150,000+ protest in UK against Gaza siege

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Veliko

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they are also completely ignoring everything Hamas is doing - using money for terror instead of livelihood for their citizens.

It's good that you've now realised that the protesters aren't supporting Hamas, they are protesting against the force being used by the Israeli military against the Palastinian civilians.

do you suppose that any other day of the year, when there is no fighting between Israel and Hamas, these people protest for the removal of Hamas? no. they only protest against Israel because...Israel.

This ability you have to see into the future, could you perhaps share the secret? It sounds like a truly fascinating power to possess!
 

Exophase

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This is why nothing will ever improve in that region, one side has convinced themselves they are some sort of paragon of virtue while murdering children. Then stick their military bases in the middle of civilians so they can claim that any shots back are targeting civilians. While simultaneously purposely slaughtering civilians for sport. Like those kids on the beach that were killed and you celebrate.

Okay, this appears to be what you're saying:

- Israel launched first missile attacks onto Gaza
- Gaza retaliated with rockets targeting military sites
- Since Israel places those military sites in the middle of civilian centers it looks like civilians are targeted, which Israel does to gain legitimacy to fire back
- But when Israelis do fire back it's solely because they enjoy killing civilians, anything else is an excuse

Am I misunderstanding something here? Sincerely wondering.
 

CitizenKain

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Okay, this appears to be what you're saying:

- Israel launched first missile attacks onto Gaza
- Gaza retaliated with rockets targeting military sites
- Since Israel places those military sites in the middle of civilian centers it looks like civilians are targeted, which Israel does to gain legitimacy to fire back
- But when Israelis do fire back it's solely because they enjoy killing civilians, anything else is an excuse

Am I misunderstanding something here? Sincerely wondering.

No
-Israel kidnapped / "arrested" hundreds of people after the teenagers were killed
-Rockets were launched towards whatever
-Israel is a fortified country with bases all over, letting them claim that any attack at all is against the civilian population
-They fire at anything for any reason, they generally don't care if civilians are anywhere near whatever they are shooting at.
 

cabri

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No
-Israel kidnapped / "arrested" hundreds of people after the teenagers were killed
-Rockets were launched towards whatever
-Israel is a fortified country with bases all over, letting them claim that any attack at all is against the civilian population
-They fire at anything for any reason, they generally don't care if civilians are anywhere near whatever they are shooting at.

1) Israel should ignore that the teens were kidnapped and then executed? Did the Palestinians try to locate the boys and/or do anything about the kidnappers? Israel was able to finally identify who the kidnappers were, wonder how?
2) What about the 200+ rockets that had been launched previously in 2014 alone?
3) Gaza is also a fortified area; Hamas has weapons depots, weapons factories, tunnels and command centers all over; many are also in "untouchable" locations. This allows Hamas to claim that Israel is targeting the civilians. Do you have documentation that Israel has munitions in hospitals and temples, schools.
4) And Hamas is different; they would never be targeting nuclear facilities and civilian airports.

Israel has to clean out Hamas if the people in Gaza want any type of future. As of now, what is Hamas offering but worse despair. They ask for a truce; but then fire rockets (or allow them to be fired) as if there is any distinction.

This last month has shown the hypocrisy of Hamas and yet the people of the world are PR blitzed that the IDF is the one in the wrong.