Zimmerman Riot poll. place your bets

[desura]

Objective people do say, "I don't know EXACTLY what happen," but they will also go on to say the evidence supports GZ claim of self defense. It's really as simple as that.

No, they say that it's a shitty case with no good witnesses, so unfortunately, all we have to rely on is Zimmerman's account of what happened.

 

[TerryMathews]

No, they say that it's a shitty case with no good witnesses, so unfortunately, all we have to rely on is Zimmerman's account of what happened.

And physical evidence

 

[Remobz]

Yeah, that's the lesson to take away. Similar to someone breaking into your home. If you shoot him and he dies, the lesson is, don't own a gun.

GZ's gun may have just saved his own life or prevented him from sustaining serious and permanent damage. So no, I don't think the lesson is, he shouldn't have had a gun. The lesson is, it doesn't pay to try to keep your neighborhood safe and look after your fellow neighbors. It should be every man for himself. Oh, and if a black man attacks you, just let him beat on you until he thinks you've had enough. Hopefully he won't kill you or cause permanent bodily damage. Because obviously if you defend yourself, you're a racist, even though the person attacking you is racist.

Any person with a RATIONAL head and some level of common sense would NEVER have let it get that far. There was no need to let it come to that stage in my opinion. But, he felt like a big shot with that gun in his belt and took chances he should not of.

Yes, TM was a punk and no Saint and Zimmerman had an ego trip with a gun. In the end, if he (GZ) was unarmed would it of gotten that far?

 

[JackBurton]

No, they say that it's a shitty case with no good witnesses, so unfortunately, all we have to rely on is Zimmerman's account of what happened.

Bullshit. Those are the biased voices that don't like the evidence presented because it doesn't fit in their little racist view of what happened.

 

[QueBert]

Any person with a RATIONAL head and some level of common sense would NEVER have let it get that far. There was no need to let it come to that stage in my opinion. But, he felt like a big shot with that gun in his belt and took chances he should not of.

Yes, TM was a punk and no Saint and Zimmerman had an ego trip with a gun. In the end, if he (GZ) was unarmed would it of gotten that far?

I know plenty of GZ's, they aren't shit without their gun. 100% he wouldn't have gotten out of the comfort of his truck if he didn't have one. He would have called the cops and let them handle shit. His gun made him brave.

 

[DrunkenSano]

No, they say that it's a shitty case with no good witnesses, so unfortunately, all we have to rely on is Zimmerman's account of what happened.

There is also witness testimony as well as forensic evidence that supports Zimmerman's story.

 

[JackBurton]

Any person with a RATIONAL head and some level of common sense would NEVER have let it get that far. There was no need to let it come to that stage in my opinion. But, he felt like a big shot with that gun in his belt and took chances he should not of.

Yes, TM was a punk and no Saint and Zimmerman had an ego trip with a gun. In the end, if he (GZ) was unarmed would it of gotten that far?

Please cut the bullshit. If GZ was acting like a tough guy, he would have shot TM when he confronted him, or at the very least drew his weapon, not waited until he was mounted, yelling for help and having the shit kicked out of him before firing.

COMMON SENSE would tell you he had gun on him because his neighborhood had a series of break-ins and it would be stupid to NOT have a CC permit and carrying with that crap going on. I mean seriously, is that fvcking hard to understand?

 

[mugs]

Any person with a RATIONAL head and some level of common sense would NEVER have let it get that far. There was no need to let it come to that stage in my opinion. But, he felt like a big shot with that gun in his belt and took chances he should not of.

Yes, TM was a punk and no Saint and Zimmerman had an ego trip with a gun. In the end, if he (GZ) was unarmed would it of gotten that far?

 

[Attic]

Any person with a RATIONAL head and some level of common sense would NEVER have let it get that far. There was no need to let it come to that stage in my opinion. But, he felt like a big shot with that gun in his belt and took chances he should not of.

Yes, TM was a punk and no Saint and Zimmerman had an ego trip with a gun. In the end, if he (GZ) was unarmed would it of gotten that far?

If you are willing to take on that level of speculation you are not honest unless you admit while it may have not gone that far (TM dying) that it may have gone far enough to kill GZ or cause brain damage, sever bodily harm, ect.

What we are near certain of is that TM attacked GZ and without the gun the assault would have certainly continued further. Where the assault leads to without the gun is not certain.

People die from physical assaults. Evidence showed GZ was more than likely physically assaulted, to a vicious degree, by TM.


It's somewhat absurd that folks will not believe Zimmerman (professionals involved do), but they are willing to endlessly speculate about what is unlikely to have happened that night. It's basically eyes closed, ears plugged, tongue out from the majority of TM apologists. That will be their and TM's legacy, not some righteous march for Justice, but rather an inept and child like tantrum in the face of logic and reason.

 

[Abe Froman]

What I'm most confused about is how ignorant the general population is to the function of the justice/legal system.

A "not guilty" verdict doesn't imply innocence. It only conveys that the prosecution failed to meet the burden of proof without a question of a doubt. How do people not understand that?

 

[QueBert]

People die from physical assaults. Evidence showed GZ was more than likely physically assaulted, to a vicious degree, by TM.

LULZ yeah, so vicious he didn't even need stitches or a trip to the hospital. Paramedics on the scene looked at him, wiped his head with a towel and let him go home. It could have gotten to a vicious point if it had continued, but it wasn't close to there when he shot. Not to mention Trayvon's hands showed no signs of having vicious beaten someone. Which is pretty remarkable because knuckles will bruise to hell if you're beating someone that badly.

 

[tynopik]

Any person with a RATIONAL head and some level of common sense would NEVER have let it get that far.

Exactly.

What RATIONAL person would jump someone simply for following them?

In the end, if he (GZ) was unarmed would it of gotten that far?

Without a gun George probably would have ended up in the hospital with severe injuries at best.

 

[highland145]

LULZ yeah, so vicious he didn't even need stitches or a trip to the hospital. Paramedics on the scene looked at him, wiped his head with a towel and let him go home. It could have gotten to a vicious point if it had continued, but it wasn't close to there when he shot. Not to mention Trayvon's hands showed no signs of having vicious beaten someone. Which is pretty remarkable because knuckles will bruise to hell if you're beating someone that badly.

That's all the law requires.

 

[Mermaidman]

New poll needed: Who is disappointed that no riots occurred?

 

[JackBurton]

I know plenty of GZ's, they aren't shit without their gun. 100% he wouldn't have gotten out of the comfort of his truck if he didn't have one. He would have called the cops and let them handle shit. His gun made him brave.

I'm confident in my abilities to fight someone hand to hand, but there is no guarantee the other person that confronts me is unarmed. ESPECIALLY when there have been a rash of break-ins in the area. GZ had as much right to walk in that neighborhood as TM. If he was armed, that was for his protection. What TM DIDN'T have the right to do was assault someone. I'd don't care what that person says to you, you do NOT have the right to attack them.

 

[Attic]

LULZ yeah, so vicious he didn't even need stitches or a trip to the hospital. Paramedics on the scene looked at him, wiped his head with a towel and let him go home. It could have gotten to a vicious point if it had continued, but it wasn't close to there when he shot. Not to mention Trayvon's hands showed no signs of having vicious beaten someone. Which is pretty remarkable because knuckles will bruise to hell if you're beating someone that badly.

Mostly lies and deception you are working with here, so we can agree nothing new but i'll address for clarity. TM hands did show the only wounds on his body other than the gunshot. So his hands did in fact show signs of viciously beating someone given we know GZ's wounds were in fact severe. Broken nose and lacerations from a blunt object are only severe to pussys I know I know. But take a blunt object and hit yourself in your head hard enough to cause a breakage of skin. It will take a hell of a force to do so. This was done to GZ's head at least twice and likely on more occasions where skin was not broken.

GZ (whether black/white/red/brown) does not need to wait for another punch to the face or having his head drivin into the sidewalk a specific number of times before he stops the assault. Anyone can ask themselves if the next blow could knock GZ out and the answer is clearly yes. The point of self defense is to not wait until a point where you can no longer defend yourself.

 

[TerryMathews]

LULZ yeah, so vicious he didn't even need stitches or a trip to the hospital. Paramedics on the scene looked at him, wiped his head with a towel and let him go home. It could have gotten to a vicious point if it had continued, but it wasn't close to there when he shot. Not to mention Trayvon's hands showed no signs of having vicious beaten someone. Which is pretty remarkable because knuckles will bruise to hell if you're beating someone that badly.

You left out the part where the police told the paramedics they would get GZ medical attention if his condition deteriorated.

He wasn't sent home for hours.

 

[sixone]

LULZ yeah, so vicious he didn't even need stitches or a trip to the hospital. Paramedics on the scene looked at him, wiped his head with a towel and let him go home. It could have gotten to a vicious point if it had continued, but it wasn't close to there when he shot. Not to mention Trayvon's hands showed no signs of having vicious beaten someone. Which is pretty remarkable because knuckles will bruise to hell if you're beating someone that badly.

Read up on the head injury that killed Natasha Richardson. She didn't need stitches or a trip the hospital, either - but she ended up dead.

It doesn't take much injury to the outside to do serious damage to the brain.

 

[QueBert]

You left out the part where the police told the paramedics they would get GZ medical attention if his condition deteriorated.

He wasn't sent home for hours.

They kept him on the scene for hours because HE FUCKING SHOT SOMEONE. It had nothing to do with his condition.

 

[Attic]

The other important thing not being noted about TM's injuries, injuries to the hands and a gunshot wound and nothing else, is that it corrborates GZ's account.

An account that states GZ was being beaten, severly, while not fighting back and while screaming for help, yet the assaualt continued for at least 45 seconds.

Does someone who continues to pummel a victim who is not fighting back, through screams for help, does that NOT sound vicious to anyone?

 

[LTC8K6]

LULZ yeah, so vicious he didn't even need stitches or a trip to the hospital. Paramedics on the scene looked at him, wiped his head with a towel and let him go home. It could have gotten to a vicious point if it had continued, but it wasn't close to there when he shot. Not to mention Trayvon's hands showed no signs of having vicious beaten someone. Which is pretty remarkable because knuckles will bruise to hell if you're beating someone that badly.

Whenever I had a bruise, it didn't show up for hours. I would sometimes just notice the bruise show up on my leg or arm, and not remember what I bumped into a while ago.

A black eye also didn't show up for a while.

Right after a fight, you don't see any bruises, iirc. They take a varying amount of time to show up.

I think TM would likely have shown bruises on his knuckles if he had not died immediately after injuring them.

 

[LTC8K6]

They kept him on the scene for hours because HE FUCKING SHOT SOMEONE. It had nothing to do with his condition.

He was not kept on the scene for hours.

Keep in mind that under FL law, GZ was actually immune from both criminal and civil prosecution, and SPD could not legally arrest him. They could only conduct an investigation.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ng=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.032.html

 

[Dr. Zaus]

 

[Attic]

no justice no peace!!!

 

[Dr. Zaus]

http://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/62572/1/720407664.pdf

Our results indicate that Stand Your Ground laws are associated with a significant increase in the number of homicides among whites, especially white males. According to our estimates, between 4.4 and 7.4 additional white males are killed each month as a result of these laws.