10 Reasons Why PS3 Will Win This Console Generation

[mlm]

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Home is a virtual world like "Second Life" where you build a Sim of yourself and walk around a virtual world... plus from gamestop you gotta walk to different parts of the house to play a game, watch a movie, etc.

You don't have to walk around, there are shortcuts to everything.

Home is all about the communal aspects. Group meetings, random meet-ups, media sharing, online advertising (movie/game), etc.

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: purbeast0
Considering they didn't even put MGS4 or FFXIII on that list, it is very hard to even take any of those points seriously.

Maybe because he feels he doesn't have to.

And why plug another studio's work? The mention of LBP was more for the innovation rather than the game itself.

Once stores start showing off games like MGS4 and FFXIII in front of shopping store windows... the tide will come Parasite eve had that effect.. on me anyway

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: TecHNooB

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: purbeast0
Considering they didn't even put MGS4 or FFXIII on that list, it is very hard to even take any of those points seriously.

Maybe because he feels he doesn't have to.

And why plug another studio's work? The mention of LBP was more for the innovation rather than the game itself.

Once stores start showing off games like MGS4 and FFXIII in front of shopping store windows... the tide will come Parasite eve had that effect.. on me anyway

THat game came out 3 years after the PSX launched, and your PSX that you bought with it was probably around $150. That's a lot less of an impulse buy than $600.

 

[Eeezee]

I don't agree with most of it either, but your post is lame... or should I say crap?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: purbeast0
Considering they didn't even put MGS4 or FFXIII on that list, it is very hard to even take any of those points seriously.

Maybe because he feels he doesn't have to.

Pretty crappy list without them.

 

[AbAbber2k]

1. Home & Little Big Planet
Home: Don't care, LBP: Care a lot... wish it was coming to the Wii

2. Free Online
Don't care. I don't do online console gaming.

3. 50 GB games
Stupid. Not a reason to own a PS3. The consumer doesn't care. It's a reason developers might chose to use the format.

4. Casino Royale
Another stupid

5. HDMI
Decent point. But only matters to those with HDTV.

6. Standard HDD
Good point.

7. The Wii Fad Will Fade
I still play Wii Sports. Hell, one of my buddies has been over here 3 times in the last 4 days playing it with me. Bowling is the shiznit.

8. PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage
Unless you consider the fact that developing for the Cell is a nightmare compared to the 360 and Wii.

9. PS2 still outselling 360
Brand loyalty, shmand loyalty. In 3-4 years, the fact that you JUST bought a PS2 isn't going to matter compared to which "next-gen" system actually has a library of games you want to play.

10. Something For Everyone
Apparently not, because I have no interest in what the PS3 has to offer (except Little Big Planet ).

 

[mlm]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
3. 50 GB games
Stupid. Not a reason to own a PS3. The consumer doesn't care. It's a reason developers might chose to use the format.

But isn't that, in turn, a good thing for the consumer? One of those "if you build it, they will come" kind of things.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
3. 50 GB games
Stupid. Not a reason to own a PS3. The consumer doesn't care. It's a reason developers might chose to use the format.

But isn't that, in turn, a good thing for the consumer? One of those "if you build it, they will come" kind of things.

If space were such an issue, I don't see how it'd be possible for PS3 games to fit on DVD for the 360, and yet, somehow, amazingly, there is a huge lineup of cross-platform games that are all going to look nearly identical on both systems.

Just more marketing BS.

Yes, we'll eventually need the space... but I don't see it being a necessity until the NEXT next-gen.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
3. 50 GB games
Stupid. Not a reason to own a PS3. The consumer doesn't care. It's a reason developers might chose to use the format.

But isn't that, in turn, a good thing for the consumer? One of those "if you build it, they will come" kind of things.

FMV... meh.

Amazing that console game developers need 50 GB, while PC game developers aren't limited to the 512 MB of memory that the PS3 has, yet are able to make better looking games that don't take up 50 GB. :Q Many console games didn't fill a DVD-5 even at the end of last generation.

And it is possible to make a game span multiple discs...

 

[jlmadyson]

AG Edwards says not through 2009 it ain't, dead last it is. They also talk about some of these said points;

AG Edwards: Wii To Top 2007 Sales, X360 To Win Cycle

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Wow, OP what a great unbiased, comprehensive counterpoint for each of the points.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Wow, OP what a great unbiased, comprehensive counterpoint for each of the points.

Wow, guy, what a great way to add substance to this thread.

 

[mlm]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
If space were such an issue, I don't see how it'd be possible for PS3 games to fit on DVD for the 360, and yet, somehow, amazingly, there is a huge lineup of cross-platform games that are all going to look nearly identical on both systems.

Just more marketing BS.

Yes, we'll eventually need the space... but I don't see it being a necessity until the NEXT next-gen.

There was already a multi-disc game within the first year of the 360. Things are just going to get bigger from here.

And multi-discs are a huge PITA. I will gladly support any movement that avoids them. I don't see how anybody seriously wouldn't be annoyed by having to change discs more than 7 times for a 50GB MGS4 on the 360.

 

[AkumaX]

your #6 doesnt make sense
your #8 isn't really valid because people still don't know how to program the cpus

 

[skace]

It's cocky and over sensationalized, but there is a bit of truth to the list. PS3's bad press will die the second it starts getting exclusives out the door. Which, if the PS2 was any indication, took about a year. Everything before that is just hot air. Gamers have short memories, shorter attention spans and little loyalty.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
If space were such an issue, I don't see how it'd be possible for PS3 games to fit on DVD for the 360, and yet, somehow, amazingly, there is a huge lineup of cross-platform games that are all going to look nearly identical on both systems.

Just more marketing BS.

Yes, we'll eventually need the space... but I don't see it being a necessity until the NEXT next-gen.

There was already a multi-disc game within the first year of the 360. Things are just going to get bigger from here.

And multi-discs are a huge PITA. I will gladly support any movement that avoids them. I don't see how anybody seriously wouldn't be annoyed by having to change discs more than 7 times for a 50GB MGS4 on the 360.

Remove all the crap cutscenes and there's no way MGS4 takes up that much space.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: skace
It's cocky and over sensationalized, but there is a bit of truth to the list. PS3's bad press will die the second it starts getting exclusives out the door. Which, if the PS2 was any indication, took about a year. Everything before that is just hot air. Gamers have short memories, shorter attention spans and little loyalty.

Yeah, the PS2 comment was completely irrelevant. [edit: that is the PS2 comment in the article, which I assume you were referring to with the short attention spans and little loyalty]

Companies that had two or more highly successful (top two of the generation) consoles followed by one or more flops:
Atari
Nintendo
Sega

The console business is a tricky business. You can do everything right, but mess up one thing and you're screwed - release it too early, release it too late, use the wrong data storage format, etc. The PS3 is a great console. It has a suck-ass controller, but it's a great console. But great consoles have been flops before. Who knows what will happen...

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skace
It's cocky and over sensationalized, but there is a bit of truth to the list. PS3's bad press will die the second it starts getting exclusives out the door. Which, if the PS2 was any indication, took about a year. Everything before that is just hot air. Gamers have short memories, shorter attention spans and little loyalty.

Yeah, the PS2 comment was completely irrelevant. [edit: that is the PS2 comment in the article, which I assume you were referring to with the short attention spans and little loyalty]

Companies that had two or more highly successful (top two of the generation) consoles followed by one or more flops:
Atari
Nintendo
Sega

The console business is a tricky business. You can do everything right, but mess up one thing and you're screwed - release it too early, release it too late, use the wrong data storage format, etc. The PS3 is a great console. It has a suck-ass controller, but it's a great console. But great consoles have been flops before. Who knows what will happen...

Rumble is coming back. Quick, notify Hideo!

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
If space were such an issue, I don't see how it'd be possible for PS3 games to fit on DVD for the 360, and yet, somehow, amazingly, there is a huge lineup of cross-platform games that are all going to look nearly identical on both systems.

Just more marketing BS.

Yes, we'll eventually need the space... but I don't see it being a necessity until the NEXT next-gen.

There was already a multi-disc game within the first year of the 360. Things are just going to get bigger from here.

And multi-discs are a huge PITA. I will gladly support any movement that avoids them. I don't see how anybody seriously wouldn't be annoyed by having to change discs more than 7 times for a 50GB MGS4 on the 360.

Remove all the crap cutscenes and there's no way MGS4 takes up that much space.

EXACTLY. The only reason Kojima wanted more than 50GB of disc space was so he could bore us with hours of HD cutscenes.

 

[ed21x]

one thing preventing the wii fad from fading is that with so many units sold, developers are now jumping on the wii bandwagon and producing games for the system, therebye fueling the fad...

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
If space were such an issue, I don't see how it'd be possible for PS3 games to fit on DVD for the 360, and yet, somehow, amazingly, there is a huge lineup of cross-platform games that are all going to look nearly identical on both systems.

Just more marketing BS.

Yes, we'll eventually need the space... but I don't see it being a necessity until the NEXT next-gen.

There was already a multi-disc game within the first year of the 360. Things are just going to get bigger from here.

And multi-discs are a huge PITA. I will gladly support any movement that avoids them. I don't see how anybody seriously wouldn't be annoyed by having to change discs more than 7 times for a 50GB MGS4 on the 360.

Remove all the crap cutscenes and there's no way MGS4 takes up that much space.

EXACTLY. The only reason Kojima wanted more than 50GB of disc space was so he could bore us with hours of HD cutscenes.

The cutscenes in the original MGS were fine. MGS2 was good as well because the pacing was quick like MGS. But in MGS3, the cutscenes really dragged on. Let's see if Hideo does something about that.

As for needing all 50 gigs, clearly Hideo plans on letting us use the cyborg ninja this time around

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Wow, OP what a great unbiased, comprehensive counterpoint for each of the points.

Wow, guy, what a great way to add substance to this thread.

Thanks. Here, some real substance.

1. Something new from Sony, they could go a long way with this game, looking forward with what they can do.
2. Cannot touch Xbox but it is free to play with other people.
3. They do not even use the whole 50 GB so that's not even a real threat.
4. Casino Royale (100,000 Blu-ray movies sold out of the 2,000,000 PS3 sold), numbers don't add up.
5. Elite has it, but you really do not need it.
6. User-replacable, do not need to spend $180 for a simple 120 GB HDD like the 360.
7. The Wii is at a price point that is accessible to casual gamers, which is the market that has the less penetration.
8. The CPU of the Xbox 360 is 3 smart cores, while the PS3 is 1 smart core and 7 dumb cores, so they each have their advantages in calculations.
9. PS2 is still a good console, with the release of God of War 2 it is still going, but that doesn't mean the PS3 will win.
10. You can make that assumption for every console, there is every type of game for every type of person.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Its $50 a year for Xbox Live, not a month. That comes out to about $4 bucks a month. You cant spare 4 bucks a month to play Xbox Live?

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Xbox Live owns, but there are some problems with it. Such as, we pay $50 a year for a service that only holds onto our buddy lists and our messages. Everything else, hosting games, chats, is all up to us. I would like to see Microsoft host games for us to join, that way, no host shotgun in Gears.

 

[Xyclone]

Eh, your points are rather weak, and sound extremely biased.