10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

[Blue_Max]

It must be terrible to spend your life living in fear of people who don't even know or care that you exist.

Might want to read a quran yourself. Pay close attention to whenever it talks about "kafirs" (infidels, non-muslims) which is over 80% of the time.

 

[raildogg]

The Muslim haters are going to capitalize on this opportunity to spew their hate (as seen in this thread and everywhere else). The so-called extremist Muslims are going to do their thing - killing people in the name of God (so ridiculous). No one is going to admit that they might be just a little wrong. They will instead point fingers. This is what humans have been doing for the last countless years. They never learn from history yet they study it day and night.

Thus, the cycle continues and nothing changes.

 

[Nebor]

You didnt express yourself accurately, first you are implying that all muslims are terrorists, as such you re already lying, second is that it s not the face of islam that you like to see but like you would want to see, as you need deseperatly to justify your supremacism and racism, keep on living on your rotten bubble, surely that it stinks good for haters like the zionists who are the continuator of nazism.

I can't help myself what with all the narcotics the Zionists have put me on.

 

[raildogg]

Might want to read a quran yourself. Pay close attention to whenever it talks about "kafirs" (infidels, non-muslims) which is over 80% of the time.

Sure, and I'm sure your reading it with a totally open and honest mind, right? Like, you have no biases, such as looking for little things here and there out of context? Everyone can take any book and twist it to their own version. That doesn't make the book bad. Just like it doesn't make the Bible bad or any other religious book. It takes a certain mind to truly read and comprehend such deep texts - a mind that very, very few humans possess.

 

[1prophet]

Of course you have to create some straws since nowwhere i said that killing people is right, quite the contrary, i m saying that killing innocent people is evil, thing is that for some people a muslim civilian is not a civilian, actualy he s not even an human, this is your poor opinion, that is to deshumanize muslims as a mean to cancel your nation obvious crimes, also in case you didnt notice i m no believer but i guess that once one consider muslims as humans, well, he s forcibly a killer supporter.

Now i think that offending believers by ridiculising their prophets and beliefs is not freedom of expression, real freedom of expression is to build valuable argumentations that negate thoses religions, ridiculing them is a prove of poor IQ and certainly of some wickness that consist to take pleasure from voluntarly humiliating them.

Also notice that i have treated the islamophobic above the same way he treats muslims, that s why i returned him the shitead insult, a safe rule is to treat others the way they themselves treat other people.

So is this freedom of expression or ridiculing and who gets to decide?

 

[Nebor]

Sure, and I'm sure your reading it with a totally open and honest mind, right? Like, you have no biases, such as looking for little things here and there out of context? Everyone can take any book and twist it to their own version. That doesn't make the book bad. Just like it doesn't make the Bible bad or any other religious book. It takes a certain mind to truly read and comprehend such deep texts - a mind that very, very few humans possess.

All religious books are bad. The Koran is pretty bad, but the way it's been interpreted by the majority of Muslims throughout history is even worse.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Might want to read a quran yourself. Pay close attention to whenever it talks about "kafirs" (infidels, non-muslims) which is over 80% of the time.

Stay afraid. Stay very afraid. They're coming for *you*.

Btw, I don't believe for a second that you've read the Quran.

 

[raildogg]

All religious books are bad. The Koran is pretty bad, but the way it's been interpreted by the majority of Muslims throughout history is even worse.

I haven't read much of the religious books but from what I've read, they are quite easy to misinterpret. So two people reading them will arrive at different opinions. Imagine billions of people reading them. That's why I said it takes an honest and truthful mind to truly understand these texts. I don't have such a mind. I'm very conditioned and can only understand things from my point of view, rather than looking at things as they are. So if I read a religious text, I will interpret it in a wrongful way - the way that most people interpret it.

But we don't need these books to tell us how to live. If you live according to a book, your not living. Your just following a program that you think you know but you don't actually know it. It's even worse for most "religious" people because they follow the religious leaders - who themselves are totally ignorant of the true essence of religion.

 

[Blue_Max]

I haven't read much of the religious books but from what I've read, they are quite easy to misinterpret. So two people reading them will arrive at different opinions. Imagine billions of people reading them. That's why I said it takes an honest and truthful mind to truly understand these texts. I don't have such a mind. I'm very conditioned and can only understand things from my point of view, rather than looking at things as they are. So if I read a religious text, I will interpret it in a wrongful way - the way that most people interpret it.

But we don't need these books to tell us how to live. If you live according to a book, your not living. Your just following a program that you think you know but you don't actually know it. It's even worse for most "religious" people because they follow the religious leaders - who themselves are totally ignorant of the true essence of religion.

You want essence? Their great prophet himself cut off so many heads that the pile was taller than him while on horseback - the same guy who said, "now go do what I do!" Peaceful, eh?

 

[Nebor]

You want essence? Their great prophet himself cut off so many heads that the pile was taller than him while on horseback - the same guy who said, "now go do what I do!" Peaceful, eh?

He also fucked little girls and repeatedly broke peace treaties once his forces grew powerful enough to prevail. Islam has a history of cowardice and treachery.

 

[raildogg]

Keep up that way of thinking. Your only adding to the collective hate and ignorance. Don't be surprised when your disrespect of someone else's religion makes the other person upset. You may hold on to your opinions, no matter how illogical or insane they are, but at least show some respect. I guess not.

By the way, you don't know a thing about what you guys are talking about. Where did you read this and why do you believe what you read?

 

[Blue_Max]

Keep up that way of thinking. Your only adding to the collective hate and ignorance. Don't be surprised when your disrespect of someone else's religion makes the other person upset. You may hold on to your opinions, no matter how illogical or insane they are, but at least show some respect. I guess not.

respect. *snerk* You can hold this opinion once you have marauding hordes of Christians, Buddhists, Confucians, athiests and others; all rioting in the streets over their religions/beliefs and slaughtering opposers when they can.

Also, much of what detractors call "Christian violence" were almost always examples of someone who might've gone to a church a couple times but that's it. They acted of their own accord, and killed people for their own reasons, not on behalf of any god they're fervent for. Most of western soldiers fighting terrorists are NOT doing it for "god" or screaming the name of their deity, or killing the enemy specifically for not believing in said deity.

 

[Abwx]

So is this freedom of expression or ridiculing and who gets to decide?

Such things are not needed, that s my opinion, as said i m no believer but i would never be disrespectfull of whatever religion, a member above explained well that religions are not being, these are tools used differently by each people, actualy there s as much religions as there s people, or even living bodies, on earth.

 

[Nebor]

Keep up that way of thinking. Your only adding to the collective hate and ignorance. Don't be surprised when your disrespect of someone else's religion makes the other person upset. You may hold on to your opinions, no matter how illogical or insane they are, but at least show some respect. I guess not.

By the way, you don't know a thing about what you guys are talking about. Where did you read this and why do you believe what you read?

I read it written on the wall of a port-a-potty in Afghanistan. I looked around at all the muslims and thought, "yeah, seems believable."

 

[michal1980]

It must be terrible to spend your life living in fear of people who don't even know or care that you exist.

who said I live in fear?

I just don't live in a bubble of ignorance.

 

[StrangerGuy]

You want essence? Their great prophet himself cut off so many heads that the pile was taller than him while on horseback - the same guy who said, "now go do what I do!" Peaceful, eh?

Funny eh, these guys can keep issuing death threats and we aren't supposed to be scared or take them seriously because...cultural equivalence?

And I don't care how much you claim how peaceful you are, as long as you support stone age shit like honor killing etc you are an clearly an extremist, full stop.

 

[f1sherman]

Such things are not needed, that s my opinion, as said i m no believer but i would never be disrespectfull of whatever religion, a member above explained well that religions are not being, these are tools used differently by each people, actualy there s as much religions as there s people, or even living bodies, on earth.

You ARE disrespectful. Of human life.
Because by focusing the narrative on respect (lack and need for it), you are blaming the victims (if they showed more respect...).
And you are showing what your main concern is.

I am truly offended by this.
SHOULD I MURDER YOU? Duh... I am not that offended. But I wouldn't mind smacking you.
I don't have a God but if I did, my God(s) would be Decency and Life, and this stance of yours highly offends both of my Gods, and me.

So you see its not that easy to be respectful all the time to everyone.

Millions lack food and water, and are getting tortured and killed and you talk about respect.
Fuck respect. Just don't kill me.

 

[Abwx]

And I don't care how much you claim how peaceful you are, as long as you support stone age shit like honor killing etc you are an clearly an extremist, full stop.

Yet another post from one who think that the universe wouldnt exist without him....

Invading Iraq and killing tens thousands innocent civilians was an act of revenge staged against a nation that was in no way responsible with what happened in the Us in 2001, as such it s an honor killing, or rather a dishonoring killing since it was an illegal war supported by a fanatised US citizenry, so much for the cultural equivalence, you are so entrenched with supremacism that you hold your baselessness as being noble, lol of a lol, buy yourself a functional brain before starting to talk of random killings..

 

[Victorian Gray]

who said I live in fear?

You did.

I just don't live in a bubble of ignorance.

You're kidding, right?

 

[michal1980]

You did.



You're kidding, right?

The people claiming that radical Muslims are some fractional percentage of the Muslim population, people like you are living in a liberal idiot bubble.

I can live without fear with the knowledge that there are millions, if then tens of millions of Muslims ready or willing to kill people that disagree with them.

 

[werepossum]

Deported to where? He was born in the UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary

It looks like a lot of his followers are from Scotland and Ireland

So he and their followers should have their citizenship yanked, THEN be deported. To where depends entirely on the range of the catapult.

It wouldn't be complete without blaming uncle sam.

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/8/7514439/charlie-hebdo-russia-cia

By this point I'm wondering if Russians really are that stupid.

 

[Abwx]

You ARE disrespectful. Of human life.
Because by focusing the narrative on respect (lack and need for it), you are blaming the victims (if they showed more respect...).
And you are showing what your main concern is.

My main concern is that justice prevail over injustice.

I said that i was against killing innocent people, is that what you call disrespect of people lifes, could you explain because if you cant then all your post is erroneous since you started it by an innaccuracy.

I am truly offended by this.
SHOULD I MURDER YOU? Duh... I am not that offended. But I wouldn't mind smacking you.
I don't have a God but if I did, my God(s) would be Decency and Life, and this stance of yours highly offends both of my Gods, and me.

So you see its not that easy to be respectful all the time to everyone

You are not offended but is using a straw as a mean to being offended and make a point, one cant be offended if faced with someone that do not support killing innocent people, unless you are a rabid murderer of course, in wich case if given the choice i wouldnt only smack you...

Millions lack food and water, and are getting tortured and killed and you talk about respect.
Fuck respect. Just don't kill me.

One more time i said that i m against killing people, why are you eagerly insisting on straws to make a point.?.

And to not kill someone, and being against his death, is respecting someone, so you are asking for respect when you say "Just dont kill me", for the most basic respect an human is asking for.

 

[f1sherman]

yes... you are against killing people,

but instead of finishing this with a full stop you continue in the same breath (or in the same post rather) with talk about respect and not offending others la-lala

how did respect come into this?
well obviously thats your recipe for this explosive situation - just show more respect and it will be fine, or some version of this

if not, and i am wrong about that, please explain why are you talking about respect in this Murderous thread?

PS
I AM OFFENDED BY YOUR STANCE. No, I am not saying that for an effect.

 

[f1sherman]

And to not kill someone, and being against his death, is respecting someone, so you are asking for respect when you say "Just dont kill me", for the most basic respect an human is asking for.

shit... you are equating Respect with Life.

im done with you

 

[Victorian Gray]

The people claiming that radical Muslims are some fractional percentage of the Muslim population, people like you are living in a liberal idiot bubble.

I can live without fear with the knowledge that there are millions, if then tens of millions of Muslims ready or willing to kill people that disagree with them.

You *are* afraid and everything you post reinforces that fact. It seems a sad way to live one's life. <shrug>