Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[DavidC1]

A Halo handheld at $1000 would be a true gaming device replacement. Halo-type handhelds have the potential to disrupt the entire gaming market from desktop PCs to dGPU laptops to consoles.

This is why it won't happen. They aren't going to make such a large die SoC that requires a whole new expensive board and sell it at $1000.

$1000 to you means the whole system has to be $800 or less. What is AMD getting out of that? A good LiPo battery, a well built high quality case, large 512GB or more storage, 32GB or more RAM, complex board to support 256-bit interface, a high resolution high refresh rate OLED(because it's a fad, not because it's good but still) touch display. All that for $800. Not happening anytime soon.

It can work if it has volume, but that's serious volume you are talking about. This is why Nvidia's stranglehold is extremely difficult to breach. They already have the volume. They already have supplies ready to go. OEMs have been making boards on it for years and years.

What you are saying is what few of us has been saying and known for years. Halo iGPUs are desired because of the mentality that iGPUs are cheap. You aren't getting that with the Halo version.

The solution to AMD is same as Intel. Don't give up. Keep trying. But they have similar attitude as Intel in many things. They give up too soon.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Notice, I said Strix Point, not Halo... Strix Point is far from the ideal platform for AI development...

Oh, thought you were still discussing Halo. In the case of Strix Point, it seems that AMD doesn't really care about their non-Halo iGPUs all that much.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

I think it was more that the hardware is still fine. It isn't butchering games.

Yeah, that's fair. But that's not what MS uses to make decisions about the future -- right now, they are losing the market. They might feel compelled to do something to change the situation.

That something might be to get out of the hardware business. Or it might be to launch a new console that's sufficiently above the PS5 Pro that they can get a serious wow factor when the consoles sit next to each other in a store.

 

[Josh128]

Somebody just posted what looks to be a Zen 6 ES GB run here in the Zen 6 thread and people arguing about handhelds like it never happened. Whats happening here?

 

[511]

Somebody just posted what looks to be a Zen 6 ES GB run here in the Zen 6 thread and people arguing about handhelds like it never happened. Whats happening here?

View attachment 127364

And it got deleted damm I missed it

 

[poke01]

Then let me show you some happy data?

"495X"

GeekBench 5
single 3186 more than 36645

(Only test data, does not represent the final result)

What’s the frequency

 

[511]

Qualcomm does a better job here too and they use expensive PMICs..

Those PMIC are bundled with their CPUs it's a deal like Thunderbolt/WI-FI with Intel CPUs are just cheap also Intel doesn't charge OEM for that TB logo as long as you put their chips.

 

[Z O X]

What’s the frequency

Kenneth

Anyway, thinking about new 3D stack design ... would it be possible to connect different chiplets with L3 cache slab?

 

[511]

Then let me show you some happy data?

"495X"

GeekBench 5
single 3186 more than 36645

(Only test data, does not represent the final result)

Waiting for this leak to go to Twitter 🤣🤣 and than come back here

 

[Josh128]

What’s the frequency

Theres no way he's posting that if this is real. Im skeptical that its actually real, but its quite specific and the fact that its using the now hard to search GB5 and the seemingly realistic nature of the scores gives it some credibility in my opinion.

If we assume that the +10% IPC over Zen 5 applies perfectly to GB5, the ST frequency would be around 6.1 GHz, so quite plausible.

**EDIT: Im waiting for it to show up on on WCCFTECH, lol.

 

[poke01]

Im skeptical that its actually real, but its quite specific and the fact that its using the now hard to search GB5 and the seeming realistic nature of the scores gives it some credibility in my opinion.

Here you go

Geekbench 5 CPU Search - Geekbench

If we assume that the +10% IPC over Zen 5 applies perfectly to GB5, the ST frequency would be around 6.1 GHz.

It’s probably around there and depending on N2 or N2P it’s 6.1-6.4GHz

 

[511]

Here you go

Geekbench 5 CPU Search - Geekbench

the problem is how are you going to search it lol

It’s probably around there and depending on N2 or N2P it’s 6.1-6.4GHz

 

[poke01]

the problem is how are you going to search it lol

You can would need to find out the ES sample model id

 

[511]

You can would need to find out the ES sample model id

I searched NBD.ltd didn't found it yet

 

[Josh128]

Here is a 14900KS with ST boost of 7.5GHz scoring 3159 ST. Heres the same one getting 35K MT. Both likely featuring exotic cooling and extreme power draw. In any case, the "495X" score posted, if done under ambient cooling, can be considered incredibly high by any standard, both ST and MT. Its exceedingly rare to find 9950X's that can crack 2.9K/ 30K in GB 5 MT, most are around 2.6K- 2.7K and 26K-27K.

 

[LightningZ71]

What’s the frequency

You have to ask Kenneth... (ZOX beat me to it!)

 

[Josh128]

Bruh...

 

[poke01]

Here is a 14900KS with ST boost of 7.5GHz scoring 3159 ST. Heres the same one getting 35K MT. Both likely featuring exotic cooling and extreme power draw. In any case, the "495X" score posted, if done under ambient cooling, can be considered incredibly high by any standard, both ST and MT. Its exceedingly rare to find 9950X's that can crack 2.9K/ 30K in GB 5 MT, most are around 2.6K- 2.7K and 26K-27K.

Nope 3159 is too low, needs to go higher like 3300-3400. This is probably where Zen6 will end up when all is accounted for in GB5

 

[511]

9950X

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Roughly 16% ST Improvements vs 9950X

A 285K with boost enabled Stock

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an Intel Core Ultra 9 285K processor.

browser.geekbench.com

 

[Josh128]

9950X

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Roughly 16% ST Improvements vs 9950X

A 285K with boost enabled Stock

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an Intel Core Ultra 9 285K processor.

browser.geekbench.com

If we average your two ST scores together, 3186 is +20.49% on them. If we average your two MT scores, the leaked score of 36.6K is 38% higher. The guy made clear this is not indicative of final perf, hopefully that means it goes up, not down. Even if it remains, thats a solid score. Question is, what is the core count? 16, 20, 24??

 

[511]

If we average your two ST scores together, 3186 is +20.49% on them. If we average your two MT scores, the leaked score of 36.6K is 38% higher. The guy made clear this is not indicative of final perf, hopefully that means it goes up, not down. Even if it remains, thats a solid score. Question is, what is the core count? 16, 20, 24??

bruh the CPUs are different lol

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Is everyone being post-ironic, or are you lot actually discussing a baitpost?

 

[511]

Is everyone being post-ironic, or are you lot actually discussing a baitpost?

Baitpost was 40% better than the last post

 

[BorisTheBlade82]

@Z O X & @LightningZ71
Great to at least see two people here thinking of R.E.M first as well when seeing this line - Kudos 😄

 

[yuri69]

Somebody just posted what looks to be a Zen 6 ES GB run here in the Zen 6 thread and people arguing about handhelds like it never happened. Whats happening here?

How reliable is that message, considering the rumored H2 2026 release?