2 days in power....Gun bans and Mississippi sucks.

[Specop 007]

Way to go Charlie. Tell us how you really feel. At least hes honest in not hiding his feelings. Gun bans, wealth redistribution and screwing the South.

I have to tell you, for as much as Dems bitch about our Rights they sure do their damnedest to take them.


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?It?s not just committees ? our influence within the House Democratic caucus will grow enormously,? Mr. Rangel said in an interview.

To that end, he sketched out an expansive federal agenda: Teaming up with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg on gun control, passing new tax incentives for urban job programs, and redirecting federal money to New York in return for the outsize tax collections that the federal government makes here.

?Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money, but who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?? Mr. Rangel said.

 

[SViscusi]

To that end, he sketched out an expansive federal agenda: Teaming up with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg on gun control, passing new tax incentives for urban job programs, and redirecting federal money to New York in return for the outsize tax collections that the federal government makes here.

Boy that bastard. How dare a New York congressman want to serve his constituents. I mean get this that fascist actually wants local and federal law enforcement to work together. And what's worse that pinko commie wants programs that helps inner city people get training to get jobs.

And BTW if Mississippi is so great to live in then why do more than twice as many people live in NY City than live there?

 

[Strk]

Well, two things: 1) Rangell is known for being rather blunt and 2) blue states have a tendancy to get screwed on federal dollars, while red states get considerably more -- so there is a basis for his anger.

 

[2Xtreme21]

PSA: Dems aren't in power yet. Congress doesn't start until January.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: SViscusi
And BTW if Mississippi is so great to live in then why do more than twice as many people live in NY City than live there?

Population density is a poor judge of how nice an area is to live in.

 

[Balt]

Mississippi does get more than its fair share thanks to Trent Lott's pork.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Strk
Well, two things: 1) Rangell is known for being rather blunt and 2) blue states have a tendancy to get screwed on federal dollars, while red states get considerably more -- so there is a basis for his anger.

Only because blue states have more people...

 

[DealMonkey]

"Gun Bans and Mississippi Sucks?" Isn't that a Neil Young song?

 

[Mean MrMustard]

If he would have stopped at this..

?Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money..."

I'd wholeheartedly agree. The other part is a bit arrogant, but harsher things have been said.

Mississippi does get a hell of a lot more than their fair share. It's a welfare state. I thought the Repubs would be delighted to cut welfare spending?

 

[LeadMagnet]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Strk
Well, two things: 1) Rangell is known for being rather blunt and 2) blue states have a tendancy to get screwed on federal dollars, while red states get considerably more -- so there is a basis for his anger.

Only because blue states have more people...

And higher income & education levels

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Strk
Well, two things: 1) Rangell is known for being rather blunt and 2) blue states have a tendancy to get screwed on federal dollars, while red states get considerably more -- so there is a basis for his anger.

Only because blue states have more people...

And higher income & education levels

And there are more of them

 

[glenn1]

To that end, he sketched out an expansive federal agenda: Teaming up with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg on gun control, passing new tax incentives for urban job programs, and redirecting federal money to New York in return for the outsize tax collections that the federal government makes here.

?Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money, but who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?? Mr. Rangel said.

I thought progressives supported higher taxes on the "rich." Well, New Yorkers are richer than Mississippians, so I don't see why Charlie is complaining - you're getting what you say you want.

 

[Rainsford]

Am I the only person who didn't see any "gun bans" in there? And as far as making fun of Mississippi, gee, I didn't realize you guys had such thin skin. Blunt maybe, but that's not exactly an agenda item...and after sitting through 6 years of being called every nasty name in the book by the Republicans, you'll forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic.

And as someone pointed out, the Dems aren't "in power" yet.

 

[marvdmartian]

Originally posted by: SViscusi
And BTW if Mississippi is so great to live in then why do more than twice as many people live in NY City than live there?

Maybe cuz there's twice as many morons that wanted to live in NYC as there were that wanted to live in Mississippi??

Honestly, have you ever lived in NYC? Los Angeles? Another huge metropolitan urban area of millions of people?? Or visited one for any period of time??

I for one wouldn't live in NYC if you PAID ME to do so.......but that's me. Does that make me a bigger moron than the people that choose to live there?? I'm not defending Mississippi, but I fail to understand why either area would rule over the other. People tend to live in the area they're most comfortable living in, ya know??

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Population density is a poor judge of how nice an area is to live in.

Yeah, but land value reflects people's desire to live somewhere.

Red states get more in government spending than they give in taxes. It's normal New York wants its money back. Arguably, it's a states rights issues Republicans would support.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Mississippi gets $1.77 in federal spending per $1.00 in tax paid
New York gets $0.79 in federal spending per $1.00 in tax paid

See full list of federal spending vs tax paid per state here.

Maybe he has a point.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Mississippi gets $1.77 in federal spending per $1.00 in tax paid
New York gets $0.79 in federal spending per $1.00 in tax paid

See full list of federal spending vs tax paid per state here.

Maybe he has a point.

Ok, people on welfare are supported by our tax dollars yet they don't pay any taxes, your point?

 

[d3n]

I might be inclined to agree with this, but I don't. The federal government gave us the second amendment because at the time it knew that it could not protect the people as it needed too. Time of the old west and all that. If you say to yourself 'well that as a different time' just take a look at what happened after Katrina. The police and fear of the law broke down and bolted. That left punks and thugs free to walk up on family's and accost them for supplies and more without fear of repercussions. The only ones that still stuck to some sense of civility were the ones that had been responsible and prepared to evacuate. Some were lucky they had guns to pull and therefore insured their loved ones were provided for. It happened hundreds of times. Sometimes shootouts took place, a total breakdown of civilized society. It wasn't publicized much but it was the law of the land in Mississippi and Louisiana for months.

I think democrats love to foster a sense that the government will be there to nurture everyone and will be the best one to look after their interests, but that is just not the case. People should be prepared to look after themselves.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: d3n


I think democrats love to foster a sense that the government will be there to nurture everyone and will be the best one to look after their interests, but that is just not the case. People should be prepared to look after themselves.

QFT

I think that very accurately describes a liberal Democrats mindset

 

[d3n]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: d3n


I think democrats love to foster a sense that the government will be there to nurture everyone and will be the best one to look after their interests, but that is just not the case. People should be prepared to look after themselves.

QFT

I think that very accurately describes a liberal Democrats mindset

Honestly this is why I am glad that most of the new democrats appear to be fairly conservative in many views. I think there are some things government is the only entity that can do well. Protecting the environment and being responsible for putting checks on big business among other things. This amnesty thing is really distressing though. Nothing to stop it now.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Strk
Well, two things: 1) Rangell is known for being rather blunt and 2) blue states have a tendancy to get screwed on federal dollars, while red states get considerably more -- so there is a basis for his anger.

Only because blue states have more people...

And? The figures are based on per capita, which adjusts for population.

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: d3n


I think democrats love to foster a sense that the government will be there to nurture everyone and will be the best one to look after their interests, but that is just not the case. People should be prepared to look after themselves.

QFT

I think that very accurately describes a liberal Democrats mindset

If red states don't like it, how about they stop taking our money?

 

[ayabe]

It's because many largely rural states can't pay for their schools, roads, and social programs due to their small tax base. It's small because of the lower incomes and lower population density.

But MS is the worst place I've ever visited for business, I wouldn't live there for double my salary now.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: SViscusi
And BTW if Mississippi is so great to live in then why do more than twice as many people live in NY City than live there?

Maybe cuz there's twice as many morons that wanted to live in NYC as there were that wanted to live in Mississippi??

Honestly, have you ever lived in NYC? Los Angeles? Another huge metropolitan urban area of millions of people?? Or visited one for any period of time??

I for one wouldn't live in NYC if you PAID ME to do so.......but that's me. Does that make me a bigger moron than the people that choose to live there?? I'm not defending Mississippi, but I fail to understand why either area would rule over the other. People tend to live in the area they're most comfortable living in, ya know??

Actually, people tend to live in areas they could afford.

 

[Ferocious]

lol @ the trembling.

The FACT is that anything that passes at the national level will be a BI-PARTISAN agreement.

That's typically good for America and quite often not so good for extremists.

Sorry goosesteppers.

 

[Moonbeam]

Funny that the major bitchers about welfare live in freeloader states.