10 Reasons Why PS3 Will Win This Console Generation

mad0maxx

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http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15611&page=1

1. Home & Little Big Planet
2. Free Online
3. 50 GB games
4. Casino Royale
5. HDMI
6. Standard HDD
7. The Wii Fad Will Fade
8. PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage
9. PS2 still outselling 360
10. Something For Everyone

My opinions on each...

1. Home = crap! and Little Big Planet looks fun...
2. Crap compared to XBox Live
3. Crap... who cares about disc size if the game sucks!
4. Crap-ola!
5. X-Box 360 Elite now has HDMI... so crap here...
6. X-Box Live Marketplace has HD content... crap.
7. Major crap here...
8. Very good point!
9. Elite crap here... how does Ps2 relate to next gen consoles?!
10. Depends on the person... so half crap half cool!

What do you all think?
 

Cabages

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I think you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

Maybe you shouldnt use the word crap so much?
 

effowe

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Yeah that list's a bunch of bull. No one can know for sure what's going to happen, but the way it's looking is..

1) Wii
2) 360
3) PS3

Going off launch numbers, hype, and current / future games.
 

mad0maxx

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Originally posted by: Cabages
I think you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

Maybe you shouldnt use the word crap so much?

Explain to me why you think I have no idea what I am talking about?
 

SonnyDaze

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10 Reasons your thread sucks:

1. You
2. Think
3. This
4. Is
5. A
6. Gaming
7. Forum
8. And
9. We
10. Care

:)
 

bigdog1218

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I think it's funny people still don't recoginze the mass appeal of the Wii, which even with a weak library is still sold out in most places.

 

mad0maxx

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Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
10 Reasons your thread sucks:

1. You
2. Think
3. This
4. Is
5. A
6. Gaming
7. Forum
8. And
9. We
10. Care

:)

I am sorry you think that my thread sucks... if you think it sucks so bad why post here?
 

tatteredpotato

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Cause the Lead Developer for a PS3 exclusive title is definitely not biased. Oh wait, hes not endorsed by Sony he must be trustworthy. Last time I checked fanboys weren't endorsed either.
 

tatteredpotato

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Originally posted by: bigdog1218
I think it's funny people still don't recoginze the mass appeal of the Wii, which even with a weak library is still sold out in most places.

I just realized how oxymoronic that is lol.
 

Bitek

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#1: Racist Japanese will carry the PS3 bc they won't buy round-eye's electronics
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: mad0maxx
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15611&page=1

1. Home & Little Big Planet
2. Free Online
3. 50 GB games
4. Casino Royale
5. HDMI
6. Standard HDD
7. The Wii Fad Will Fade
8. PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage
9. PS2 still outselling 360
10. Something For Everyone

My opinions on each...

1. Home = crap! and Little Big Planet looks fun...
2. Crap compared to XBox Live
3. Crap... who cares about disc size if the game sucks!
4. Crap-ola!
5. X-Box 360 Elite now has HDMI... so crap here...
6. X-Box Live Marketplace has HD content... crap.
7. Major crap here...
8. Very good point!
9. Elite crap here... how does Ps2 relate to next gen consoles?!
10. Depends on the person... so half crap half cool!

What do you all think?

1. Home looks sweet IMO, and so does LBP, but hardly going to put the PS3 on top.
2. Free is good and all, but Live blows it away, and if youre willing to pay $600 for a console, youre willing to pay $50 for quality online.
3. More space for FMV that no one cares about.
4. This supposed to be a joke?
5. A complete non-factor that is further nullified by the 360s new HDMI
6. Lack of one didnt hurt the PS2, 360 or Wii, so it wont help the PS3.
7. No, it really wont. The DS "fad" certainly didnt.
8. It really doesnt. Its an *interesting* design, but certainly not more powerful in all ways.
9. PS2 is outselling 360 cause its cheap and has good games, not because its Sony. This is the reason why the Wii will continue to dominate the PS3 (and soon the 360), not why Sony will succeed.
10. Everyone that is willing to drop $600 on a console, which is nearly noone.

The only one that is even near the mark is #1, and its not those two products specifically - its that the only thing that has and ever will sell systems is games and software that people want at a price they can swallow, and it really is 100000% that simple in the end, and always has been. History is littered with a long line of consoles and other products that had superior hardware and crap software, and failed miserably in the end. (3D0, Jaguar, Lynx, PSP...)

Not that I think the PS3 or Sony will fail miserably, but I'd stake a fair amount of money they're still going to be #3 in terms of sales AND profit 4 years from now. If I had to guess right now, Sony won't even break even, but it wont be the massive hemmoraging of money that the Xbox 1 was.
 

BigJ

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1 & 2 you can't comment on until we actually see the implementation of Home. From what they've shown, it looks like a great system. If it's comparable to Live, 1 & 2 become valid points.
3 may become an issue in the future. Not so much right now.
4 is double-edged. The inclusion of BR has alienated a lot of customers and hurt sales tremendously in the console market. It has done wonders for the HD war.
5 is also an issue that won't come up until the future. MS will probably drop prices on the Elite and then it's a matter of whether or not the PS3 follows suit. There's also the huge issue of people simply not having the hardware to take advantage of HDMi. It's really a non-issue right now.
6 looks to be a valid issue for the reasons discussed in the article. What MS may eventually do is put out games that require a HDD, like how N64 put out the memory back that enhanced games (but wasn't a requirement I believe).
7 Only time will tell. I personally think it's a novelty, but I'm also biased against the Wii because I simply don't align myself with the system because it doesn't carry the type of games I play. Neither does the 360. It is really up to how they implement the Wii-mote into future games. For example, powerful combo attacks or special moves that can only be fully utilized using the Wii-mote, making it an integral part of the game.
8 is an issue that has to be addressed by MS in terms of optimization. If they can optimize their code efficiently, they won't necessarily need a high powered CPU. The technology is still in it's infancy. Who ever thought the PS2 would be capable of what it has put out in GoW or the Final Fantasy series. I'm sure that MS will eventually unlock the true power of the system.
9 is valid to an extent. It will help with sales down the road. The question is how much. Personally, I still have a bunch of RPGs to play for the PS2 that will take me a serious amount of time to complete. There are no must-have games that are being released with the exception of the FF series, and that's a long way out.
10 Not really that great of a point. MS has a wide variety of titles and it will only get bigger.

It's a decent article highlighting some of the strong points of the PS3, but it's a terrible article in telling why the PS3 will win the war.
 

SonnyDaze

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Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
10 Reasons your thread sucks:

1. You
2. Think
3. This
4. Is
5. A
6. Gaming
7. Forum
8. And
9. We
10. Care

:)

I am sorry you think that my thread sucks... if you think it sucks so bad why post here?

+2. :)
 

tatteredpotato

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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
I think Sony should have all PS3 in-store displays running Motorstorm. That game looks simply gorgeous.

They removed all sense of speed in order to get those visuals. I prefer how NFSMW plays better, but they are on opposite ends of the racing spectrum. I got bored of the MotorStorm demo pretty quick.
 

TecHNooB

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If MGS4 and FFXIII fail to sell PS3s, then all hope is lost. I guess UT3 can be part of the mix too, but FPS is really a 360 strongpoint. Still, it's UT :)
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: mad0maxx
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15611&page=1

1. Home & Little Big Planet
2. Free Online
3. 50 GB games
4. Casino Royale
5. HDMI
6. Standard HDD
7. The Wii Fad Will Fade
8. PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage
9. PS2 still outselling 360
10. Something For Everyone

My opinions on each...

Stupid crap removed

What do you all think?

1. This will attract the people who like these things. Probably younger gamers.
2. People don't like paying more after pay anywhere from $300 to $600 for a system. This is a plus.
3. Don't really understand how this applies.
4. This relates more to the format war than console war.
5. PS3 beat MS to the punch on this one and MS was definitely shown up. MS thought it was a gimmick. They were wrong.
6. This is a big plus. Having a hard drive in every single system is an advantage for developers and it goes back to #2: don't make people pay more for a necessary feature (saving games).
7. I tend to agree with this. The whole Wii Sports and Wiimote fad has attracted a lot of non-typical gamers into the market, but the novelty won't last forever. I also don't really view the Wii as a direct competitor of the PS3 and 360.
8. Absolutely.
9. This helps because of brand loyalty. People buying a PS2 are more likely to buy a PS3 in 3 or 4 years. Basic marketing psychology.
10. PS3 and 360 tend to have a similar range of games. Not really a valid point.
 

secretanchitman

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1. looks alright.
2. it sucks compared to live, but hey, its free and ill take it as long as i can play against other people.
3. yeah...more content, more stuff.
4. good movie personally.
5. nothing too special since xbox360 elite has it.
6. premium and elite have it...but its a whopping $100/$180 for a 20GB/120GB hard drive...yeesh too expensive.
7. once brawl, mario galaxy, metroid, and other games come out, i dont think it will.
8. thats true, cell is damn good at F@H.
9. true again, but ps2 has a ton more games (and better ones at that).
10. thats true if you take ps1/ps2 games into consideration.
 

hans030390

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1. Home & Little Big Planet - Are you kidding me? Home looks great! It's free too. Blows Live, which is rather bland, out of the water. And if you don't want to use the 3d interface, the new features are available from the XMB as well. LBP is sweet looking...

2. Free Online - See above. In the future, Sony's free online will be a much better deal than having to pay $50 a month for Live (assuming it all works well, which it probably will). BTW: If I just dropped $600 on a console, I'd want to shoot myself if I had to pay $50 each year just to play online. That's silly. Sony's online is growing, and I must say the games are almost lag-free. Why is everyone complaining?

3. 50 GB games - Psh...who cares? I'd rather play on my NES cartridges anyways! To say we don't need more space (at least in the future) is pretty ignorant. Why do you think systems use increasingly larger format sizes? It's because they NEED it to get the best graphics/sound that they can. Using the streaming technology from UE3 (read the original article), having more and more space allows for better looking, and much bigger games. Eventually with DVD you'll sacrifice the best visuals or having a bigger game. BTW: Kojima said that he wished he had MORE space than 50gb for MGS4. Does that say anything?

4. Casino Royale - It's a lame point...

5. HDMI - Another lame point with the 360 elite now (which is worthless, I think...), but it's a good move to have it as an option to use (more standard than 360).

6. Standard HDD - This is good. Sony and developers KNOW the user has a HD. Downloading things can be for EVERYONE now. Also, some games can use the space to help load times in-game (ex: Oblivion has apparently 2x faster loads than 360) or for other features. Having a standard HD is a great choice for growing games.

7. The Wii Fad Will Fade - I think this is true. At least in my area, everyone was excited about the DS, but no one cares now. The only people I see playing it are little kids. Example: My cousin (age 16) was excited to get a Wii. He got one, beat Zelda, and it is now collecting dust.

8. PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage - No brainer

9. PS2 still outselling 360 - Half-lame point, but it just shows that Sony has the games over Microsoft...and I think this will mostly continue (but to a lesser extent) for the PS3.

10. Something For Everyone - It's true. Nintendo is mostly geared towards "less-offensive" games, and Microsoft is slowly adapting the whole variety. Sony already has that. It has kids games all the way to the games like GTA. Sony has anything from racing, RPGs, FPS, etc. Sony also has the BIG titles in those genres (FF, MGS, GT, etc). Microsoft is working at it, and it's quite obvious that they're gaining support similar to Sony's.

Sure, maybe the guy is being a fanboy...but he's saying it for himself...Sony isn't paying him (no endorsement). Still, I'd trust a fanboy in the gaming industry (a big, important guy at that too) over a general fanboy. His fanboy-ness probably comes from good reason and experience.

To say the PS3 won't win the generation seems to be a strange prediction. I think the PS3 has a lot going for it, but apparently Sony bashing is cool. It's a much tighter competition this time around, but I still think Sony will take the lead. Next-gen, though...who knows. It's closing in.

Now that I think about it though, LBP looks good, but why make a whole point over it? I'd say other games will help the PS3 more than that game.
 

purbeast0

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LOL this list is laughable.

Considering they didn't even put MGS4 or FFXIII on that list, it is very hard to even take any of those points seriously.
 

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1. Home & Little Big Planet
I'm not sure what this even is.

2. Free Online
PS3 is $600. Free online isn't going to offset the huge cost difference.

3. 50 GB games
I like that it has higher capacity, but how is this going to sell consoles exactly?

4. Casino Royale
I really think they mean Blu-ray here. I'm going to probably end up getting a PS3 for blu-ray first, and then some good games will come out later.

5. HDMI
Nice feature, but honestly how many people will benefit over component? The high end HDTV userbase is so small.


6. Standard HDD
Nice feature, but not very significant.

7. The Wii Fad Will Fade
It may lighten up a bit. Nintendo is so slow to release good games.

8. PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage
Yes it does, but how does that sell games exactly.

9. PS2 still outselling 360
Irrelevant.

10. Something For Everyone
360 has the same type of variety now, even getting RPGs. One could argue that Wii reaches a larger userbase (baby boomers).



Two realistic reasons that PS3 will sell better soon:
1. Blu-ray and Cell are what make it so expensive to make. These will go down in price drastically soon, and consequently Sony will be able to lower the price. I mean, 600 fvcking dollars. Wtf.
2. The reason why PS and PS2 sold so well: GAMES. PS3 will get some good games soon. MGS4, GTA4, God of War 3, Final Fantasy, Ratchet and Clank.
 

mlm

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Considering they didn't even put MGS4 or FFXIII on that list, it is very hard to even take any of those points seriously.

Maybe because he feels he doesn't have to.

And why plug another studio's work? The mention of LBP was more for the innovation rather than the game itself.
 

mad0maxx

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Home is a virtual world like "Second Life" where you build a Sim of yourself and walk around a virtual world... plus from gamestop you gotta walk to different parts of the house to play a game, watch a movie, etc.

Little Big World is a new side scrolling game that looks pretty cool... you have four players on one screen and each one of you assist each other to get through the level... looks fun.