100k Android phones activated daily!

[dwell]

Really what apps can you not find replacements for?

Few ones I used regularly:

- Eliminate
- Fieldrunners
- FourTrack
- GuitarToolkit
- IMDB
- iStrobosoft
- Pac-Man CE
- Plants vs Zombies
- Tab Toolkit
- Tempo
- The Creeps
- Ultimate Guitar
- Wolfram|Alpha
- Yahoo Music

For games, Android is far, far behind. For specialized apps (I use a lot of music apps) Android has little to offer over iPhone. For basics like Facebook, Pandroa, Twitter, etc it's hit-and-miss.

It's a one-way street too. Seldom is a killer app on Android and not on the iPhone. The only exception I can think of is Google Voice (which is available as a web app on the iPhone anyway).

I will agree that iphone apps tend to better at this point, but that is a point that is not going to last much longer.

I don't think so. The more I delve into Android development, the more I realize why most apps don't look and feel so nice compared to iPhone apps.

 

[charrison]

Few ones I used regularly:

- Eliminate
- Fieldrunners
- FourTrack
- GuitarToolkit
- IMDB
- iStrobosoft
- Pac-Man CE
- Plants vs Zombies
- Tab Toolkit
- Tempo
- The Creeps
- Ultimate Guitar
- Wolfram|Alpha
- Yahoo Music

For games, Android is far, far behind. For specialized apps (I use a lot of music apps) Android has little to offer over iPhone. For basics like Facebook, Pandroa, Twitter, etc it's hit-and-miss.

Android is behind, but it is catching up very rapidly. The sales number are going to push this. The basics that most people use are already there. Facebook, pandora, twitter are all there. IMDB iis there and as are pacman games. There is flood of apps coming to android market and google is helping those big missing apps get ported.

It's a one-way street too. Seldom is a killer app on Android and not on the iPhone. The only exception I can think of is Google Voice (which is available as a web app on the iPhone anyway).

I wont disagree with this. Iphone still hast he dominant market share, but at current sales rates is going to quickly lose a dominant position.Android is becoming far to large to ignore.

I don't think so. The more I delve into Android development, the more I realize why most apps don't look and feel so nice compared to iPhone apps.

I have looked at both SDKs, I dont see much difference in what they are capable of. Iphone devs just have a head start right now.

 

[zerocool84]

I am sure *some* potential iPhone sales are going to Android, but not in any way to make a significant dent in sales. People want a iPhone because of the brand. Anyone who wants an iPhone and ends up with an Android phone is pretty much settling.

Lol they are just settling cus in no way shape or form does Android offer any advantages over iPhone? Cus to you there`s nothing an Android phone does that an iPhone can`t do. It could go the same way that someone who is looking at an Android and gets an iPhone is just settling. The iPhone does less so they are settling. Obviously with your train of thought there`s nothing anyone can say and the iPhone does everything anyone could ever want in a phone. No doubt about it.

 

[dwell]

Lol they are just settling cus in no way shape or form does Android offer any advantages over iPhone? Cus to you there`s nothing an Android phone does that an iPhone can`t do. It could go the same way that someone who is looking at an Android and gets an iPhone is just settling. The iPhone does less so they are settling. Obviously with your train of thought there`s nothing anyone can say and the iPhone does everything anyone could ever want in a phone. No doubt about it.

I said, anyone looking for an iPhone (specifically) and ending up with an Android device is settling. It's like going to get a MacBook Pro and ending up with a Dell. It's not what they wanted.

 

[jpeyton]

100,000 people "settling" for an Android phone per day.

That can't make Steve happy about his exclusivity agreement with AT&T.

 

[QueBert]

Really what apps can you not find replacements for?

I will agree that iphone apps tend to better at this point, but that is a point that is not going to last much longer.

So what, Android apps are magically going to get that much better? It's not like the Android marketplace opened up last week. It's been around a good while and the apps aren't getting any better really. I have a Droid and the apps for it are complete shit compared to the ones I used on my iPhone. I don't see this changing, the best I see is the marketplace getting a shit ton more apps. But unless a miracle happens the quality will always be in Apples court. I have plenty of apps on my iPod Touch that have no Android version or even equivalent.

Explain to me how the apps are going to get that much better anytime soon? I don't see it happening. Basically it will come down to the marketplace having more apps than Apples store and that will be what Android owners brag about. Any of them who brag about quality are just Apple haters. Windows Mobile 7 has a better chance of dominating the market than marketplace apps measuring up anytime soon.

 

[dwell]

100,000 people "settling" for an Android phone per day.

That can't make Steve happy about his exclusivity agreement with AT&T.

8.75 million iPhones sold last quarter = 97,222 sold a day. Not bad for one device on one carrier. That combined with 200k iPads reportedly being sold a week and the iPod Touch sales means the iPhone ecosystem is laying the smackdown on Android.

What's going to happen if Verzion gets added to the mix?

 

[charrison]

So what, Android apps are magically going to get that much better? It's not like the Android marketplace opened up last week. It's been around a good while and the apps aren't getting any better really. I have a Droid and the apps for it are complete shit compared to the ones I used on my iPhone. I don't see this changing, the best I see is the marketplace getting a shit ton more apps. But unless a miracle happens the quality will always be in Apples court. I have plenty of apps on my iPod Touch that have no Android version or even equivalent.

Explain to me how the apps are going to get that much better anytime soon? I don't see it happening. Basically it will come down to the marketplace having more apps than Apples store and that will be what Android owners brag about. Any of them who brag about quality are just Apple haters. Windows Mobile 7 has a better chance of dominating the market than marketplace apps measuring up anytime soon.

Well I have a droid eris for a couple months now. The apps I have installed get updated on a regular basis. Runkeeper got ported recently. Things are moving forward and fairly quickly.

 

[charrison]

8.75 million iPhones sold last quarter = 97,222 sold a day. Not bad for one device on one carrier. That combined with 200k iPads reportedly being sold a day and the iPod Touch sales means the iPhone ecosystem is laying the smackdown on Android.

What's going to happen if Verzion gets added to the mix?

For that number that is not one device one carrier. That is world wide stats.

 

[dwell]

For that number that is not one device one carrier. That is world wide stats.

True, but so is the 100k/day Android number. Plus the Android one includes free phones and BOGOs, which makes the iPhone number all the more impressive.

 

[charrison]

True, but so is the 100k/day Android number. Plus the Android one includes free phones and BOGOs, which makes the iPhone number all the more impressive.

As state before the phones are not free. We almost switched carriers for the iphone, the difference in cost was almost nothing in the end. Free phones on verizon and high monthly cost or pay up front on att and lower monthly cost. People are paying for those free phones.

 

[jpeyton]

8.75 million iPhones sold last quarter = 97,222 sold a day. Not bad for one device on one carrier. That combined with 200k iPads reportedly being sold a day and the iPod Touch sales means the iPhone ecosystem is laying the smackdown on Android.

The global smartphone horse race isn't even past turn and Android is already catching the market leader. And Android is coming to tablets, set-top boxes, and even cars. The worldwide cellular market is somewhere north of 4.6 billion users, and Apple will price/lock their iPhone OS devices out of the hands of most of them, while Android devices will be everywhere at all price points within a year or two.

What's going to happen if Verzion gets added to the mix?

Price competition. Apple will be sharing shelf space with multiple Android devices, and I'm betting the Android devices will be cutting prices first, which is great for consumers.

 

[dwell]

As state before the phones are not free. We almost switched carriers for the iphone, the difference in cost was almost nothing in the end. Free phones on verizon and high monthly cost or pay up front on att and lower monthly cost. People are paying for those free phones.

Yes, but the up-front cost for any iPhone is $99 - $299.

 

[dwell]

The global smartphone horse race isn't even past turn and Android is already catching the market leader. And Android is coming to tablets, set-top boxes, and even cars. The worldwide cellular market is somewhere north of 4.6 billion users, and Apple will price/lock their iPhone OS devices out of the hands of most of them, while Android devices will be everywhere at all price points within a year or two.

Why don't you write to this thread when and if that happens? You keep talking about Android's potential when for all you know it could putter out around the iPhone's market share percentage.

Price competition. Apple will be sharing shelf space with multiple Android devices, and I'm betting the Android devices will be cutting prices first, which is great for consumers.

They are already giving Android phones away and doing BOGOs and iPhone is keeping up fine with no refresh in over a year.

 

[zerocool84]

I said, anyone looking for an iPhone (specifically) and ending up with an Android device is settling. It's like going to get a MacBook Pro and ending up with a Dell. It's not what they wanted.

Like I said, to you, there`s no reason anyone in the world would want any other phone for any reason over an iPhone or any product over an Apple product. You obviously cannot have a reasonable discussion at all. Why would anyone compare something to an Apple product then not choose the Apple product? To you there is no reason one someone would want to do that which is why you cannot have a rational discussion.

 

[charrison]

Yes, but the up-front cost for any iPhone is $99 - $299.

But the cost is the same in the end. Those phones are not free.

 

[dwell]

To you there is no reason one someone would want to do that which is why you cannot have a rational discussion.

As far as smartphones go the iPhone is the gold standard. Android is an open-source imitation. Android its own merit true, but anyone who has their heart set on getting an iPhone because of the apps, etc, is not going to get an Android in most cases.

 

[dwell]

But the cost is the same in the end. Those phones are not free.

Yes, I know that. But to the consumer it's "free" and that's how carriers move a lot of phones.

 

[charrison]

Yes, I know that. But to the consumer it's "free" and that's how carriers move a lot of phones.

They are not free, and consumers in general know that. So it not terribly accurate to call them free.

 

[Bateluer]

Anyone else amused watching the iPhone fanatics defend their sinking ship?

The facts are clear, Android based handsets have overtaken two market leaders, Apple and Microsoft, within the span of a few months. And there's no sign of slowdown.

 

[theeedude]

As far as smartphones go the iPhone is the gold standard. Android is an open-source imitation. Android its own merit true, but anyone who has their heart set on getting an iPhone because of the apps, etc, is not going to get an Android in most cases.

I am sure tears are being shed in Mountain View on account of that, just like tears were shed in Redmond that some Apple fanbois thought Windows was just an inferior imitation of the "gold standard" MacOS, or that people who had their heart set on buying a Mac bought one resulting in less than 100% market share for MS
Google doesn't need Apple fans to validate Android. Get over it already.

 

[dwell]

Anyone else amused watching the iPhone fanatics defend their sinking ship?

Anyone else amused by the hyperbole tossed around by Android fanboys? Sinking ship? Really?

The facts are clear, Android based handsets have overtaken two market leaders, Apple and Microsoft, within the span of a few months. And there's no sign of slowdown.

Last I checked Android is nowhere near Apple's global market share. Feel free to post the NPD result where Android narrowly beat iPhone in the US only for one month with multiple devices on multiple carriers. That's a fanboy favorite 'round here.

And if Android does overtake Apple one day, what does that even mean? Do iPhones disappear from the face of the Earth? Apple built a healthy hardware market with less than 10% of the PC industry. They have a lucrative operation with 15% of the smartphone industry.

And with all the Android phones shipping, why is the software situation still so dire compared to the iPhone software market? Us "iPhone fanatics" really won't start panicking until we see the iPhone developer community start to shrink. At this point it's only growing and for every day that goes by more and more people are buying iPhone apps and cementing the iPhone's position in the industry. Android is about two years late to that party and the lack of developer support proves it.

 

[dwell]

I am sure tears are being shed in Mountain View on account of that, just like tears were shed in Redmond that some Apple fanbois thought Windows was just an inferior imitation of the "gold standard" MacOS, or that people who had their heart set on buying a Mac bought one resulting in less than 100% market share for MS
Google doesn't need Apple fans to validate Android. Get over it already.

Another false dichotomy Android fanboys throw around is that the situation will mirror that of Windows 1.x vs Mac OS. They fail to take into account that when the Windows vs Mac thing happened there where not two other HUGE players in the market with more marketshare than Microsoft and Apple combined then multiplied by three. Lest you forget: RIM 19% and Symbian 44%.

 

[QueBert]

Anyone else amused watching the iPhone fanatics defend their sinking ship?

The facts are clear, Android based handsets have overtaken two market leaders, Apple and Microsoft, within the span of a few months. And there's no sign of slowdown.

80K+ handsets a day is a sinking ship? LOL, most cell phone makers would kill to sell that many phones a day. Never mind there isn't a single phone on the market that sells as well as the iPhone. If it was iPhone Vs any one Android handset it wouldn't even be close. No surprise that a dozen Android devices on every carrier can outsell 1 iPhone model. To make it fair, you should compare the Incredible on Verizon against the iPhone. A true 1 on 1 scenario. Which is selling better now? And what will you say about this "sinking ship" when the 4G comes out and it outsells all Android devices combined.

 

[Pliablemoose]

dwell is right, Apple isn't going anywhere.

2 million + iPads sold, a new phone coming out that's prety solid, apps that work well, iTunes selling 25%+ of all the music sold in the US, a line up of computers that sells like hotcakes...

It would be great to have such horrible problems.

The funny thing is watching Google throwing down with Google TV. I'd put money on it being a massive flop... Anyone remember WebTV?