Good point, if that were exactly true..
The GTX512 is not exactly a true generation. perhaps I should phrase my words more carefully.. rather call it a "release offering"..
But BTW, the GTX512 is more not the same G70.. it is a Revised G70 with some actual core tweaks..
No, the points are valid..
Looking at speed and availbility only.. pricing is a differnt issue..
7800GTX 512 > 1800XT = 7800 GTX > 1800 XL correct?
My point is if the 1800Xt can not be produced in quantitie then YES ATI IS two behind.. But your right, if they can produce in...
"X1800XT is avalable and in-stock, you certainly can count it. "
and this would be where? and for how long? From what iv seen and heard.. there are no available quantities other then flashes on the net..
The pot calling the kettle black.. Im the one here that is making points and...
Two generation, I'll clarify. im only counting what is available on the market. not available in "bigfoot sighting" quantities.. so yes.. just like the 850pe when it was "launched".. so to the trend is here in the 1800xt.. you cant count the 1800xt.. so must refer to xl.. which the TRUE Ati...
I agree, the market trend in pricing is disturbing isn't it? 700$ for a high end card is disturbing.. but again, it ties back to supply and demand.. as Consumers we NEED the supply and competition of Both ATI, NVidia .. would you agree?
Im sorry, don't need what kind of thread? Im not looking for an argument.. I suppose I may anger some fanboys granted.. Im an outspoken consumer..
Really, I would encourage people to call facts for what they are without the hype.. that is my point.. Sincerly, I don't believe hype without...
Seriously... wake up and smell the Molson Beer.
Im neither an ATI nor an Nvidia Fan boy.. Iv had both in the past and go for who has their @#$ together.. Look, for over a year now ATI has always been a step behind. Worse yet they have lost their credibility to even MAKE any claims. The...
Regardless of who is at fault this type of sales/marketing is utter BS, cheesy and unethical..
Did I mention when i placed my order through Gateway 2 1/2 months ago, every copule of weeks they would email me saying "we are sorry but the x800xt is delayed, we expect shipment to you next...
.. Will, surely Nvidia is no "saint" with some of the stuff they have pulled in the past with benchmarking.. however I think ATI now takes the cake in lack of ethics.. or at least in planning..
I have had the x800xt on "backorder" for 2 1/2 months through gateway computer.. in that time the...
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