Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[igor_kavinski]

(and battery goes inside your pocket 😉)

I guess fine for those lonely cold winter nights.

Summer, you may need a fan on the battery.

 

[511]

Well HandHeld name makes sense now after holding Strix Halo handheld at 55W you won't have a hand left to hold it i.e. "Hand Held".

 

[fastandfurious6]

weights?

 

[511]

weights?

So we can lift strix halo to make muscles as well damm nice feature no need to go to gym when playing handheld makes muscle 💪

 

[Det0x]

My next "victim" is ready 😇


Seems like CPU-Z is reading wrong stats tho, wonder if this SKU was ever planned to have dual X3D chiplets

 

[ToTTenTranz]

And another one:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949862327915831685

Strix Halo is coming to handhelds, people.

So people who wanted Strix Halo handheld with one CCD will be happy, GPD will have one SKU next to the one with Ryzen Max 395 that leaked previously, the only sacrifice the handhelds make is battery... they won't have one ..., you will need to use external one

https://videocardz.com/newz/gpd-win...5-395-7-inch-screen-and-external-80wh-battery

Battery is detachable . People have been asking for over a decade to get detachable batteries again in their consumer electronics for better upgradeability and serviceability, and avoid planned obsolescence.

 

[Abwx]

HXL has also some pics :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949872841244955124

 

[igor_kavinski]

HXL has also some pics :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949872841244955124

Oh baby, what a nice set of...coolers

 

[LightningZ71]

Look at all those connectors... I think that they realize that at the price point this will have to sell at, you better make it flexible enough to be a full mini PC.

 

[Abwx]

Oh baby, what a nice set of...coolers

+ 4 M2 slots while they are at it, that s some kind of compressed high perfs PC,
there s also two ethernet connectors, wich is definitly not typical for an handeld.

 

[poke01]

HXL has also some pics :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949872841244955124

I love dense boards

 

[ToTTenTranz]

+ 4 M2 slots while they are at it, that s some kind of compressed high perfs PC,
there s also two ethernet connectors, wich is definitly not typical for an handeld.

I think that's the motherboard they designed for their miniPC. I doubt they're releasing a handheld with RJ45 connectors, or 4x M.2.

It's still a pretty awesome board, though.

 

[Doug S]

+ 4 M2 slots while they are at it, that s some kind of compressed high perfs PC,
there s also two ethernet connectors, wich is definitly not typical for an handeld.

What's the point of putting ethernet connectors on a handheld? Is it gonna be some sort of souped up Fluke?

 

[Thibsie]

What's the point of putting ethernet connectors on a handheld? Is it gonna be some sort of souped up Fluke?

Call it tethering and it will look like a feature 😂

 

[Joe NYC]

Call it tethering and it will look like a feature 😂

Power over Ethernet

 

[coercitiv]

AMD made a mobile workstation CPU. OEMs shrugged and said "nice, but we want cheap mobile workstation CPUs, we're in the business of making money, not workstations". Console makers asked for a few to make handhelds out of them, then made mobile workstations just to be sure.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

What's the point of putting ethernet connectors on a handheld? Is it gonna be some sort of souped up Fluke?

Again: that's not the handheld's motherboard. It's from a miniPC they made. There's little reason to believe they'd use the exact same motherboard for the handheld.

 

[LightningZ71]

What's the point of putting ethernet connectors on a handheld? Is it gonna be some sort of souped up Fluke?

Ultra low latency network connections for those gamers that need that edge? Lol

 

[MS_AT]

Battery is detachable . People have been asking for over a decade to get detachable batteries again in their consumer electronics for better upgradeability and serviceability, and avoid planned obsolescence.

If we treat this abomination as having detachable battery then every device I can hook up with powerbank has one

Don't get me wrong, I would like user replaceable batteries to come back, but I don't see a point in mobile devices without internal batteries. From that point of view, with large enough power station, my desktop is a handheld. I can definitely glue a monitor to a case, plug it into power station and call it a day.

 

[511]

Can we do IP rating with user removale batteries while keeping device thin and light ?
It takes few screws to open a phone and replace batteries as far as android phones are concerned. The biggest problem is the phones with glass back for that you require special tools and stuff

 

[LightningZ71]

If we treat this abomination as having detachable battery then every device I can hook up with powerbank has one

Don't get me wrong, I would like user replaceable batteries to come back, but I don't see a point in mobile devices without internal batteries. From that point of view, with large enough power station, my desktop is a handheld. I can definitely glue a monitor to a case, plug it into power station and call it a day.

We're over here kvetching about 500-900 grams and you're over here wanting to curl 20+ lbs and wear a 30 lb backpack full of batteries to play CoD on the road... WE ARE NOT THE SAME!

LOL

 

[MS_AT]

Can we do IP rating with user removale batteries while keeping device thin and light ?
It takes few screws to open a phone and replace batteries as far as android phones are concerned. The biggest problem is the phones with glass back for that you require special tools and stuff

Problem is that even non glass phones are often glued instead of using screws. Everything so the phone is as thin as usb port itself, which for me is completely misplaced goal as neither it makes it easy to hold nor it makes it easy to cool. But that is a separate story. Still, would anyone buy a phone without integrated battery, having to use back attached power bank to act as one? Yes, the device is thinner in theory, but in practice is even bulkier.

We're over here kvetching about 500-900 grams and you're over here wanting to curl 20+ lbs and wear a 30 lb backpack full of batteries to play CoD on the road... WE ARE NOT THE SAME!

sarcasm carries poorly over internet it seems...

 

[poke01]

Problem is that even non glass phones are often glued instead of using screws. Everything so the phone is as thin as usb port itself, which for me is completely misplaced goal as neither it makes it easy to hold nor it makes it easy to cool. But that is a separate story. Still, would anyone buy a phone without integrated battery, having to use back attached power bank to act as one? Yes, the device is thinner in theory, but in practice is even bulkier.

Batteries are easy to replace at least on the latest Samsungs and iPhones after removing the glass back.. The EU mandated easy battery replacements with no glue at all.

 

[511]

Problem is that even non glass phones are often glued instead of using screws. Everything so the phone is as thin as usb port itself, which for me is completely misplaced goal as neither it makes it easy to hold nor it makes it easy to cool. But that is a separate story. Still, would anyone buy a phone without integrated battery, having to use back attached power bank to act as one? Yes, the device is thinner in theory, but in practice is even bulkier.

I don't like such thin phones as USB Ports as well as for the back attached it's nice for travels but that's about it. Pixels are simple to service as well

 

[ToTTenTranz]

If we treat this abomination as having detachable battery then every device I can hook up with powerbank has one

Don't get me wrong, I would like user replaceable batteries to come back, but I don't see a point in mobile devices without internal batteries. From that point of view, with large enough power station, my desktop is a handheld. I can definitely glue a monitor to a case, plug it into power station and call it a day.

Owners of this handheld who don't like the idea of detaching its battery can simply never do it, though.

It's how we used to do it for decades until the iphone normalized that form of planned obsolescence.