10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

[OutHouse]

Can you show me all these major papers with those articles?

your pattern is this, when you are asked questions, you answer with a question.

 

[f1sherman]

It's a bloody shame the police on the streets didn't have the FORCE to stop the terrorists yesterday.

your attempts at exporting gun control debate are amusing
my country went through war in 90's. every asshole had a gun back then, every weekend out was a nightmare

we in Europe by large don't dig that gun shit, simple as that

 

[norseamd]

I'm appalled by the militarization of the French police; i've seen armored trucks and assault rifles.

Why can't they just wait these people out? Talk them down.

Those are probably Gendarmerie.

 

[Orignal Earl]

your pattern is this, when you are asked questions, you answer with a question.

I want to read the articles so I can see what he is talking about?
Is that what is going on? He won't show all the articles because I won't answer his questions about the articles?

 

[PlanetJosh]

Well turns out I was right it's not just gunmen, it's gunpersons.

http://forward.com/articles/212404/female-terror-suspect-escapes-paris-kosher-grocery/

Her name is Hayat. And wow she's quite nice looking as you can see.
Edit: Added her photo below in case the link above stops showing it.

 

[mrjminer]

Well turns out I was right it's not just gunmen, it's shitheads with penises and without penises.

http://forward.com/articles/212404/female-terror-suspect-escapes-paris-kosher-grocery/

Her name is Hayat. And wow she's quite nice looking as you can see.

Fixed.

PS: They're dead as fuck now. Good riddance.

 

[PlanetJosh]

Shitheads can still be pretty in a physical sense.

 

[freegeeks]

Those are probably Gendarmerie.

GIGN and RAID units

GIGN is gendarmerie and is part of the military
RAID is special unit of the French national police

 

[schmuckley]

It directly refutes the person quoted about killing/violence who aren't Muslims but fundie Christians. Again, religion didn't kill people today, killers hiding behind and using it as an excuse did. Try and keep up aptly named bigot.

Kindly pull yourself off of your head and stay on topic.
PS:As has been said,your post is full of fail..and you should feel bad.

If things like this keep up;It's going to be bad for Muslims everywhere.
They'll be lucky if this doesn't trigger a nasty chain of events in France.

If something like this happens again..I bet a dime to a dollar it will be ON.
definitely in France..possibly worldwide.

 

[PlanetJosh]

I don't believe this. The media is at again downplaying the role and abilities of women terrorism. Reporters have the tone that the terrorist incidents are basically over in France just because the three male terrorists are dead. Yet the woman terrorist is still on the run and capable of doing untold damage to human lives.

But we still get the media with their ingrained attitudes like most of the rest of us not taking women as seriously as men as terrorists and committing the heinous acts in Paris over the last few days.

 

[peonyu]

The media is already going into Spin-Mode, terms such as "Islamophobic" are beginning to pop up already. How sweet right ? Yes there is absolutely NO reason to be weary of Islam and the people who follow it zealously [sarcasm]. I mean, there are no such terms as "Hinduphobic" or "Buddhistphobic" but thats just due to small issues such as their followers NOT flying planes into buildings or killing people just for making fun of Moham-shithead.

 

[Blanky]

Can you show me all these major papers with those articles?

Easily. Many papers aren't allowing comments on this story, but npr does and it's top story now top rated comment is in line with what I state as are all the top comments on articles at dailymail, the news site with the highest traffic in the world. Enjoy your minority, and incorrect view, though.

I am referring to comments, not articles per se though all the major rags of course are pointing out that these guys say they are killing Islam and who are we to argue they aren't?

 

[shira]

I've never read the Qur'an, but all the anti-Muslim posters here have.
I just google as I go along learning about Islam.

Your interpretation left you thinking that Muslims think they are superior because of the Qur'an, yet I read this on the wiki page.



If the Quran is full of praise for Christians and Jews, how did you end up interpreting the opposite?

If in fact the Quran clearly praises Christians and Jews, then how come Islamists - who claim to want to set up a Caliphate defined by the precepts of the Quran - refer to Jews and Christians as "infidels" and consider them eligible for subjugation and slavery?

 

[Blanky]

Earl are you really continuing to deny the link between these guys and Islam? Click on the top article at cnn right now. It is right there for you to see. You realize they killed because of an insult to Islam, right? You have a very strange agenda.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Easily. Many papers aren't allowing comments on this story, but npr does and it's top story now top rated comment is in line with what I state as are all the top comments on articles at dailymail, the news site with the highest traffic in the world. Enjoy your minority, and incorrect view, though.

I am referring to comments, not articles per se though all the major rags of course are pointing out that these guys say they are killing Islam and who are we to argue they aren't?

Ohhh....
The comments section of the dailymail....
That's always were the real story is eh

 

[bshole]

The media is already going into Spin-Mode, terms such as "Islamophobic" are beginning to pop up already. How sweet right ? Yes there is absolutely NO reason to be weary of Islam and the people who follow it zealously [sarcasm]. I mean, there are no such terms as "Hinduphobic" or "Buddhistphobic" but thats just due to small issues such as their followers NOT flying planes into buildings or killing people just for making fun of Moham-shithead.

Even if 0.1% of muslims involved themselves in this madness, there would be millions of these incidents a year. We are talking about a subset of muslims in the millionths of a percent. There are nutjobs in every religion. This isn't a problem of islam, it is a problem of islamic fundamentalist nutjobs....... kind of like the nutjob Christian abortion protestors we see harassing terrified girls visting abortion clinics.

 

[Blanky]

Ohhh....
The comments section of the dailymail....
That's always were the real story is eh

Yes of course. And your view of NPR readers?

 

[Blanky]

Even if 0.1% of muslims involved themselves in this madness, there would be millions of these incidents a year. We are talking about a subset of muslims in the millionths of a percent. There are nutjobs in every religion. This isn't a problem of islam, it is a problem of islamic fundamentalist nutjobs....... kind of like the nutjob Christian abortion protestors we see harassing terrified girls visting abortion clinics.

Thousands of terrorist attacks each year by Islamic extremists is like harassing women at an abortion clinic? But like you said, the problem is Islamic fundamentalists, not pizza loving fundamentalists or Buddhist fundamentalists.

 

[bshole]

Yes of course. And your view of NPR readers?

Probably within the top 10% of all Americans in terms of intelligence and knowledge.

 

[Blanky]

Probably within the top 10% of all Americans in terms of intelligence and knowledge.

I would agree with that.

 

[Abwx]

The media is already going into Spin-Mode, terms such as "Islamophobic" are beginning to pop up already. How sweet right ? Yes there is absolutely NO reason to be weary of Islam and the people who follow it zealously [sarcasm]. I mean, there are no such terms as "Hinduphobic" or "Buddhistphobic" but thats just due to small issues such as their followers NOT flying planes into buildings or killing people just for making fun of Moham-shithead.

But you are actualy a stinky islamophobic shitehead, or will you deny that you hate muslims for the sake of hating.?.

How about a country that use forged pretense to kill innocent people that have nothing to do with september 11 events.?.
You staged this war by pure racism, a whole country agreed to kill iraqis as a vengence for an event where this country had nothing to do, and it wasnt 100 or even 10 000 innocents civilians that were killed by a fanatic president that mosts USans supported, that is killing people for no valuable reason.

 

[Blanky]

But you are actualy a stinky islamophobic shitehead, or will you deny that you hate muslims for the sake of hating.?.

How about a country that use forged pretense to kill innocent people that have nothing to do with september 11 events.?.
You staged this war by pure racism, a whole country agreed to kill iraqis as a vengence for an event where this country had nothing to do, and it wasnt 100 or even 10 000 innocents civilians that were killed by a fanatic president that mosts USans supported, that is killing people for no valuable reason.

Why do you keep trying to make this thread about the Iraq war?

 

[shira]

Omar:
By purely just saying based on the cartoons this incident happened isn’t it treating it quite superficially? The cartoons, you could look at it, were the straw that broke the camel’s back. When ministers etc. start talking about what’s happened there, why do they never talk about everything else that’s going on? And then this happens at the end of it.

I’m sure when you look into these people, they claim to be defending the honour of the Prophet… was their lifestyle commensurate with people who the love of the prophet, peace be on him? You’ll find it wasn’t. It’s not just the love of the Prophet which caused this action. It’s a lot more. This is always taken out of the discussion and they just focus on the cartoons and it’s just doing a disservice to the reality of how 1.4bn Muslims around the world feel.

Clegg:
I’m sorry, Omar, I’ve got to interrupt. I think if I understand you correctly, I cannot express to you how strongly I disagree with you. There can be no excuse, no reason, no explanation… They have killed cartoonists who have done nothing more than drawings which they so happen to find offensive.

Here’s the bottom line, Omar, at the end of the day in a free society people have to be free to offend each other. You cannot have freedom unless people are free to offend each other.
We have no right not to be offended.
That fundamental principle of being free to offend people - and not saying somehow that you have a right not be offended in a democratic, open society such as ours is exactly what was under threat by these murderous barbarians. To even suggest, Omar, that there is a rationale, an explanation, a motive that somehow absolves them or sheds greater light on such a horrific, cold hearted, cowardly act, I find outrageous.

Omar:
You’re absolutely right… But why is the rest of discussion not brought in? If they [the attackers] feel that - look - America, they were complicit in torture globally. It’s all of these things together, Iraq being invaded.

Clegg:

Omar for heaven’s sake don’t mix things [up]… Of course it is utterly wrong the way in which it now appears that the American intelligence agencies and others according to that report were doing things which are totally unacceptable in a law abiding society. But to somehow mix that in any way with the perverted things that must have been going on in the heads of these individuals? To go into a newspaper office and shoot cartoonists, I mean, that you’re even drawing the link I find so inexplicable. There is no link which can in anyway seek to explain such a random, such a cruel, such a cowardly act as what we saw in Paris yesterday.

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/how-france-sees-muslims-very-positively--xJWty9Wt9x

I keep seeing the adjective "cowardly" being used in reference to the Charlie Hebdo massacre. Can someone please explain to me how in any way what the Kouachi brothers did was cowardly?

I mean, what they did was an act of surpassing evil and ignorance and intolerance and brutality and heartlessness. But how - in any way - was it "cowardly?" It seems to me that these two knew for sure that a consequence of their act was that there was no way they would live out the week. In a different context, that would be called "courageous."

I'm not in any way trying to make these two out to be anything other than monsters, but those using "cowardly" to describe the Charlie Hebdo attack are engaging in cheap emotionalism.

 

[f1sherman]

We are talking about a subset of muslims in the millionths of a percent. There are nutjobs in every religion. This isn't a problem of islam

So that would be what... 20-200 muslim nutjobs
Jesus Christ... the math on these pages

From 70% all the way down to 1/10^6 %

 

[Abwx]

Thousands of terrorist attacks each year by Islamic extremists is like harassing women at an abortion clinic? But like you said, the problem is Islamic fundamentalists, not pizza loving fundamentalists or Buddhist fundamentalists.

But what if a meddle age level kingdom is brought down by a progressist party that suppress nobility and servdom while voting for news laws that put women on an equal foot with men, and getting said women to be scolarized, should we support an obscurantist counter revolution that is fighting thoses very laws.?.

It s what the US did when subsiding extremist fighters in Afghanistan, so dont come again with fundamentalism and other such propagandas since the US is the very country that funded thoses extremists, same for the french government, they voluntarly turned a blind eye when people got to fight the laic Syrian regime, now that this despicable strategy has backfired it s all "they want to control us", "they are against our freedom", that is, words from people whose nations supported anti freedom insurgencies when it suited their geostrategical pathetic interests.