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So he and their followers should have their citizenship yanked, THEN be deported. To where depends entirely on the range of the catapult.

You're willing to grant the state the power to arbitrarily take away birth citizenship? That's seriously frightening.

btw, to where do you deport a stateless person?
 

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if not, and i am wrong about that, please explain why are you talking about respect in this Murderous thread?

Because lack of respect is the source of all wars and conflicts, either one do not respect someone else physical integrity or simply necessity properties like homes or crop fields, results will be conflicts.

Since you re croatian i guess that you know what this means since your former federal country, Yugoslavia, was torned apart.

On a related note i noticed in your earlier post that Croatia is only 4 millions inhabitants, Yugoslavia wasnt overall much populated but i can tell you that its importance and the way it was respected in the world was in no way related to her size or demography, the country was much more prestigious than what her size would had implied, perhaps that you are all better now that you are in nationalistic countries, dont know, but seen from outside it was a waste, just because at some point the nationalities were no more respecting each other.

shit... you are equating Respect with Life.
im done with you

A condition for a decent life to be possible, otherwise just get back to the meddle age.
 
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thats whole another and long long story...
suffice to say it depends on from where you look at it, kinda like SR lol
 

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You're willing to grant the state the power to arbitrarily take away birth citizenship? That's seriously frightening.

btw, to where do you deport a stateless person?
As "seriously frightening" as having them and/or their followers actually kill the law-abiding people whose death they advocate?

As to where, I'm willing to allow them to choose the catapult's direction, as long as it's outbound.
 

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You *are* afraid and everything you post reinforces that fact. It seems a sad way to live one's life. <shrug>
Smart people know there are dangerous and hostile creatures in the world without necessarily being afraid of them. Only the weak-minded must pretend there are no threats in order to live without fear.
 

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yes... you are against killing people,

but instead of finishing this with a full stop you continue in the same breath (or in the same post rather) with talk about respect and not offending others la-lala

how did respect come into this?
well obviously thats your recipe for this explosive situation - just show more respect and it will be fine, or some version of this

if not, and i am wrong about that, please explain why are you talking about respect in this Murderous thread?

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I AM OFFENDED BY YOUR STANCE. No, I am not saying that for an effect.
My Father taught me that Tolerance, for people that have different ideals, or ideas, is what makes America the best Country in the World. That one can tolerate, other people.

So don't ask me to respect you. I am doing my best just to tolerate you.

-John
 

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These Terrorists don't understand that tolerating people, is far preferable to becoming lunatic, religious, hating, murderers.

When you tolerate people, we can all get along.

-John
 

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Smart people know there are dangerous and hostile creatures in the world without necessarily being afraid of them. Only the weak-minded must pretend there are no threats in order to live without fear.

My Father taught me that Tolerance, for people that have different ideals, or ideas, is what makes America the best Country in the World. That one can tolerate, other people.

So don't ask me to respect you. I am doing my best just to tolerate you.

-John


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Smart people know there are dangerous and hostile creatures in the world without necessarily being afraid of them. Only the weak-minded must pretend there are no threats in order to live without fear.

Islam (or, Muslims in general) is *not* a threat to him or anyone else. To say otherwise is simple ignorance/bigotry
 

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I read it written on the wall of a port-a-potty in Afghanistan. I looked around at all the muslims and thought, "yeah, seems believable."

No
You were saying the same stuff way before you started posting about joining the military
He wants to know where you first started to get your information from..you remember those sites like JihadWatch
 
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As "seriously frightening" as having them and/or their followers actually kill the law-abiding people whose death they advocate?

As to where, I'm willing to allow them to choose the catapult's direction, as long as it's outbound.

Yes, allowing the state the power to take away birth citizenship for thought crime *is* far more frightening.
 

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thats whole another and long long story...
suffice to say it depends on from where you look at it, kinda like SR lol

Ok, just one more question if that doesnt bother you, when you write this :

Fuck respect. Just don't kill me.
Is this related to what you had to endure during the 90s.?.

That could sound as the only hope one has left when living in an inferno, that is, to stay alive, all the rest being litterature...
 
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werepossum

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Islam (or, Muslims in general) is *not* a threat to him or anyone else. To say otherwise is simple ignorance/bigotry
But we aren't talking about "Muslims in general", we're talking about a specific sizable minority within Islam who ARE a threat to the West and indeed, to ALL non-Muslims. That we recognize these animals' existence without living in fear is no different from recognizing the existence of grizzly bears or cobras or rabid animals without living in fear. We take appropriate precautions if we believe we are likely to encounter any of them; we DON'T pretend that they don't exist.

Yes, allowing the state the power to take away birth citizenship for thought crime *is* far more frightening.
Why would advocating murder of infidels and the violent overthrow of non-Islamic governments be a thought crime whereas saying something against Islam is considered an actual crime?
 

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My Father taught me that Tolerance, for people that have different ideals, or ideas, is what makes America the best Country in the World. That one can tolerate, other people.

So don't ask me to respect you. I am doing my best just to tolerate you.

-John
Well said, sir. Respect is earned, not something to which one is automatically entitled. People are due tolerance and civility. If they want respect, they should say, do and worship things worthy of respect.
 

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Why would advocating murder of infidels and the violent overthrow of non-Islamic governments be a thought crime whereas saying something against Islam is considered an actual crime?
And the French jokes continue.....


I really sorry for the lives lost and the families that are suffering.
 

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we're talking about a specific sizable minority within Islam who ARE a threat to the West and indeed, to ALL non-Muslims.

A sizeable minority would mean what, one bombing each hour at least, you re just using irrelevant arguments, for me sizeable is as much as 20%, but let s admit that you were talking of 1%, that s for sure 40 000 people in France alone, do the math if you can, what would be the outcome if there was only this single percent as a "sizeable" part.??.

Your discourse is the same, it s just the wordings that is different, and of course treacherous given that you said "a sizeable part", i would say that the vast majority of your brain, or what is serving this purpose, is infected by hate.
 

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You're willing to grant the state the power to arbitrarily take away birth citizenship? That's seriously frightening.

btw, to where do you deport a stateless person?
People like Choudary are cancers on society. They are not a positive influence in any capacity. Making a person stateless is hard unless there is an island we can all send them to. Most countries instead just throw them in prison forever.
Yes, allowing the state the power to take away birth citizenship for thought crime *is* far more frightening.
Thought crime is thinking. Doing crime is doing. Go read about what this guy has been a part of. He is a threat to those in his range.
 

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And the French jokes continue.....


I really sorry for the lives lost and the families that are suffering.
Yep, although I've been damned impressed at the French people's reactions. Gutsy bunch.

A sizeable minority would mean what, one bombing each hour at least, you re just using irrelevant arguments, for me sizeable is as much as 20%, but let s admit that you were talking of 1%, that s for sure 40 000 people in France alone, do the math if you can, what would be the outcome if there was only this single percent as a "sizeable" part.??.

Your discourse is the same, it s just the wordings that is different, and of course treacherous given that you said "a sizeable part", i would say that the vast majority of your brain, or what is serving this purpose, is infected by hate.
Hmm. One group of people is killing those who disagree with them. Another group of people are pointing out that this makes them horrible human beings. And you're calling out the latter group as "infected by hate." Nice. I'm totally buying you as a disbeliever by the way.

The number of dangerous Muslim extremists in France is probably far greater than 40,000. Luckily the worst of them tend to travel to the Middle East where they can murder the infidels without quite so much risk, but plenty remain. Marseilles for example is now over 30% Muslim and is the most dangerous city in all of Europe. The non-Muslim native French are fleeing it, and Jews are fleeing France in general (for many, after having fled TO France from Muslim nations) due to the unrelenting violence.
 

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The number of dangerous Muslim extremists in France is probably far greater than 40,000. Luckily the worst of them tend to travel to the Middle East where they can murder the infidels without quite so much risk, but plenty remain. Marseilles for example is now over 30% Muslim and is the most dangerous city in all of Europe. The non-Muslim native French are fleeing it, and Jews are fleeing France in general (for many, after having fled TO France from Muslim nations) due to the unrelenting violence.

I can't find this 40,000 and probably far greater number anywhere?