10 secrets of thin people

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
11. Two fingers...one uvula

yeh, well there's anorexia too, but this isn't about mental illnesses.

Well I always associate "skinny" with unhealthy. "Thin" is nicer.

fixed for you.

:heart:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: moshquerade
elaborate please.

Those ten ideas are great ideals to follow. But it is just plain false to think that skinny people do them all, or even do a majority of them.

I'm a lifelong skinny person myself. The only ones in that list that have been true for most of my life are #5, #7, and #9. At times I do some of the others, but that has nothing to do with my weight.

1) Skinny people don't diet to lose weight, that is true, because they really can't lose weight and often don't want to. But they do have a diet. This statement is akin to saying "people who are safe from elephant attack don't wear clothes from the Gap." Technically, that elephant statement may be true, but people who are safe from elephant attacks also wear clothes from the Gap. So the opposite is true as well.

I think what they are saying is dieting doesn't work as far as keeping weight off. diets always fail. you have to develop good eating habits for life, not go on starvation/crazy diets.

2) I know very few people who actually weigh themselves regularly. About the only thing they know is if they can fit into their clothes. If so, they are still skinny.

3) Regular exercise is again poorly described in that article. They state that most people who lost weight and kept it off used exercise. But that is a far cry from the statement that skinny people exercise regularly.

4) This one is probably truer than the rest. Although there are both skinny and fat people who are stress eaters and there are both skinny and fat people who are stress non-eaters.

5) This one is probably truer than the rest. The main difference between a skinny and a non-skinny is that the skinny people keep their food intake under control. But many skinny people stuff themselves in one big meal then skip the rest of the meals in the day. It is perferred to eat many small meals, but it isn't necessary.

6) Skinny people have temptations all around. It is just that they have learned to be tempted by healthier foods.

I think it means skinny people don't have chips/candy in their cupboards more than anything.

7) True. Most skinny people treat themselves. They have learned that it isn't WHAT you eat but instead it is HOW MUCH of it do you eat. Skinny people will eat a chocolate cake, but they usually won't eat the whole cake in one sitting (whereas many non-skinny people do).

8) The breakfast myth needs to end. It was started by advertisements from cereal companies and suddenly turned into mainstream "wisdom". The problem is that the "wisdom" just has never proven to be true. Many skinny people eat breakfast. But many skinny people skip it as well. The article again makes the false connection. Just because people who lose weight tend to eat breakfast doesn't mean that skinny people tend to eat breakfast. The cause and effects are not properly discussed here.

Breakfast gets our metabolism going. I know it makes me feel more awake and ready to go. A revved metabolism is going to burn calories.

9) As far as I know this is true.

10) This is a good guideline, but many skinny people skip meals. They just often have their meals at a different time.

By the sounds of it I don't think you came up with as many absolutely false ones as you thought.

 

[RedRooster]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: edro
11. They are born with a high metabolism.

:thumbsup:

12. They have better genes and are the chosen ones to continue mating and keep our species prosperous. FAT PEOPLE PLEASE STOP HAVING KIDS ITS SELFISH AND YOU'LL JUST FEED THEM CHICKEN FINGER UNTIL THEY ARE FAT LIKE YOU THANKS.

13. They have small bones.

 

[finite automaton]

These are all true for me

 

[CKent]

I know one of those skinny people. At first it's easy to think they're blessed, but if you watch them they either a) eat unhealthy food in very small portions or b) eat lots of unhealthy food then don't eat for a few days. Calories in vs. calories out is pretty simple math, anyone who genetically deviated far enough for it to make a significant impact on their weight would either be constantly sweating or would always be freezing and have to have the heat cranked to 80.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
By the sounds of it I don't think you came up with as many absolutely false ones as you thought.

I'm skinny and 3 of the 10 apply to me. One person's example is enough to correctly state that most are false. The reverse isn't true, one person's example is never enough to state that anything is true.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: moshquerade
By the sounds of it I don't think you came up with as many absolutely false ones as you thought.

I'm skinny and 3 of the 10 apply to me. One person's example is enough to correctly state that most are false. The reverse isn't true, one person's example is never enough to state that anything is true.

How old are you? Do you think you can maintain skinny for life doing what you are presently doing?

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
How old are you? Do you think you can maintain skinny for life doing what you are presently doing?

I'm nearly 32. I'm 5'9" and as of last week I was 152 lbs. I am 2 lbs lower than my all time high of 154 lbs. But, I have for the last 3 years been trying to increase my weight. Specifically I want to gain muscle mass. I was 125 lbs from about the age 13-29. In the last 3 years, #2 and #3 are true because I am keeping track of my weight and exercising to GAIN weight.

No, I don't think I'll stay the same weight for the rest of my life nor do I think I'll maintain what I'm presently. I will one day stop trying to gain weight. At that point, I will have to change my habits.

Oh, and go back and look at the nutrition information for chips. You'll be surprised. For example, eat your daily intake of calories from corn chips and salsa and eat nothing else. If you did that, you'd have eaten far TOO LITTLE fat.

 

[Jeff7]

Secrets of some people, maybe.


1. They don't diet - I just forget to eat a lot, sometimes for more than 8 hours.
2. They keep track of their weight - yeah, if I'm not careful, I can drop more than 5lbs in a week. I'm already technically underweight.
3. They exercise regularly - I shall refrain from excessive laughter at this.
4. They don't solve problems with food - O RLY? Mmmm, Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookie ice cream.
5. They stop eating when they're full - yup, pretty much, I hate the feeling of overeating, it's quite uncomfortable. (A quantity of food equal to 3 or more McDonalds-style cheeseburgers is generally enough to cause this sort of discomfort.)
6. They don't surround themselves with temptation - Within reach I have Oreos, cheese curls, and Cocoa Puffs.
7. They allow themselves treats - hell yeah.
8. They eat breakfast - dear god yes.
9. They move, stand and fidget more Fidget? Yes. Move? No.
10. They don't skip meals - I will sometimes skip lunch and supper, depending on my schedule for the day. Or, to clarify, sometimes lunch and supper get pushed back into one meal, coming around 12-14 hrs after breakfast.


5' 7.5", 125lbs.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
1. They don't diet - True for me
2. They keep track of their weight - Not me
3. They exercise regularly - Not regularly but I do exercise
4. They don't solve problems with food - Booze for me
5. They stop eating when they're full - Hell no, I eat until I am sick if the food is good!
6. They don't surround themselves with temptation - Dunno about this one as I am never tempted by food
7. They allow themselves treats - I dont eat to many sweets
8. They eat breakfast - I haven't eaten breakfast in over 20 years
9. They move, stand and fidget more - Yes, I move all the time
10. They don't skip meals - I usually skip lunch as I am always busy and by the time I think about lunch its usually near dinner time.

I am not skinny anymore but I am not fat. Im in my 40s and 35 of those years I have been fairly skinny. I am always on the go so I think that is why I am not overweight. I am now 5'10.5" and weight anywhere between 165-180 at various times of the year. But most of my weight is in my calves and thighs as I run, mountain bike, skateboard and swim a lot.

http://health.msn.com/nutritio...d=100218116>1=31036

 

[finite automaton]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: moshquerade
How old are you? Do you think you can maintain skinny for life doing what you are presently doing?

I'm nearly 32. I'm 5'9" and as of last week I was 152 lbs. I am 2 lbs lower than my all time high of 154 lbs. But, I have for the last 3 years been trying to increase my weight. Specifically I want to gain muscle mass. I was 125 lbs from about the age 13-29. In the last 3 years, #2 and #3 are true because I am keeping track of my weight and exercising to GAIN weight.

No, I don't think I'll stay the same weight for the rest of my life nor do I think I'll maintain what I'm presently. I will one day stop trying to gain weight. At that point, I will have to change my habits.

Oh, and go back and look at the nutrition information for chips. You'll be surprised. For example, eat your daily intake of calories from corn chips and salsa and eat nothing else. If you did that, you'd have eaten far TOO LITTLE fat.

You are a bit skinnier than I am. Maybe I do not qualify as skinny. 5'8 165 (goal: 155). Restarted my exercise routine last month. My all-time recorded high was 197.

Edit: I turn 24 in march.

 

[richardycc]

0. they are not fat to begin with.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: moshquerade
How old are you? Do you think you can maintain skinny for life doing what you are presently doing?

I'm nearly 32. I'm 5'9" and as of last week I was 152 lbs. I am 2 lbs lower than my all time high of 154 lbs. But, I have for the last 3 years been trying to increase my weight. Specifically I want to gain muscle mass. I was 125 lbs from about the age 13-29. In the last 3 years, #2 and #3 are true because I am keeping track of my weight and exercising to GAIN weight.

No, I don't think I'll stay the same weight for the rest of my life nor do I think I'll maintain what I'm presently. I will one day stop trying to gain weight. At that point, I will have to change my habits.

Oh, and go back and look at the nutrition information for chips. You'll be surprised. For example, eat your daily intake of calories from corn chips and salsa and eat nothing else. If you did that, you'd have eaten far TOO LITTLE fat.

I don't know that you are the skinny people they are actually referring to. What I mean is... you don't really have to do anything to maintain your weight, in fact, you want to gain.

I think those 10 "secrets" were for people who stay skinny by working at it.

 

[vi edit]

9/10

I've got buckets of crap food laying around the house. Most of it is from gifts/stuff my wife brings home. I just don't have a lot of desire to eat it, and if I do, I don't eat a lot of junk at one sitting. Same thing at work. I've got Christmas baskets full of junk laying around with candies, cookies, ect and I'll grab one cookie or candy for the day and call it good. No real desire to stuff my face full of junk.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
I don't know that you are the skinny people they are actually referring to. What I mean is... you don't really have to do anything to maintain your weight, in fact, you want to gain.

I think those 10 "secrets" were for people who stay skinny by working at it.

I'll agree there. Those are 10 secrets of people who lost weight and maintained the weight loss. That is different from secrets of people who are skinny for their whole life.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
1. They don't diet
2. They keep track of their weight
3. They exercise regularly
4. They don't solve problems with food
5. They stop eating when they're full
6. They don't surround themselves with temptation
7. They allow themselves treats
8. They eat breakfast
9. They move, stand and fidget more
10. They don't skip meals

http://health.msn.com/nutritio...id=100218116&GT1=31036

Eh, most of those are wrong for me.

I'm not thin, but i'm pretty close to.

1. I don't diet
2. No, i do not keep track
3. No, i do not exercise, though my summertime hobbies of biking/blading don't hurt.
4. I don't solve problems with food.
5. Not even close. Sometimes i stop when i'm hungry, other times i stuff myself.
6. Well, the fridge is usually empty so i guess that's sorta true...course i usually snack then instead.
7. Yes
8. Yes
9. Yes
10 LOL i skip them all the time...sometimes only eat 1.5 times a day or less

 

[dullard]

If I were to make a list, I'd do this:

1) Being skinny is a lifestyle. You can't live your present lifestyle and lose weight. If you want to become skinny, you must change your lifestyle.

2) Losing weight requires you to eat less. Plain and simple. There is no other way around it. Fat people claim to want to eat whatever they crave, but in reality they want to eat as much as they crave. Until they learn the difference, they will not be able to lose weight. It isn't what you eat, but how much of what you eat.

3) Fiber, fiber, fiber. ANY study that includes a high fiber study has shown the high fiber diet to be the biggest weight loss diet over the long term. Not atkins, not low-fat, not low-calorie, no any other diet has been able to beat a high fiber diet. Sadly, most studies don't include a high-fiber diet and thus come to conclusions that another diet is the best.

With fiber, you can eat as much of the fiberous food as you want. That satisfies the "eat as much as you crave" need. Then, the fiber goes right through you undigested. If you get a proper mix of soluble and insoluble fiber, then as that fiber passes through you it clings to other food that you would otherwise digest. Eat a candy bar, and you'll digest all of it. Eat a candy bar and something that is high fiber and you'll only digest a portion of that candy bar and the rest will pass right through you. That is, you eat more but digest less. Plus, fiber tends to expand in your stomach, making you feel full for hours.

Fat people tend to eat 5-10 grams of fiber a day at most. The US recommended level for fiber is 25 grams a day. Many nutritionists will tell you that 50 grams a day is optimal based upon study data.

4) Exercise helps to control appetite. But it alone won't solve your problems. You can't exercise your way thin if you ignore #1 through #3 above. Include exercise in your weight loss plan, but don't think you can reward your 10 minute walk with a box of cookies.

5) Don't fall for traps. Suppose a cookie is 200 calories and 10 grams of fat. Suppose a fat person normally will eat 2 of them. That is 400 calories and 20 grams of fat (about 1/5th to 1/6th of the total daily amout s/he should eat). Suppose that person "diets" and buys the low fat cookies at 200 calories each and 5 grams of fat. Most fat people will eat 5 of these since the cookies satisfy them less and since they can reward themselves for eating "low fat" foods. Now, that fat person just consumed 1000 calories and 25 grams of fat. He/she just ate MORE fat and MORE calories than before AND still probably wasn't satisfied since he/she was really craving the full fat variety. Same goes with low calorie crap - they are just traps.

The way to avoid the trap is to change your lifestyle. Eat the full fat stuff to satisfy your craving. But eat one cookie instead of two. If that leaves you hungry, then you need to make your previous meal bigger next time so you won't need to snack on two cookies. Don't change what you eat (it is usually a trap). Instead, change how much you eat of the bad things. To fill the gap, put in a few high fiber healthy items.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: dullard
3) Fiber, fiber, fiber. ANY study that includes a high fiber study has shown the high fiber diet to be the biggest weight loss diet over the long term. Not atkins, not low-fat, not low-calorie, no any other diet has been able to beat a high fiber diet. Sadly, most studies don't include a high-fiber diet and thus come to conclusions that another diet is the best.

With fiber, you can eat as much of the fiberous food as you want. That satisfies the "eat as much as you crave" need. Then, the fiber goes right through you undigested. If you get a proper mix of soluble and insoluble fiber, then as that fiber passes through you it clings to other food that you would otherwise digest. Eat a candy bar, and you'll digest all of it. Eat a candy bar and something that is high fiber and you'll only digest a portion of that candy bar and the rest will pass right through you. That is, you eat more but digest less. Plus, fiber tends to expand in your stomach, making you feel full for hours.

Fat people tend to eat 5-10 grams of fiber a day at most. The US recommended level for fiber is 25 grams a day. Many nutritionists will tell you that 50 grams a day is optimal based upon study data.

I don't even know what foods have fiber in them.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: dullard
3) Fiber, fiber, fiber. ANY study that includes a high fiber study has shown the high fiber diet to be the biggest weight loss diet over the long term. Not atkins, not low-fat, not low-calorie, no any other diet has been able to beat a high fiber diet. Sadly, most studies don't include a high-fiber diet and thus come to conclusions that another diet is the best.

With fiber, you can eat as much of the fiberous food as you want. That satisfies the "eat as much as you crave" need. Then, the fiber goes right through you undigested. If you get a proper mix of soluble and insoluble fiber, then as that fiber passes through you it clings to other food that you would otherwise digest. Eat a candy bar, and you'll digest all of it. Eat a candy bar and something that is high fiber and you'll only digest a portion of that candy bar and the rest will pass right through you. That is, you eat more but digest less. Plus, fiber tends to expand in your stomach, making you feel full for hours.

Fat people tend to eat 5-10 grams of fiber a day at most. The US recommended level for fiber is 25 grams a day. Many nutritionists will tell you that 50 grams a day is optimal based upon study data.

I don't even know what foods have fiber in them.

Whole grains, oats, oat bran, etc...

 

[vi edit]

50 grams of fiber would be tough without some sort of supplement.

You can get 9 grams for breakfast eating a bowl of colon destroying Kashi cereal.
For a snack you could have an apple for another 5.

Lunch would need something whole grain/fiber added for another 5-10 + maybe a salad for a another 2-3 grams.

You can have a fiber bar snack for another 9.

That leaves me still needing like 10+ grams at dinner/night snack.

Without eating a side of beans or having 3 fiber one bars in a day, that's a very hard task to achieve.

And I regularly eat 25 grams a day of fiber.

 

[OUCaptain]

I'm thin and I find less than half to be true.

Should have read "10 secrets of thin, healthy, and in shape people"

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
I don't even know what foods have fiber in them.

Fiber is what you can't digest. An easy example is corn kernals. Have you ever looked at your stool after eating corn? If so, you'll see what appears to be fully undigested corn in there. In reality, you digested much of the center of the corn, but the skin passes right through and still looks like a whole corn kernal.

Think seeds and skins: berry seeds (strawberries, raspberries, sunflowers), fruit skins (apples, pears, raisins).

Think whole grains: oats, rye, whole-grain wheat, barley, bran, etc. Whole grains were the diet of people for thousands of years (and most were thin). But when was the last time you ATE barley (not drink it).

Think nuts and legumes: peas, lentils, black beans, pistachios, pecans.

Think vegetables: broccoli, corn, potatoes (with the skin), tomatoes.

A very tasty start to high-fiber is Fiber One Oats and Peanut Butter bars. You get 9 grams a bar and everyone who I've convinced to try them loves them.

Originally posted by: vi edit
50 grams of fiber would be tough without some sort of supplement.

Yes, 50 grams is probably unrealistic for most people. But 25 grams is quite doable. A fiber bar, a whole grain sandwhich, a good fruit and good vegetable dish, and a bit of Benefiber in a drink and you are set.

Note: my fiancee works at the company that makes Benefiber, so I'm biased towards it.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Originally posted by: CKent
Calories in vs. calories out is pretty simple math, anyone who genetically deviated far enough for it to make a significant impact on their weight would either be constantly sweating or would always be freezing and have to have the heat cranked to 80.

This is false. At least the simple math part of it is false. The 'simply math' makes the assumption that we all use the calories fully, and the same way.
A person with lots of muscle can burn more calories sleeping then a fat person does while exercising. That is why the best way to lose weight and maintain the weight loss is actually to build muscle. Not only will you burn more calories even at rest, but workouts become more efficient and subjectively easier.

 

[IronWing]

Eat less, exercise more. Ten is way too complicated.

 

[BassBomb]

I noticed that I actually feel like eating something tasty when I am bored like a snack or something. So now I realize I can easily stop myself from eating randomly when I really shouldn't be.