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SpideyCU

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It's OK. Given SingleMalt's mad-crazy spelling and grammar "skillz", I think it's safe to assume that he himself is running a company that's making $300 in 15 minutes, right?. ;)
 

SingleMalt

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Originally posted by: Dixiesys
Originally posted by: SingleMalt
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
maybe 15 minutes downtime or less a month. more reliable than my cable

With cable, U lose maximum 15 minutes of a rented DVD, 1/8 th of $3 rental value!

With Web Hosting, U could potentially lose $300 a pop for each customer, depending on what you're selling!!!

Just my 2 cents, given this Web Host company has this much backing & "testiclemonies" that it has. :)


Is it really worth what you pay for if you lose just one customer in a month?!?!

If you're making $300 a customer, then we're not the place to host your web site, and frankly you should be ashamed of yourself for even looking at hosting companies in our price range. Get yourself to a server with guaranteed SLA and redundant listeners and redundant file servers and all that jazz.

We're not the place to host some ecommerce site where you're gonna lose "thousands of dollars an hour" geeze man keep it in perspective. We're the place to host your hobby site, or a nice forum, even a business web site but good lord man, if you're running an ecommerce site where a customer is $300 and being down 15 minutes is REALLY likely to cost you a customer or two go host with someone like Verio or one of the big Ecommerce ready big boys.

You don't buy a Ford Escort to use for a Taxi.

I never declared that I myself would lose $300 a customer or that I own such a company. A client of mine that I provided solutions to sells antique that averages $350 a piece. He doesn't sell very many of them throughout the year OVER THE INTERNET, just about 24 or so. However, if that potential customer POTENTIALLY has an intent to buy @ that very moment your site is down, that's the kind of loss I was referring to.

Personally, I would be interested in using a host such as yours for WebCam monitoring around my house or my clients', that's all.

you should be ashamed of yourself for even looking at hosting companies in our price range.
So the millionaire next door recently-retired old fogiies cutting coupons to save & stretch their dollars should be ashamed of themselves, too?
BTW, Ford Escort could be used for taxi's if you have good mechanics or excellent lease program.
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SingleMalt

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Originally posted by: SpideyCU
It's OK. Given SingleMalt's mad-crazy spelling and grammar "skillz", I think it's safe to assume that he himself is running a company that's making $300 in 15 minutes, right?. ;)

I won't even sink to your level of sophistication & expertise to attack another @ a personal level.
Just as it takes a little grain of intelligence to understand jokes, it takes a non-@nal person with rich vocabulary to understand when a word is INTENTIONALLY mis-speLLT!

If you are referring to TESTICLEMONIES I referenced, most ppl here simply shrugged it off as testimonies Geez, get a life! Apparently, you do not have the capacity to fully understand the whole meaning of my post. Pity.


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Too bad intelligence is not for sale! :eek:
 

imported_Grimmy

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I never declared that I myself would lose $300 a customer or that I own such a company. A client of mine that I provided solutions to sells antique that averages $350 a piece. He doesn't sell very many of them throughout the year OVER THE INTERNET, just about 24 or so. However, if that potential customer POTENTIALLY has an intent to buy @ that very moment your site is down, that's the kind of loss I was referring to.

So 15 minutes downtime in a month when you might do 3 sales that month, means you have roughly, like a .01% chance to lose that sale playing with the law of averages that it would land on that particular downtime. Yeah I'd stay up nights sweating over the thought of that!

It just gets funny sometimes we have people who'll complain they're losing thousands of dollars because a server is down 15 minutes for a reboot. I'm like "if you're making thousands of dollars in 15 minutes why the heck don't you have your own datacenter or at least a cage inside Exodus and why are you using $3.95 a month hosting?" Not to say downtime is acceptable but if you're seriously making that kind of money you should have an enterprise level hosting solution.

 

vladgur

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Originally posted by: Dixiesys

So 15 minutes downtime in a month when you might do 3 sales that month, means you have roughly, like a .01% chance to lose that sale playing with the law of averages that it would land on that particular downtime. Yeah I'd stay up nights sweating over the thought of that!

But what if what if what if what if WHAT IF during those 15 minutes, his client's site was meant to sell the entire annual inventory of antiques.... yes, the whole set of 24 vibrating redwood potbelly ellephants... :)
 

ThisIsMatt

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Hey Gary, can I get your lowest priced service for half the cost, rather than twice the quotas for the full cost? :) Heck, I might even go half the service for half the cost ;)

Just checking :p
 

SpideyCU

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Oh man, that's rich. "I won't even sink to your level of sophistication & expertise to attack another @ a personal level." --> "Geez, get a life! Apparently, you do not have the capacity to fully understand the whole meaning of my post. Pity."

Thanks for the laughs, Chuckles! I'll refrain from pointing out the obvious so that the 'discussion' doesn't get even more ridiculous than it has. ;)
 

stingygrrl

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I don't really see the big deal. I think most people know that sites go up and down - if it's down, use the phone or check back later. If you have to have 100% uptime, pay for it. Like Gary said, this host is not targeting that kind of customer.

 

SLEEPER5555

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
maybe 15 minutes downtime or less a month. more reliable than my cable

Actually dixie's uptime is only 94-95% on their servers, this is hours of downtime per month!
 

imported_Grimmy

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Originally posted by: SLEEPER5555
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
maybe 15 minutes downtime or less a month. more reliable than my cable

Actually dixie's uptime is only 94-95% on their servers, this is hours of downtime per month!

Our worst uptime is better than 98% and most of our servers are over 99%. Using a 15 minute timer you even get 100% uptimes on quite a few of the servers and that's for months not days of monitoring, though 5 minute intervals is better and 1 minute is best but the cost of 1 minute monitoring is quite high. 94-95% is quite a bit off the mark.

I've currently got several servers being monitored by Alertra on 5 minute intervals for a few weeks now, as you can see by www3 there's been connectivity issues to the Huntsville data center, www4 is in the atlanta data center and is 100% so far, these will be more usable once alertra has been monitoring for a month or two:

Uptime Report for WWW2
Since Activation
Activated: 11/27/2002
Outages: 2
Uptime: 99.890%
Year Outages Uptime A.R.T.
2002 2 99.890% 1.886
Year Month Outages Downtime Uptime A.R.T.
2002 December 2 0 hrs, 34 mins, 6 secs 99.866% 2.020
November 0 0 hrs, 0 mins, 0 secs 100.000% 1.293

Uptime Report for WWW3
Since Activation
Activated: 11/27/2002
Outages: 4
Uptime: 99.639%
Year Outages Uptime A.R.T.
2002 4 99.639% 1.818
Year Month Outages Downtime Uptime A.R.T.
2002 December 4 1 hrs, 51 mins, 57 secs 99.560% 2.028
November 0 0 hrs, 0 mins, 0 secs 100.000% 0.891

Uptime Report for WWW4
Since Activation
Activated: 12/06/2002
Outages: 0
Uptime: 100.000%
Year Outages Uptime A.R.T.
2002 0 100.000% 1.969
Year Month Outages Downtime Uptime A.R.T.
2002 December 0 0 hrs, 0 mins, 0 secs 100.000% 1.969
 

SLEEPER5555

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wow ok i guess you fixed it! a month ago when i was a customer the uptime was only 94-95% on all servers that was why i cancelled i was fed up, do you reset this every month or somthing? uptime is supposed to be total average not reset all the time. so what is the real story? Were the stats broken last month maybe and it looked worse than the real? if you are at a total average of 98% or better (since you have exsisted not in the last month) i owe you an opology for what i just said about 94-95% though 98% is still low by other hosts comparison.
 

SingleMalt

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Originally posted by: SLEEPER5555
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
maybe 15 minutes downtime or less a month. more reliable than my cable

Actually dixie's uptime is only 94-95% on their servers, this is hours of downtime per month!

Finally, after a series of bashing-of-my "reality-posts" , someone actually comes forth with a real story on a Cheapie Dixiesys web hosting thanks to slycat and SLEEPER5555. It proves no matter how many Dixiesys munchkins there are, the truth prevails! - that you get what you pay for; a cheap customer disservice for a lowest bidder price!!!

Why can't ppl just admit the following "I am the lowest bidder, but I am not the lowest quality provider! *LOL* :disgust::eek:
 

imported_Grimmy

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Originally posted by: SLEEPER5555
wow ok i guess you fixed it! a month ago when i was a customer the uptime was only 94-95% on all servers that was why i cancelled i was fed up, do you reset this every month or somthing? uptime is supposed to be total average not reset all the time. so what is the real story? Were the stats broken last month maybe and it looked worse than the real? if you are at a total average of 98% or better (since you have exsisted not in the last month) i owe you an opology for what i just said about 94-95% though 98% is still low by other hosts comparison.

What stats? there are no stats until I started using alertra last month.

Do you mean OUR stats thing that we took offline? It was broken, it also kept reporting 112% and other fun uptimes. That was never supposed to even be seen by the public because it was a work in progress that we never got the bugs out of and finally scrapped.

There is no uptime monitoring on the servers except for some customers running internetseer and one of those customers posted their internetseer stats here in this thread earlier showing 100% uptime for his web site.

I'd be curious where you're getting these uptime reports from.

94-95% on ALL servers? we've got 24 web servers online so I'd really be curious to see who is monitoring them ALL to get our uptime stats you keep using. Especially since I've got servers that ain't been rebooted in 80 or more days and apache web servers that haven't been even restarted for over 3 weeks. So that 94-95% sounds mighty hard to swallow here.

Post some urls to these monitors so we can see that you're not just spouting off with no proof to back it up. You can do that can't you? Back up these claims you're making? Or are you just guessing and pulling numbers out of, your, well, out of thin air?

Edit: the 98% is just a guess on my part, our internal monitors don't show a server below 99.2% but it is internally kept so I don't post those stats because hey, we control the server, I could just lie eh? Though new servers that are having customers actively added to them every few hours DO have an uptime around 97-98% because apache has to restart DOZENS of times a day to activate those customers, I mean, we gotta add customers right? And both Plesk, Ensim, and the RAQ control panel restart apache for each new customer, just the nature of the beast.

Thanks!
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Hey Gary, can I get your lowest priced service for half the cost, rather than twice the quotas for the full cost? :) Heck, I might even go half the service for half the cost ;)

Just checking :p
So no? :D

 

udonoogen

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Hey Gary, can I get your lowest priced service for half the cost, rather than twice the quotas for the full cost? :) Heck, I might even go half the service for half the cost ;)

Just checking :p
So no? :D

from their website:

If you need more, or less than any of these plans offer, feel free to contact us and we'll be glad to give you a custom plan based on your needs, it's just silly to think 3 or 300 different plans are perfect for everybody!

(personally i dont think it'd be in their best interests to respond to your answer on this forum ... try a ticket or email)
 

SLEEPER5555

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ok gary chill i was not attacking you i was refering to the stats pages that you took down so i cannot post a link because as you pointed out you ttok it down! A month ago i was a customer on server 3 or www3. i was a customer for 2 months and after the server going down almost daily i decided to quit i cancelled almost a month ago now so i suppose it is possible you have gotten better at uptime. again i am not attacking you or your company i am just telling you my experience, and what we all seen according to your stats page!
 

Delbert

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Shifting now to a satisfied customer. I am thinking about upgrading from small reseller to medium reseller. Thanks far all you do Gary.
 

imported_Grimmy

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Originally posted by: SLEEPER5555
ok gary chill i was not attacking you i was refering to the stats pages that you took down so i cannot post a link because as you pointed out you ttok it down! A month ago i was a customer on server 3 or www3. i was a customer for 2 months and after the server going down almost daily i decided to quit i cancelled almost a month ago now so i suppose it is possible you have gotten better at uptime. again i am not attacking you or your company i am just telling you my experience, and what we all seen according to your stats page!

I think I did get too harsh with you and I shouldn't have. The stats page was a early alpha type project and really wasn't meant to be seen but that's still not your fault, so I apologize, and your opinion is your own to give as an unsatisfied customer and is just as valid as any other so just ignore my harsh tone.

 

vtqanh

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Dixiesys is an awesome service. Not rocking stable and lighting fast, but it's great for the money that i spent!
 

misterj

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Originally posted by: vtqanh
Dixiesys is an awesome service. Not rocking stable and lighting fast, but it's great for the money that i spent!

ditto. i dont even remember how long its been since i signed up as i dont even frequent my own site often, but i do check my email on it several times a day and ive never had a problem.
 

wumpuskiller

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Gary,
I'd like to give a year's hosting to 2 relatives as a Xmas present. Can I sign-up without a domain name and send those in later (after the relatives pick the names)?

Thanks,
wumpus.....
 

imported_Grimmy

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Sure that's quite common during the 2 for 1's, just put something like "TBD Later" in the domain field(s) so we know you'll get us the domains later and we'll put you in a pending list until you're ready to activate.