10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

[zinfamous]

Here's what I don't get:

How can you even make a parody image of that Muhammet?

Any image has been outlawed all these centuries, so it's not as if there is any accepted reference for this dude.

So, when you draw him in a gimp suit receiving back-end pleasure from Jesus, do you have to draw "Muhammet" on the zippered mouth, so that the angry people will know that you are trying to piss them off?

:hmm:

 

[5150Joker]

What happened in past centuries in Europe in respect of jews will not occur again in the future, there might be a lot of hate in some sites but are thoses hatefull people and their follower that numerous.?.

Sure that they make a lot of noise but that sound as an aknowledgment of their powerlessness more than anything else, jews have nothing to fear in Europe as they hold a lot of power, be it financial, papers and cultural, but not so much for muslims that are mostly part of the blue collar world and are an easy target due to their individualism, i m french living in France and i can aknowledge that muslims are not very prone to create or participate in political organisations, actualy the only occasion where they act collectively is when they go to the mosques but outside this place they share few things, if anything, in daylife unless they are playing in some local soccer club...

I bet the Jews in pre-WWII thought the same, that they hold so much cultural and financial power that they are safe from retribution.

 

[Chaotic42]

But you don't apply that same logic to a newspaper doing that to Islamic extremists. Because you're anti-religion, and biased, and you support making fun of religion, but you don't support making fun of blacks.

That makes you a hypocrite.

Religion is a choice, skin color isn't.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Here's what I don't get:

How can you even make a parody image of that Muhammet?

Any image has been outlawed all these centuries, so it's not as if there is any accepted reference for this dude.

So, when you draw him in a gimp suit receiving back-end pleasure from Jesus, do you have to draw "Muhammet" on the zippered mouth, so that the angry people will know that you are trying to piss them off?

:hmm:

There's images of Muhammad everywhere in Iran, it's fine under Shia
Which Jesus would you choose for your picture? White Aryan Jesus or black African Jesus or olive colored Jesus with a big nose?

 

[5150Joker]

There's images of Muhammad everywhere in Iran, it's fine under Shia
Which Jesus would you choose for your picture? White Aryan Jesus or black African Jesus or olive colored Jesus with a big nose?

Personally I like Korean Jesus.

 

[bshole]

Religion is a choice, skin color isn't.

Well he may have kind of a point (if ever so weak).... before the Nazis started murdering Jews.... they were widely ridiculed in newspapers with extremely offensive caricatures. This was done to make the Jews less than human and deserving of the horror that was laid upon them. That being said, I believe the Nazi thing was more of a race thing than a religion thing.

I do know that there are many extremely vile cartoons circulating in the muslim world that attack Jews (much much more on race than religion). I haven't seen even moderate condemnation of these cartoons by westerners (and hardly any recognition that they even exist).

 

[Orignal Earl]

Personally I like Korean Jesus.

Family Guy Jesus seems cool

 

[Blue_Max]

I do know that there are many extremely vile cartoons circulating in the muslim world that attack Jews (much much more on race than religion). I haven't seen even moderate condemnation of these cartoons by westerners (and hardly any recognition that they even exist).

Yep. Especially the whole "pigs and monkeys" thing. Heck, right down to children's TV shows they ridicule Jews and kafirs.
Can't find the cartoon I'm thinking of, but this works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lByywaiSOg

This one really nails it. And we want to think that being nice to them will appease them?? Not possible. Not physically possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWwCKvvodBA

 

[xj0hnx]

I'm sorry to say that I absolutely support freedom of the press and the 1st amendment. But just because you have that freedom doesn't mean you should be irresponsible with it either. Just look. There was nothing positive about them releasing their Muhammad cartoons. What they were trying to prove is yes we can do it, and no you don't scare us. They knew very well they could be attacked. They were told they would be attacked. Now a few years later. They were attacked, and were slaughtered. I guess that is the price they pay for their irresponsible use of their freedoms. Yes that is arrogance. They were free to offend. They offended. That freedom cost them their lives. That's the gamble they took.

Yep. No sympathy.

I really hope you live in one of those backwards shithole nations, because attitudes like yours do not belong in freedom supporting countries. You are a piece of shit, and no, you do NOT support freedom of press, and expression, no sir you do not.

 

[xj0hnx]

Yep. Especially the whole "pigs and monkeys" thing. Heck, right down to children's TV shows they ridicule Jews and kafirs.
Can't find the cartoon I'm thinking of, but this works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lByywaiSOg

This one really nails it. And we want to think that being nice to them will appease them?? Not possible. Not physically possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWwCKvvodBA

However, if these were white rednecks talking about ******s and spics bshole, and the rest of his ilk would be up in arms ready to kill. They would have a palpable outrage at teaching children such things, but not so long as they are peace loving muslims.

 

[Blue_Max]

However, if these were white rednecks talking about ******s and spics bshole, and the rest of his ilk would be up in arms ready to kill. They would have a palpable outrage at teaching children such things, but not so long as they are peace loving muslims.

How does one become a peace-loving muslim when they're taught to hate from before they could even speak, and reinforced at every turn?

Obviously those TV shows aren't on standard North American cable, though Al Jazeera TV is available so they can still get their brain-programming.

 

[Victorian Gray]

How does one become a peace-loving muslim when they're taught to hate from before they could even speak, and reinforced at every turn?

Obviously those TV shows aren't on standard North American cable, though Al Jazeera TV is available so they can still get their brain-programming.

Ever bothered to actually watch Al Jazeera (or read it online)? It's modeled after the BBC and happens to be an excellent news source. Certainly better than most anything in the way of American broadcast news.

As for your first comment? There are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims in the world today. Roughly 99.9 % *don't* hate you.

And some of them live next door to you

 

[Abwx]

How does one become a peace-loving muslim when they're taught to hate from before they could even speak, and reinforced at every turn?

Obviously those TV shows aren't on standard North American cable, though Al Jazeera TV is available so they can still get their brain-programming.

Lol, yet another hater that justify his hate by assuming that the people he despise are hatefull...

You are just using those people as a mirror for your own mediocrity and hate.

As for learning to people to hate otrhers, what about when it s a religious leader that advice doing so..?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUuR3rGNjPg

 

[Abwx]

Ever bothered to actually watch Al Jazeera (or read it online)? It's modeled after the BBC and happens to be an excellent news source. Certainly better than most anything in the way of American broadcast news.

As for your first comment? There are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims in the world today. Roughly 99.9 % *don't* hate you.

And some of them live next door to you

Racists dont give a damn about children they despise because they are supposed to be muslims, do you know what the guy you re answering to is thinking of such pictures.?.
Well, he dream that he could shot thoses children dead, that s how those scummy racist thinks, they have no human sentiments, only self admiration because they know that they are actualy the worst part of humanity.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Racists dont give a damn about children they despise because they are supposed to be muslims, do you know what the guy you re answering to is thinking of such pictures.?.
Well, he dream that he could shot thoses children dead, that s how those scummy racist thinks, they have no human sentiments, only self admiration because they know that they are actualy the worst part of humanity.

Your hyperbole is pretty much the same quality as his hyperbole so your point is?

 

[Abwx]

Your hyperbole is pretty much the same quality as his hyperbole so your point is?

A racist will be racist even with children, you could as well have displayed picture of adult muslims Usans, racists are denying to these people the very right to live and this imply that even children are denied this right, of course they ll never aknowledge that they are denying rights to others, they just deshumanise them thanks to a stinky discourse and then it s easy, since they are not human they are not breaching any human rules.

Surely very simplistic as logic but racism need simple minds to be alive...

 

[Blue_Max]

...and your answer to the videos I posted?

Or what is actually *in* the quran?

You've been so busy being a bleeding heart that you probably haven't picked one up and read it - especially past the 1/3 mark. You're still sore about me calling out your feminism so you're having extra fun by trying to brand me a "racist" too. Unfortunately for your paper-thin argument, it's not a race. Its even far beyond just a religion.

Wouldn't you consider... no... wait, you wouldn't... I'll just make the statement that ANY group that thinks they're superior and should be the ones in charge are evil. Period. (And no, me calling you out on your feminist lies/propaganda doesn't mean I want to be your superior. Yeah, I can see you twisting that argument... and plenty of others, but I've wasted enough keystrokes on this.

 

[michal1980]

Ever bothered to actually watch Al Jazeera (or read it online)? It's modeled after the BBC and happens to be an excellent news source. Certainly better than most anything in the way of American broadcast news.

As for your first comment? There are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims in the world today. Roughly 99.9 % *don't* hate you.

And some of them live next door to you

That's just a flat out wrong statement. There are tens of millions of Muslims that hate you. Its liberal ignorance that blinds you to that reality.

 

[Abwx]

...and your answer to the videos I posted?

Or what is actually *in* the quran?

You've been so busy being a bleeding heart that you probably haven't picked one up and read it - especially past the 1/3 mark. You're still sore about me calling out your feminism so you're having extra fun by trying to brand me a "racist" too. Unfortunately for your paper-thin argument, it's not a race. Its even far beyond just a religion.

Wouldn't you consider... no... wait, you wouldn't... I'll just make the statement that ANY group that thinks they're superior and should be the ones in charge are evil. Period. (And no, me calling you out on your feminist lies/propaganda doesn't mean I want to be your superior. Yeah, I can see you twisting that argument... and plenty of others, but I've wasted enough keystrokes on this.

You re really a poor guy, MEMRI is a zionist propagandist site who is known to make up reports, so this report of a children was taken in a TV with a 60HZ sound running in the background..

So according to you palestinians children should love the very occupiers that stole their rights, are killing them and their parents like in Gaza last summer, you are really a fool to think that people that are daily terrorised by the despicable zionists should be grateful to their torturers, no matter the crime and murders of the israeli regime, killing 2000 is much less important than a few words that treat those pigs, yes the murderers are pigs, as they rightly deserve to be treated..?.

Here the life of palestinians children when all is going "well" :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb6NpeYyuvo

The israelis are the hatefull people, heck, they are so accustomed to kill palestinians that once they are somewhere else in the world they think that they are still the master race :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p03sSEyHiAw

An australian report :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqL048x4msM

Yes, israelis that are agressive are pigs, only pigs act such a way with children.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

That's just a flat out wrong statement. There are tens of millions of Muslims that hate you. Its liberal ignorance that blinds you to that reality.

Last I checked if the number was 20 million, it would be 0.0125% so roughly 99.9% would be correct. Guess you're just as stupid and ignorant when it comes to math as well.

 

[Orignal Earl]

...and your answer to the videos I posted?

Or what is actually *in* the quran?

You've been so busy being a bleeding heart that you probably haven't picked one up and read it - especially past the 1/3 mark. You're still sore about me calling out your feminism so you're having extra fun by trying to brand me a "racist" too. Unfortunately for your paper-thin argument, it's not a race. Its even far beyond just a religion.

Wouldn't you consider... no... wait, you wouldn't... I'll just make the statement that ANY group that thinks they're superior and should be the ones in charge are evil. Period. (And no, me calling you out on your feminist lies/propaganda doesn't mean I want to be your superior. Yeah, I can see you twisting that argument... and plenty of others, but I've wasted enough keystrokes on this.

I've never read the Qur'an, but all the anti-Muslim posters here have.
I just google as I go along learning about Islam.

Your interpretation left you thinking that Muslims think they are superior because of the Qur'an, yet I read this on the wiki page.

Jesus is mentioned more often in the Quran than Muhammad, while Mary is mentioned in the Quran more than the New Testament.[130] Muslims believe the common elements or resemblances between the Bible and other Jewish and Christian writings and Islamic dispensations is due to their common divine source,[citation needed] and that the original Christian or Jewish texts were authentic divine revelations given to prophets.

If the Quran is full of praise for Christians and Jews, how did you end up interpreting the opposite?

 

[Orignal Earl]

That's just a flat out wrong statement. There are tens of millions of Muslims that hate you. Its liberal ignorance that blinds you to that reality.

Those Muslims hate you because of American actions in the middle east though right?
It has nothing to do with them being Muslim does it?

 

[michal1980]

Last I checked if the number was 20 million, it would be 0.0125% so roughly 99.9% would be correct. Guess you're just as stupid and ignorant when it comes to math as well.

I already showed proof that the number is much higher. But continue to believe bullshit.

even this Muslim propaganda site acknowledges that at least 7% of Muslims are extremist.

https://encounteringislam.org/misconceptions#5

"Ninety-three percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism."

 

[michal1980]

Those Muslims hate you because of American actions in the middle east though right?
It has nothing to do with them being Muslim does it?

Yes, its our fault. /s

Liberals have so much self hate and guilt.

 

[soulcougher73]

That's just a flat out wrong statement. There are tens of millions of Muslims that hate you. Its liberal ignorance that blinds you to that reality.

Editted for math error on my part