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Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

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Also, of note is that when carrier exclusivity goes away in other countries, the carrier losing exclusivity has done fairly well, and if you noticed, ATT just raised the smartphone ETF fee to $375 IIRC...
 
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Pliablemoose said:
I guess it was "There will be a huge number of ATT refugees."

So if that happens, if you add the current and the potential customers, that's a shitload of iPhones sold...
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If my aunt had a ... , she'd be my uncle. Who knows what the competitive landscape will be like if/when there is iPhone for Verizon.

It does look like these people don't want iPhone enough to switch to AT&T, so their preference for iPhone is weaker than their preference for Verizon.
 
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senseamp said:
If my aunt had a ... , she'd be my uncle. Who knows what the competitive landscape will be like if/when there is iPhone for Verizon.

It does look like these people don't want iPhone enough to switch to AT&T, so their preference for iPhone is weaker than their preference for Verizon.
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According to these guys here they are just settling then cus them not getting a iPhone means they are settling for something less. These guys say that the iPhone is the holy grail of phones so it doesn`t matter if they wanted a feature the iPhone didn`t have like multi-tasking, wireless syncing, etc etc, they settled for something inferior. They didn`t get something that had more features for them, they settled for something inferior cus it`s not an iPhone.
 
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Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

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senseamp said:
If my aunt had a ... , she'd be my uncle. Who knows what the competitive landscape will be like if/when there is iPhone for Verizon.

It does look like these people don't want iPhone enough to switch to AT&T, so their preference for iPhone is weaker than their preference for Verizon.
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Corporate training today, 4 iPhones, 1 BB Pearl, 1 N1 at my table of 8, +2 dumbphones.

All the iPhone users were talking about the new iPhone HD or whatever the hell Steve calls it and how they would be upgrading, the BB user was bitching about her BB (on Verizon) and the only Android user was tethering using Froyo to his iPad. :D
 
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charrison

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dwell said:
Keep in mind the entire iPhone ecosystem. The iPod Touch is outselling the iPhone and now the iPad is selling ~2.5M units a quarter. So Apple is dumping something like 22M devices capable of running iPhone software on the market a quarter. If Android is indeed doing 100k a day, the iPhone software ecosystem is still doing over double that.

There is no iPod Touch analog in the Android world which is not something to ignore. It's one of the main reason why gaming is booming on the iPhone. A lot of little kids who have outgrown the DS now have iPod Touches.
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The apple ecosystem is without a doubt large and they do leverage the touches. However even apple knows there is limited to time on these devices as they get replaced with phones.
 
theeedude

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Pliablemoose said:
Corporate training today, 4 iPhones, 1 BB Pearl, 1 N1 at my table of 8, +2 dumbphones.

All the iPhone users were talking about the new iPhone HD or whatever the hell Steve calls it and how they would be upgrading, the BB user was bitching about her BB (on Verizon) and the only Android user was tethering using Froyo to his iPad. :D
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Cool story, bro. Do you mind if I tell it at parties and pretend that was me?
 
Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

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charrison said:
I believe apple has already said the end is coming for portable music devices. Given the growth in smart phones, this should not be to hard to beleive.
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I just couldn't figure out WTF you said. It was worded quite awkwardly.

So now, it's not just iPhones that won't sell, it's iPod Touches?
 
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charrison

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Pliablemoose said:
I just couldn't figure out WTF you said. It was worded quite awkwardly.

So now, it's not just iPhones that won't sell, it's iPod Touches?
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Your right. I did butcher that.


I have not said neither are going to sell. The only thing I have said is that if apple keeps to one carrier they could find themselves a much smaller player in the future.


I have a ipod touch here and I dont plan on buying another anytime in the near future as it has been replaced by more capable device. This is not a comment on the quality of the touch, just the reality that the market demand are changing.
 
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charrison said:
I believe apple has already said the end is coming for portable music devices. Given the growth in smart phones, this should not be to hard to beleive.
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I think Apple has said the legacy ipod line is slowly fading away, but that the ipod touch sales are showing robust growth. IIRC, quarterly numbers bear this out...

Of course this development is good for the 'ecosystem.'
 
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charrison

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TheWart said:
I think Apple has said the legacy ipod line is slowly fading away, but that the ipod touch sales are showing robust growth. IIRC, quarterly numbers bear this out...

Of course this development is good for the 'ecosystem.'
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Maybe that is what was said. But I dont think it will be mcuh longer before those replaced with smart phones.
 
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dwell

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charrison said:
Maybe that is what was said. But I dont think it will be mcuh longer before those replaced with smart phones.
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I disagree. Apple did a very smart thing with the Touch by having a device available which runs their software without a phone being melded to it. The fact that the Touch sells more than the iPhone just proves it.
 
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charrison

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dwell said:
I disagree. Apple did a very smart thing with the Touch by having a device available which runs their software without a phone being melded to it. The fact that the Touch sells more than the iPhone just proves it.
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I dont disagree that it was a very smart move. however every smart phone that is sold is going to displace a possible ipod touch sale.
 
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dwell

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charrison said:
I dont disagree that it was a very smart move. however every smart phone that is sold is going to displace a possible ipod touch sale.
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There will always be a large market for devices like the iPod Touch. The beauty of the iPod Touch is that it's a one-time payment of $199 - $399. If you buy a smart phone you'll get the phone from anywhere from $0 - $199 but at the end of the day with a two-year contract you end up paying thousands of dollars in the long run.
 
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charrison

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dwell said:
There will always be a large market for devices like the iPod Touch. The beauty of the iPod Touch is that it's a one-time payment of $199 - $399. If you buy a smart phone you'll get the phone from anywhere from $0 - $199 but at the end of the day with a two-year contract you end up paying thousands of dollars in the long run.
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But if you buying a smartphone anyway, you will not need an ipod touch. The more smart phones that ae sold, the less demand there is going to be for ipod touches and other music players.
 
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TheWart

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charrison said:
But if you buying a smartphone anyway, you will not need an ipod touch. The more smart phones that ae sold, the less demand there is going to be for ipod touches and other music players.
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This is true in theory, but look at the size of the smartphone market compared to the 'dumbphone' market. It is going to take quite a while before the majority, much less a significant majority, of people have a smartphone.
 
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Pliablemoose said:
Corporate training today, 4 iPhones, 1 BB Pearl, 1 N1 at my table of 8, +2 dumbphones.

All the iPhone users were talking about the new iPhone HD or whatever the hell Steve calls it and how they would be upgrading, the BB user was bitching about her BB (on Verizon) and the only Android user was tethering using Froyo to his iPad. :D
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egh, come on, you know anecdotal evidence like this is worthless. Corporate training for me is likely to be 6 windows mobile phones, 2 blackberries, 2 androids, and an iPhone....but you don't see me throwing it out there like it matters.
 
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charrison

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TheWart said:
This is true in theory, but look at the size of the smartphone market compared to the 'dumbphone' market. It is going to take quite a while before the majority, much less a significant majority, of people have a smartphone.
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Yes the dumb phone market is shrinking and people are moving to smartphones in a big way.
 
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TheWart

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charrison said:
Yes the dumb phone market is shrinking and people are moving to smartphones in a big way.
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In 2009 172 million smartphones were sold. In the same year 1.2 billion dumbphones were sold.


Like I said, it is going to be quite a while before the ubiquity of smartphones obviate the need/utility for portable music devices.
 
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