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Jeeebus

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I for one welcome our new Zom xdgvzdfbgdfhgha xbvdfk bhdfhbjdfspkbgjdsfkbhh



BRAAAIIIIINNNNNSSSSSS
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: jjones

Agreed. A very stout brick or stone wall enclosing the perimeter, with turrets at the corners, and surrounded by a line of industrial grade wood chippers sunk to ground level. Of course you wouldn't want to fire up the chippers unless it was a full scale zombie assault. :D

Of course, completely passive defense woulnd't work.

I wonder if zombies instinctively avoid water or do they still blindly walk in. I figure they don't need air and such, so they could very easily bypass moats. Hence, a stout wall that could bear the incessent zombie scratching.

We'll need enough land to grow food too, since stored food can only sustain us for so long. We also have to consider if zombies ever do starve to death ala 28 weeks later, or are they good until natural bacteria/decay takes down their central nervous system. Prisons would be good areas to defend as well. Most have high walls with turrets, and are strongly built inside too. Also much more common then missile silos or castles.

They blindly walk in. They follow any sound there is. They can also survive underwater

This all depends on the type of zombie too. Are we talking live or undead? Some might float and others will not. Also, undead will decay much faster. In that regard, stocking the moat with crabs is a good idea. Live zombies still require air.

So I guess we need to figure out what this mutant virus is going to do. Kill/raise-the-dead, or simply alter the living brain?

 

ForumMaster

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Feb 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
For the new treatment, the researchers used a virus related to rabies called vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV).

Wasn't the cure in I Am Legend based off rabies too? Haha that's awesome! I guess it's time to hit up home depot for necessary materials.

measels actually.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'd be a little worried if they called it "the T-Virus".

Locked and loaded in my double-wide bunker surrounded by chicken wire.

How will chicken wire stop an army of zombies? you sir, are dead meat :)

A field of razor sharp chicken wire?

Wouldn't matter, as the first zombies get tangled up, the next zombies can merely walk over the other bodies. Like how some kinds of ants would sacrifice themselves so the rest of the colony would have a walkway over water.

What you need are higher walls that would keep them out, but wouldn't kill them. You don't want a ramp being made.

Time to pick up a castle and/or missile silo.

I don't think a merely passive defense would work.

obviously we need super strong and super thin wire that is attached to mechanical equipment that moves the wires forward and retreats at a high rate of speed, with open-grates below for the gloriously shredded zombie parts to fall into, with an incinerator and waste-removal system so it doesn't pile up.
this is fool proof!

or... those awesome lasers from the hallway scene in Resident Evil. Can we do that yet? Why not just 'nuke' them with high power microwave defenses that can be turned on at the flip of a switch? they'd boil and burst!

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Ewww, zombie juice everywhere

Remember, we can't get too messy for fear of becoming infected ourselves. I vote for a super deep moat....with sharks.

with lasers? :p

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I think crocs would be more dependable than sharks. they are easier to maintain in captivity, less discriminating in the things they eat, and better still, are mobile on land (but not at long distances)

The only problem though is that with endless zombie hordes, the crocs will eventually become more passive as their food source becomes a guarantee. Of course, one solution would be to add more crocs ;)
 

IEC

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Hmm, I guess I need to practice my sharpshooting skills and accelerate my get-in-tip-top-shape routine.

And stock up on 00 buckshot...
 

DangerAardvark

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Oct 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'd be a little worried if they called it "the T-Virus".

Locked and loaded in my double-wide bunker surrounded by chicken wire.

How will chicken wire stop an army of zombies? you sir, are dead meat :)

A field of razor sharp chicken wire?

Wouldn't matter, as the first zombies get tangled up, the next zombies can merely walk over the other bodies. Like how some kinds of ants would sacrifice themselves so the rest of the colony would have a walkway over water.

What you need are higher walls that would keep them out, but wouldn't kill them. You don't want a ramp being made.

Time to pick up a castle and/or missile silo.

I don't think a merely passive defense would work.

obviously we need super strong and super thin wire that is attached to mechanical equipment that moves the wires forward and retreats at a high rate of speed, with open-grates below for the gloriously shredded zombie parts to fall into, with an incinerator and waste-removal system so it doesn't pile up.
this is fool proof!

or... those awesome lasers from the hallway scene in Resident Evil. Can we do that yet? Why not just 'nuke' them with high power microwave defenses that can be turned on at the flip of a switch? they'd boil and burst!

+

Ewww, zombie juice everywhere

Remember, we can't get too messy for fear of becoming infected ourselves. I vote for a super deep moat....with sharks.

with lasers? :p

+

I think crocs would be more dependable than sharks. they are easier to maintain in captivity, less discriminating in the things they eat, and better still, are mobile on land (but not at long distances)

The only problem though is that with endless zombie hordes, the crocs will eventually become more passive as their food source becomes a guarantee. Of course, one solution would be to add more crocs ;)

As soon as they eat the first zombie they'll become zombie-crocs so they'll keep their aggression.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'd be a little worried if they called it "the T-Virus".

Locked and loaded in my double-wide bunker surrounded by chicken wire.

How will chicken wire stop an army of zombies? you sir, are dead meat :)

A field of razor sharp chicken wire?

Wouldn't matter, as the first zombies get tangled up, the next zombies can merely walk over the other bodies. Like how some kinds of ants would sacrifice themselves so the rest of the colony would have a walkway over water.

What you need are higher walls that would keep them out, but wouldn't kill them. You don't want a ramp being made.

Time to pick up a castle and/or missile silo.

I don't think a merely passive defense would work.

obviously we need super strong and super thin wire that is attached to mechanical equipment that moves the wires forward and retreats at a high rate of speed, with open-grates below for the gloriously shredded zombie parts to fall into, with an incinerator and waste-removal system so it doesn't pile up.
this is fool proof!

or... those awesome lasers from the hallway scene in Resident Evil. Can we do that yet? Why not just 'nuke' them with high power microwave defenses that can be turned on at the flip of a switch? they'd boil and burst!

+

Ewww, zombie juice everywhere

Remember, we can't get too messy for fear of becoming infected ourselves. I vote for a super deep moat....with sharks.

with lasers? :p

+

I think crocs would be more dependable than sharks. they are easier to maintain in captivity, less discriminating in the things they eat, and better still, are mobile on land (but not at long distances)

The only problem though is that with endless zombie hordes, the crocs will eventually become more passive as their food source becomes a guarantee. Of course, one solution would be to add more crocs ;)

As soon as they eat the first zombie they'll become zombie-crocs so they'll keep their aggression.

hmmm...perhaps this is a bad idea?

actually though, I would assume crocs to be immune to the mammalian-targeted virus that created the zombie hordes. amirite?
 

andylawcc

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: gururu2
ya you aint kidding. i worked with the actual VSV virus a few years ago and the thing about that virus is that it can get into any cell as it doesnt utilize any protein receptors. it basically breaches the cell membrane directly. i like how they play it off as simply causing colds in humans, because that virus absolutely rocks other mammals including its major target livestock. the virus causes infected cells to go lytic (explode) anywhere from 4-24 hours. the virus is effectively cleared in humans because it is very sensitive to our immune response induced by interferon (produces RNA chewing proteins which destroy the RNA genome of the virus).

It would be very difficult to stem the degree of normal cell damage before the interferon response kicked in. Maybe it will destroy just enough to make a zombie.

an educated reply gets no respect, while the chicken wire one gets eight
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: stinger25
perhaps I should start ordering some bulk ammo and bulk beef? :D

best get bulk salt too, and an icebox, because you might not have power for that refrigerator should the power station employees turn zombified. ;)

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OrByte

Diamond Member
Jul 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: gururu2
ya you aint kidding. i worked with the actual VSV virus a few years ago and the thing about that virus is that it can get into any cell as it doesnt utilize any protein receptors. it basically breaches the cell membrane directly. i like how they play it off as simply causing colds in humans, because that virus absolutely rocks other mammals including its major target livestock. the virus causes infected cells to go lytic (explode) anywhere from 4-24 hours. the virus is effectively cleared in humans because it is very sensitive to our immune response induced by interferon (produces RNA chewing proteins which destroy the RNA genome of the virus).

It would be very difficult to stem the degree of normal cell damage before the interferon response kicked in. Maybe it will destroy just enough to make a zombie.

an educated reply gets no respect, while the chicken wire one gets eight

Thank you and yes what gururu2 says is quite interesting and scary at the same time. I wonder why he was working with such a nasty virus? it'd be interesting to know.
 

Praetor

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'd be a little worried if they called it "the T-Virus".

Locked and loaded in my double-wide bunker surrounded by chicken wire.

How will chicken wire stop an army of zombies? you sir, are dead meat :)

A field of razor sharp chicken wire?

Wouldn't matter, as the first zombies get tangled up, the next zombies can merely walk over the other bodies. Like how some kinds of ants would sacrifice themselves so the rest of the colony would have a walkway over water.

What you need are higher walls that would keep them out, but wouldn't kill them. You don't want a ramp being made.

Time to pick up a castle and/or missile silo.

I don't think a merely passive defense would work.

obviously we need super strong and super thin wire that is attached to mechanical equipment that moves the wires forward and retreats at a high rate of speed, with open-grates below for the gloriously shredded zombie parts to fall into, with an incinerator and waste-removal system so it doesn't pile up.
this is fool proof!

or... those awesome lasers from the hallway scene in Resident Evil. Can we do that yet? Why not just 'nuke' them with high power microwave defenses that can be turned on at the flip of a switch? they'd boil and burst!

+

Ewww, zombie juice everywhere

Remember, we can't get too messy for fear of becoming infected ourselves. I vote for a super deep moat....with sharks.


Yeah, that's exactly what we need. Zombie sharks. :roll: :p
 

DanTMWTMP

Lifer
Oct 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'd be a little worried if they called it "the T-Virus".

Locked and loaded in my double-wide bunker surrounded by chicken wire.

How will chicken wire stop an army of zombies? you sir, are dead meat :)

A field of razor sharp chicken wire?

Wouldn't matter, as the first zombies get tangled up, the next zombies can merely walk over the other bodies. Like how some kinds of ants would sacrifice themselves so the rest of the colony would have a walkway over water.

What you need are higher walls that would keep them out, but wouldn't kill them. You don't want a ramp being made.

Time to pick up a castle and/or missile silo.

hahahaha lol what the hell. Damn you. I saw you mention ants, which reminded me of those awesome blind Driver Ants I saw on the Discovery channel recently. I went on a huge time-wasting spree on reading the wikipedia articles on ants and videos on driver ants.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: Praetor
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I'd be a little worried if they called it "the T-Virus".

Locked and loaded in my double-wide bunker surrounded by chicken wire.

How will chicken wire stop an army of zombies? you sir, are dead meat :)

A field of razor sharp chicken wire?

Wouldn't matter, as the first zombies get tangled up, the next zombies can merely walk over the other bodies. Like how some kinds of ants would sacrifice themselves so the rest of the colony would have a walkway over water.

What you need are higher walls that would keep them out, but wouldn't kill them. You don't want a ramp being made.

Time to pick up a castle and/or missile silo.

I don't think a merely passive defense would work.

obviously we need super strong and super thin wire that is attached to mechanical equipment that moves the wires forward and retreats at a high rate of speed, with open-grates below for the gloriously shredded zombie parts to fall into, with an incinerator and waste-removal system so it doesn't pile up.
this is fool proof!

or... those awesome lasers from the hallway scene in Resident Evil. Can we do that yet? Why not just 'nuke' them with high power microwave defenses that can be turned on at the flip of a switch? they'd boil and burst!

+

Ewww, zombie juice everywhere

Remember, we can't get too messy for fear of becoming infected ourselves. I vote for a super deep moat....with sharks.


Yeah, that's exactly what we need. Zombie sharks. :roll: :p

Can we pet those? I just think they'd be so lovable that I'd want to pet them.

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LordMorpheus

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Aug 14, 2002
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The virus infects animals other than humans, but it does not turn them, it just kills them. Only humans get back up and try to eat your brains.

(In the Max Brooks world, anyway.)