Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[adroc_thurston]

Is that 30% 1T perf increase when going from Zen5 9950X to the Zen6 12C/24T non-X3D SKU?

>30% and yeah.
Again, two shrinks are two shrinks.

AMD squeezed both N7 and N5 family for what they're worth and now they're fast-tracking something far faster.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Sorry, I meant the Zen6 24C/48T non-X3D SKU, but should not matter for 1T perf increase anyway.

 

[jpiniero]

>30% and yeah.
Again, two shrinks are two shrinks.

AMD squeezed both N7 and N5 family for what they're worth and now they're fast-tracking something far faster.

Zen 6% it is then.

 

[gdansk]

My guess was closer last time. And I say we are not getting more than 300-500MHz fmax in DT which will limit it to about 15-20% 1T.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Zen 6% it is then.

Zen4 was 8% so yeah.

And I say we are not getting more than 300-500MHz fmax in DT

There is no "DT fmax".
v/f is the same for all.
Server used to have a different one, but Z5-onwards, no more. Almost an exact DT match.

 

[Gideon]

My guess was closer last time. And I say we are not getting more than 300-500MHz fmax in DT which will limit it to about 15-20% 1T.

Sounds far more likely

Would be very happy to e wrong though!

 

[adroc_thurston]

Sounds far more likely

Qualcomm did 40% 1t like yesterday.

 

[511]

Qualcomm did 40% 1t like yesterday.

They did not lmao it was 30%

 

[adroc_thurston]

They did not lmao it was 30%

Their quoted is 39% 1t gain (even if 5% is SME pumping).
A lot of that is just freq squeezing from N3x 3-2 FF.
Going from N4p 2-2 so same rules as Zen6 apply.

 

[511]

Their quoted is 39% 1t gain (even if 5% is SME pumping).
A lot of that is just freq squeezing from N3x 3-2 FF.
Going from N4p 2-2 so same rules as Zen6 apply.

The quote was against HX 370

 

[adroc_thurston]

The quote was against HX 370

Hamoa was the same perf and the quote vs it was 39% not 41.

 

[511]

Hamoa was the same perf and the quote vs it was 39% not 41.

It's Geekbench cherry picking at best outside of GB there ain't anything showing it reached that

 

[511]

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[511]

Anyway I should stop posting QCOM in this thread we are going offtopic

 

[adroc_thurston]

It's Geekbench cherry picking at best outside of GB there ain't anything showing it reached that

It still counts.
Please stop the cope.
QCOM delivered 40% 1t.
Intel delivers 10% 1t. Too bad!

 

[adroc_thurston]

Why the hell do I even have to play Qualcomm Defence Force here?

 

[511]

Why the hell do I even have to play Qualcomm Defence Force here?

IDK lol

 

[itsmydamnation]

what happened to that pretty fly for a white guy, guy?

 

[coercitiv]

what happened to that pretty fly for a white guy, guy?

Farms engagement in the bird cemetery. Very spiritual.

 

[basix]

Two shrinks are two shrinks.

Compared to M5 it is only 1x shrink 😉

 

[Jan Olšan]

Why the hell do I even have to play Qualcomm Defence Force here?

Now you know how an AMD simp lifer feels when feeling compelled to defend Intel because people tend to overdo it a bit these days 🙂

 

[adroc_thurston]

Now you know how an AMD simp lifer feels when feeling compelled to defend Intel because people tend to overdo it a bit these days 🙂

Qcom is actually defensible if you ignore their product management being morons.
Intel uhhhh

 

[Gideon]

Farms engagement in the bird cemetery. Very spiritual.

What a lovely metaphor for Twitter!

Too bad it gave me a brand new earworm: 'I don't want to be buried in a bird cemetery...' ♫♪"

 

[alzawok]

oh fine

 

[adroc_thurston]

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Something doesn't feel right😨

you're posting random people off twitter.
might as well check out my account instead.