asians as much? Must be because Asians are honorable whites? LOL.

 

[TreVader]

What's also interesting is that this whole row with the police came from de Blasio saying something that we all know to be true. A young black man should exercise more caution in his interactions with the police than others might need to.

Apparently the police get really mad when you say...well...something that's true.

That's because nobody has had the balls
to tell them the truth before.

They're so used to being babied and waited on and excused that when somebody tells them what an abomination they've become they throw a fit.

LEOs need to ALL be fired. Throw the bumbs out! Let the military be security until we can hire a police force that isn't completely made up of criminals and idiots and cowards.

 

[fskimospy]

Let try it again.

NYC, 26% of population is blacks, 29% is hispanics/latinos.

From the article I posted above, NYPD data stated that 65% of violent criminals were blacks and 26% of violent criminal were hispanics/latinos. The percentage of all stops on blacks and hispanics were within the range (56% and 30%). I do not see any massive "disportion" oppression on those two groups (as per their well representation as violent criminals).

That's my point. You can say racist this and that and how the po po has been oppressing minorities for years but facts are facts. Funny how those "racist" cops did not stop Asians as much? Must be because Asians are honorable whites? LOL.

Yes, lets try this again.

Your article is saying that the numbers have IMPROVED to that level from previous years. After more than 10 years of activity so disproportionate that it was ruled unconstitutional, surely you can see why people might not say "well it got better this year so I guess let's just forget the last decade ever happened."

Does that make sense? Facts are indeed facts.

 

[Nebor]

That's because nobody has had the balls
to tell them the truth before.

They're so used to being babied and waited on and excused that when somebody tells them what an abomination they've become they throw a fit.

LEOs need to ALL be fired. Throw the bumbs out! Let the military be security until we can hire a police force that isn't completely made up of criminals and idiots and cowards.

The military isn't nearly large enough to police the entire United States, nevermind all the other missions going on.

 

[BoberFett]

All I'm angry at is the complete and utter lack of motivation in this country to help our mentally ill. We let crazy people shoot up movie theatres, schools, and offices...

become cops...

 

[bshole]

become cops...

Damn I was thinking the same thing.... lol

 

[Subyman]

IMO if you want calm cops, live in a small town.

 

[Darwin333]

Well, that and firefighters do far less actual work. There's a reason that there's a huge waiting list to be a firefighter at virtually every fire department in the country. Sweet job with sweet benefits and a fat retirement.

Except for that running into burning buildings shit....

Fire sucks ass

 

[Nebor]

Except for that running into burning buildings shit....

Fire sucks ass

It's better than the old days when they had to physically fight the fire with their fists.

 

[TreVader]

I see the firefighters in my home town at the beach playing volleyball often. They definitely aren't working hard, but at least they are in shape. And they don't kill people.

 

[HomerJS]

Let try it again.

NYC, 26% of population is blacks, 29% is hispanics/latinos.

From the article I posted above, NYPD data stated that 65% of violent criminals were blacks and 27% of violent criminal were hispanics/latinos. The percentage of all stops on blacks and hispanics were within the range (56% and 30%). I do not see any massive "disportion" oppression on those two groups (per their very well representation as violent criminals).

Now if blacks and hispanics only have about 10% of representation as violent criminals and receive 30% or higher in police stops, then I can see where you are coming from.

That's my point. You can say racist this and that and how the po po has been oppressing minorities for years but facts are facts. Funny how those "racist" cops did not stop Asians as much? Must be because Asians are honorable whites? LOL.

Eric Garner was committing what violent crime? He was committing a financial crime in NYC. How many police showed up in the other part of the city that committed some of the biggest financial crimes in history???