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Originally posted by: element


Actually the answer to that is no, even truthfully. People don't often do that, unless you hang around a bunch of fake lying conniving con artists or something. It should be a rare occurance for someone to do that. So yeah you were wrong. Oh well.

Wrong.

I got a perfect score on a test like that, meaning I accurately knew the answers to the questions they were asking. Knowing those answers, I also knew that those answers did not reflect reality.
 

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Originally posted by: Hardcore
They probably caught you lying in the test. It's hard to 'fail' these things, unless you're a psychopath... but it's easy to catch people who are lying and trying to pass off as somebody who they aren't. You should have answered the questions as you truly saw them, and not as what you thought they wanted to hear.

It doesn't work that way. If they knew that I was telling them what they wanted to hear, why would they hire me?

They gave that test to weed people out. The fact that they didn't weed me out tells you that they liked the answers that I gave.
 

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Wow, you just got rejected by Radio Shack. I don't know what to say.

My condolences...?

/self
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Hardcore
They probably caught you lying in the test. It's hard to 'fail' these things, unless you're a psychopath... but it's easy to catch people who are lying and trying to pass off as somebody who they aren't. You should have answered the questions as you truly saw them, and not as what you thought they wanted to hear.

It doesn't work that way. If they knew that I was telling them what they wanted to hear, why would they hire me?

They gave that test to weed people out. The fact that they didn't weed me out tells you that they liked the answers that I gave.

First off, i find it odd that they told you you had a perfect scores... these personality tests don't have 'scores', but put you in a personality type category. And second, they do... i did this for a month in college for extra pay. Now, i don't claim to be an expert on these personality tests, but very few people 'fail' these tests unless you are criminally minded, or you're lying and getting caught. Alot of these questions are repetitive, but just repeated differently, and it's quite easy to catch somebody who is lying if they're inconsistent. But even if you are consistent, there are questions within the test that are planted that almost every person will get it 'wrong', and only the people that 'cheat' will get it right... such as asking 'have you ever thought your boss was unfair'. Now, maybe 1 in 50 never thought that of their boss, but if they consistently answer such on those types of questions, even though it would be impossible for such a person to exist, you know you have a lair.
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Hardcore
They probably caught you lying in the test. It's hard to 'fail' these things, unless you're a psychopath... but it's easy to catch people who are lying and trying to pass off as somebody who they aren't. You should have answered the questions as you truly saw them, and not as what you thought they wanted to hear.

It doesn't work that way. If they knew that I was telling them what they wanted to hear, why would they hire me?

They gave that test to weed people out. The fact that they didn't weed me out tells you that they liked the answers that I gave.

Actually they do work that way in some cases.The test I took (different company) was explained to me by the administrator. One part of the test was to detect honesty and conviction. Other parts were there to compare my interests and abilities with others who were successful in that field and others.
 

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Originally posted by: archcommus
So we have some people saying to give the truth, and others saying to give them what they want. What's the answer then?

The clueless folks on here are telling you to do what you did. You won't get hired that way. I'm saying to tell them what they want to hear. You will get hired that way.

You want to work, don't you?
 

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
I'm the manager there. We didn't hire you because you brought an opened beer to the interview.

-Ray Dio Shaq
-General Manager
-Radio Shack Inc


Ow. ROLFLMAO. Some pee came out I think. too funny!
 

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Hell, the last 2 presidents of the USA haven't told the truth. They tell you what you want to hear. That's the way management and politics work. Of course they want YOU to tell the truth, but they don't want to tell the truth.

George Bush smoked pot, snorted coke, ran companies into the ground and is in the process of running the country into the ground. But that doesn't stop millions of clueless people from blindly supporting him.

Tell people what they want to hear and they'll like you. Simple as that.
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: archcommus
So we have some people saying to give the truth, and others saying to give them what they want. What's the answer then?

The clueless folks on here are telling you to do what you did. You won't get hired that way. I'm saying to tell them what they want to hear. You will get hired that way.

You want to work, don't you?

I call shens on your whole little story. First you assume you know what they want to here. That would completely depend on what the point of the questioning was. Are you being compare to others in the field, are they measuring your honesty, your conviction.

As to telling them what they want to here several of the test I have taken said I manipulated the test by doing so.
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Hell, the last 2 presidents of the USA haven't told the truth. They tell you what you want to hear. That's the way management and politics work. Of course they want YOU to tell the truth, but they don't want to tell the truth.

George Bush smoked pot, snorted coke, ran companies into the ground and is in the process of running the country into the ground. But that doesn't stop millions of clueless people from blindly supporting him.

Tell people what they want to hear and they'll like you. Simple as that.

Wow you are bright. I bet Dairy Queen is happy you passed the test with a perfect score.
 

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Hardcore
They probably caught you lying in the test. It's hard to 'fail' these things, unless you're a psychopath... but it's easy to catch people who are lying and trying to pass off as somebody who they aren't. You should have answered the questions as you truly saw them, and not as what you thought they wanted to hear.
You haven't read much in this thread, have you? THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT. I DID answer the truth, and I didn't pass.

No, i did... and i'm saying you're lying now to us. Are these tests perfect? No, i doubt there is a test out there that is, but from reading your first post, it sounds like you put way too much thinking into each question... there were probably some questions you answered truthfully, and then there were probably some you thought HOW you should answer... your inconsistencies caught you.

Like i said, it's hard to fail these... especially for a job like Radioshack, unless you were caught lying.
 

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Wow you are bright. I bet Dairy Queen is happy you passed the test with a perfect score.

No, Dairy Queen turned me down but I did land a job at an evil petting zoo. I did end up getting fired from there for having a relationship with a ruminant, but goats are creatures of Love.
 

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Originally posted by: archcommus
My first instinct would be to think they want the truth, but hopefully the truth isn't bad. For example, if the question is have you ever been unhappy at work, they WANT to see yes, because they know you have, but if the question is have you ever stolen or cheated, you should answer no, even if you have, because the truth is bad in that case and it's not like answering no is unbelievable.

One question, even a few question, will not label you as such. If you answer NO to 'have you ever stolen from work', and then yes to a reworded question like 'have you ever taken things from work home' and answered YES, they know you lied. Now, being caught in one inconsistency happens... you might not have thought about that as theft, but have a few inconsistencies becomes a red flag.

I told the truth, I did not try to BS my way through that test. I think what did me in is the fact that I said I prefer to be a member and not a leader, and some of the ones that were worded with the word "often," for example people often use politeness to hide their true intentions. I was thinking yeah, sure, but I should've taken more careful notice of the word "often," which makes that statement false, and by saying I agree to it, they probably think that *I* do that myself.

Again, you're trying to base the entire outcome on one question. It's not based on that. This one may seem black or white to you, but it's not... and it's how you answer the other questions within this category will tell whether you use politeness to hide your true intention or not (or whether you lied on that question).

So I would still say to answer the truth, but read them carefully, and always make it seem as if you're outgoing, energetic, and possess leadership qualities.

Again, you're trying to lie on the test. And you're not even consistent!!! And if you don't posses the ability, it's hard to lie... for example, 'a leader is somebody who knows how everything should be done, all the time'... answering YES seems obvious, but then you come to a question that is similar, 'a leader should value the opinions or suggestions of others under his command'. How will you answer this? If you really don't have leadership qualities, and you're trying to lie, you probably won't be consistent.
 

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Listen to these guys. They're 16-22 year old students who have never had a real job.
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Listen to these guys. They're 16-22 year old students who have never had a real job.

Yeah I'm 16-22. I posted a page of my results from ~7 years ago.

You are fvcking clueless. I doubt you have even taken a similar test because your theory on them is BS.
 

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Well I think the answer is pretty obviously yes to your second question, who the hell would answer no and say that a leader should not value the opinions of anyone under him?

You're not a very smart one, are you? The point was that if you did NOT have leadership quality, and was trying to lie, you would be caught by your inconsistencies because of similar, but reworded questions. I wasn't questioning whether you know the answer, just an example of how these things are set. Sorry if my question was too simple for you, it's been more than a few years since i've worked on these tests.

Should I make myself sound good or be honest? Be honest, of course. I know they can tell when I'm lying.

Riight... yes this is what you said: always make it seem as if you're outgoing, energetic, and possess leadership qualities.


So I did just that. If there were any inconsistencies at all, it was only because I interpreted the question differently the second time around because of the different wording.

If you answered incorrectly when the question was asked again but reworded, it's because you lied... you either got confuse on all the lying you've done and forgot which way to answer, or the question wasn't a trait that is instinctive to you, and you answered inconsistently with a similar, previous question. These are simple one or two line questions... they're not filled with fancy words or obscure situations. If you find your confused, it's because you're not answering truthfully and trying to answer how you think you should... and that's where you're being confused, and inconsistent. And consistency is the key, like i've said SOOO many times now.

And to think, the manager was talking to me about what our plans would be once I was hired, i.e. beginning training, etc. He thought the test was so easy that it was practically a given that I would pass. I must be one stupid fvck.

Because for positions like Radio Shack, they're not looking for somebody with the personality who can lead hundreds of others, who can motivate others with natural charisma. The test was probably real simple, seeing whether you're somebody who would commit a crime if an opportunity arose, or who lied on the test. You're in a shop with items that are probably worth thousands of dollars... at times, you'll be with one or two others, maybe even alone... they're trying to test your ethics and see if you would take advantage of any situation... and they caught you lying.

Think about it, why else did you fail that test? Because you weren't a motivated enough individual from that test? Do you really believe that? Or because you don't have enough leadership skills? For a Radio Shack position? No, it's because they caught you being inconsistent. Do yourself a favor and learn from this small mistake. Radio Shack isn't something to worry over, but it's a good experience to learn about personality tests if you've never been introduced to them before. BE HONEST. If you're not hired based on an honest result, then that job was never really suited for you anyways - doesn't fit well with your personality (if you want to read more on personality types and what jobs would fit you, read Please Understand Me II from Keirsey).
 

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Listen to these guys. They're 16-22 year old students who have never had a real job.

LOL and you're somebody who's never taken the test, let alone seen one... yeah sure, you scored 'perfect' on a personality test. LOLOL

You can't even lie well on an anonymous forum, and you expect me to believe you were able to BS a 'perfect' score (LOLOLOL) on a personality test!
 

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archcommus, you have answered your own questions. You were honest. Fine the job doesn't fit you. The other side of that is if you had lied you would likely been busted by inconsistencies. Either find the correct fit for you or work on traits that will make you more appealing.