19 Year Old Girl Shot Looking for Help

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Thankfully, there was an intervention.
She is no longer a threat to anyone.

reported. this takes unacceptable to a new level

 

[M0RPH]

Are you going on the record saying its okay to kill a drunk person just because they knocked on the wrong door?

You don't know what she was doing. You don't know that she was simply knocking on the door looking for help. That's the story from her family and they were not even there. I'm still confused as to why most of you seem to have already accepted this story as fact. The woman was on a drunken binge that night, crashed a car, left the scene and refused help, then is unaccounted for for 3 hours and shows up pounding on some guys door at 4am.

Who knows what the hell this woman was up to. Certainly we should consider she may have been behaving badly at this guy's door, at the very least. I'm not saying she deserved to be shot, but let's get the full story before we go labeling this guy a murderer and calling him a "monster", as the victim's parents already have. Let's not be so quick to paint her as a girl scout going door to door selling cookies.

 

[allisolm]

A person driving at that limit (which was from the ME; not at the time of the crash) will eventually kill themselves or someone else.
Blatant disregard for anyone's life.

Must be true. The shooter had 2 DUIs and, look, eventually he killed someone else.

 

[SheHateMe]

Thankfully, there was an intervention.
She is no longer a threat to anyone.

You're disgusting.

 

[Geosurface]

Who knows what the hell this woman was up to. Certainly we should consider she may have been behaving badly at this guy's door, at the very least. I'm not saying she deserved to be shot, but let's get the full story before we go labeling this guy a murderer and calling him a "monster", as the victim's parents already have. Let's not be so quick to paint her as a girl scout going door to door selling cookies.

I agree but it's pretty hard to imagine what she could be doing out there which merited a shotgun blast to the face, but left the door intact.

 

[spidey07]

I agree but it's pretty hard to imagine what she could be doing out there which merited a shotgun blast to the face, but left the door intact.

Trying to enter via the side door of the victims house.

This was a severely intoxicated and drugged out home invader we're talking about. Cold and desperate looking for opportunity. Well opportunity shot here in the fucking face.

 

[M0RPH]

Trying to enter via the side door of the victims house.

Has this been reported or are you making it up?

 

[spidey07]

Has this been reported or are you making it up?

Statements from the victim's attorney. His attorney has assured us there is ample evidence that shows attempted home invasion.

Do NOT touch the door of somebody's home at 3 in the morning. You might get rightfully and lawfully dead.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I wouldn't consider her an angel. I'm just saying that at her age, there could have been an intervention at some point and she could have turned her life around.

Keep on believing such.

The only define intervention would have been if she herself was badly injured while DUI. Her parents had no concerns about her other than cleaning up her messes; nor any other relative.

People driving DUI have no concern for others.
The BAC on her indicates she had no concern for anything except her own enjoyment :thumbsdown:

 

[M0RPH]

They are already starting to show pictures of this woman as a little girl. I'm here in metro Detroit and on a couple different news channels they showed pictures of the girl about age 10-13. Now what would be the purpose of showing such pictures?

 

[spidey07]

They are already starting to show pictures of this woman as a little girl. I'm here in metro Detroit and on a couple different news channels they showed pictures of the girl about age 10-13. Now what would be the purpose of showing such pictures?

Following the same game plan as before.

I'd bet her facebook is already scrubbed and the disparaging information will be as well.

 

[classy]

Statements from the victim's attorney. His attorney has assured us there is ample evidence that shows attempted home invasion.

Do NOT touch the door of somebody's home at 3 in the morning. You might get rightfully and lawfully dead.

The prosecutor sent the police back to do more investigation before any charges were filed. The police were going to charge him right away. They have come to the conclusion there was no evidence of an attempted break in. Do you have anything to offer besides the same old biased slop you been serving since....I don't know.....you been alive?

 

[classy]

They are already starting to show pictures of this woman as a little girl. I'm here in metro Detroit and on a couple different news channels they showed pictures of the girl about age 10-13. Now what would be the purpose of showing such pictures?

I just checked two major online news stations from Detroit and this is the picture they are all using

 

[spidey07]

The prosecutor sent the police back to do more investigation before any charges were filed. The police were going to charge him right away. They have come to the conclusion there was no evidence of an attempted break in. Do you have anything to offer besides the same old biased slop you been serving since....I don't know.....you been alive?

Prosecutors are attorneys for the state, they will present their side of the case and assure us the evidence supports the charge.

Defense attorneys work for the victim, they will present their side of the evidence and assure us the evidence does not support the charge.

I don't trust prosecutors, I trust victim's attorneys. Especially when the racist lynch mob is involved. I've learned how they operate, apparently you haven't.

 

[classy]

Prosecutors are attorneys for the state, they will present their side of the case and assure us the evidence supports the charge.

Defense attorneys work for the victim, they will present their side of the evidence and assure us the evidence does not support the charge.

I don't trust prosecutors, I trust victim's attorneys. Especially when the racist lynch mob is involved. I've learned how they operate, apparently you haven't.

Are you just happy she is dead?

 

[werepossum]

4 cars and at least a DUI that was not just a couple of beers over the limit.

She had no concerns about her actions; she was a DUI fatality waiting to occur.

He family must have had connections; protecting her from her actions; their tolerance is encouraging such.

Like Martin; she was no angel and should not be considered as such

How much of that do we really know? Her cousin alluded to two, maybe three cars, but we don't absolutely know she had a habit of drinking and driving. We can surmise that, but we might well be wrong. Maybe she was just a really bad driver. Maybe she drove one with the 'Check engine' light on and destroyed an engine.

“Her first car, she tore it up, and her daddy got her a new one. Anything she wanted, she got. And her second car, she tore that up too. And I think she did another one,” said Byrd, who wore a T-shirt emblazoned with “R.I.P. Cuzen.”

Certainly from this incident she was a DUI fatality waiting to happen, and we have some inconclusive evidence that might be habit and pattern. However, evidently the shooter had two DUIs twenty years ago and never killed anyone. A DUI fatality waiting to happen is not necessarily a DUI fatality that WILL happen. Lots of people straighten up without killing anyone.

I wouldn't consider her an angel. I'm just saying that at her age, there could have been an intervention at some point and she could have turned her life around.

...and that has nothing to do with me.

Anyone alive can turn her life around. No one dead can turn her life around. This kid did something very bad, with a reckless disregard for the safety of others. She MIGHT have had a habit and pattern of such behavior. It looks probable, but is by no means certain. But either way, lots of people are perfect assholes as teenagers but later become responsible adults. Usually without killing anyone.

Must be true. The shooter had 2 DUIs and, look, eventually he killed someone else.

LOL Well, there you go. It was a good sh- Hey, wait a minute! That was sarcasm!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You don't know what she was doing. You don't know that she was simply knocking on the door looking for help. That's the story from her family and they were not even there. I'm still confused as to why most of you seem to have already accepted this story as fact. The woman was on a drunken binge that night, crashed a car, left the scene and refused help, then is unaccounted for for 3 hours and shows up pounding on some guys door at 4am.

Who knows what the hell this woman was up to. Certainly we should consider she may have been behaving badly at this guy's door, at the very least. I'm not saying she deserved to be shot, but let's get the full story before we go labeling this guy a murderer and calling him a "monster", as the victim's parents already have. Let's not be so quick to paint her as a girl scout going door to door selling cookies.

Excellent post. I learned from the Zimmerman case not to trust anything that's not entered into evidence and even then to look at the evidence with a critical eye.

 

[spidey07]

Are you just happy she is dead?

Absolutely!

You go trying to enter another's home at 3 in the morning you get what you deserve.

Don't do that and you won't get dead.

 

[werepossum]

Excellent post. I learned from the Zimmerman case not to trust anything that's not entered into evidence and even then to look at the evidence with a critical eye.

That's certainly a valid point, but in this case surely she was too drunk to effectively be doing anything, too loud to be a burglar, too unarmed and female to be a home invader, and too de-carred to carry off anything anyway. If she was going to steal something, surely it would be another car, not a big screen she'd have to carry on foot and which her parents would no doubt buy her anyway.

 

[spidey07]

She attempted to illegally enter the dwelling from two different doors.

That makes it a good shoot.

You guys are falling for the lies yet again. You didn't learn your lesson.

What's going to screw him is talking to police and the whole accidentally shot thing. When you fire you did so on purpose and with cause.

 

[Jaskalas]

She attempted to illegally enter the dwelling from two different doors.

Two different doors, where'd you get that from?

 

[nehalem256]

The prosecutor sent the police back to do more investigation before any charges were filed. The police were going to charge him right away. They have come to the conclusion there was no evidence of an attempted break in. Do you have anything to offer besides the same old biased slop you been serving since....I don't know.....you been alive?

Yeah, but I read on here that cops are a bunch of reckless Yahoos. He is probably lucky they didn't shoot his dog

Cops have nothing to lose by charging him. Prosecutor probably doesn't want to look like an idiot, so she waited for the ME's report. Imagine if instead of only having alcohol and marijuana in her system she had some drug that would tend to make you aggressive?

 

[M0RPH]

That's certainly a valid point, but in this case surely she was too drunk to effectively be doing anything, too loud to be a burglar, too unarmed and female to be a home invader, and too de-carred to carry off anything anyway. If she was going to steal something, surely it would be another car, not a big screen she'd have to carry on foot and which her parents would no doubt buy her anyway.

At 5'4" 185 lbs she was not exactly a small woman, and she may have been wearing a hoodie, so in the dark he wouldn't know it's a woman. And if he thinks it's someone breaking in then he's rightfully gonna consider they might have a gun on them... how would he know she's unarmed?

Doesn't really matter because he's saying he fired on accident anyways, which will probably put him on the hook for negligent manslaughter.

 

[classy]

Two different doors, where'd you get that from?

His first cousin, Becky Joe..................

 

[M0RPH]

I don't trust prosecutors, I trust victim's attorneys. Especially when the racist lynch mob is involved. I've learned how they operate, apparently you haven't.

Prosecutors are some of the biggest scumbags on the planet. Just look at the case of Ryan Ferguson, which happens to be on Dateline right now.