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Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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There's a GB5 leak as well (was this already posted?). The chip appears to jump from ~3.65 - 4.2 GHz. Based on the overall score, the PPC over HWP seems to be around 20 - 25%, depending on what the average frequency was.

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Benchmark results for an ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ProArt P16 H7606WI_H7606WI_00067221D with an AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 170 w/ Radeon 880M processor.
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adroc_thurston said:
You know, I'm gonna do one more funny and use the funky compare button between silent profile Strix1 and a rando silent profile HPT1 in G14 (which is like one of the better implementations CPU-wise). just for kicks.
Mind that ASUS keeps silent profile relatively consistent between AMD parts and it's like 25W sPPT with 15W sustain.

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ProArt P16 H7606WI_H7606WI_00067221D vs ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG Zephyrus G14 GA403UI_GA403UI - Geekbench

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Bigger than the slide mentioned 16% IPC uplift.
 
inquiss said:
If you bumped up the core counts and increased the memory channels in the consumer platform, everyone would have to pay a tax for all this wasted capacity. So you segment the platform and pay for what you need.

In the past, when cost scaling was happening in process nodes you could get that. You can't now. Those days are dead.
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I already paid for my current dual-channel x670e board with its 2 channels more than for my previous 4-channel x299 HEDT board.
 
Personal attacks are not permitted here. Attack the post not the poster. It's the first rule of fight club/CPU forum.
It's funny how adroc carried the meme of Overkill Zen 5 for months
Then AMD announces 16%
He says "I was wrong, MLID was right"
And somehow 4 days later you are already restarting the cycle and swallowing everything he pulls out.
 
Mahboi said:
It's funny how adroc carried the meme of Overkill Zen 5 for months
Then AMD announces 16%
He says "I was wrong, MLID was right"
And somehow 4 days later you are already restarting the cycle and swallowing everything he pulls out.
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not really , its called analysis of data points.

like it really is either AMD completely messed this core up ( i would argue more then bulldozer ( and i would be right ) ) or the extrapolations people are doing are largely correct.

it really comes down to , do your believe the single phrase single data point on a slide , or the foot note that contradicts that slide plus all the other data points that contradict that slide.
 
The only thing that sucks is that only the models that use the 890M are models that will come with a discrete GPU solution.

If they really managed to ~40% so 16 CU is a marvel for handhelds and great to 1080p playing on a pc.
C'mon no one remembers centurion and how they pushed bulldozer to the max?
 
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itsmydamnation said:
not really
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I would use an emote, but only this face can express my reaction to reading that:

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And YES, YES REALLY.
itsmydamnation said:
its called analysis of data points.
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"my data point is a geekbench leak that is disproving 5 other geekbench leaks which will be disproven within 48 hours by another 5 geekbench leaks"

REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED.
itsmydamnation said:
like it really is either AMD completely messed this core up ( i would argue more then bulldozer ( and i would be right ) ) or the extrapolations people are doing are largely correct.
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No.
itsmydamnation said:
it really comes down to , do your believe the single phrase single data point on a slide , or the foot note that contradicts that slide plus all the other data points that contradict that slide.
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No.
No it does not come down to that.
 
Mahboi said:
I would use an emote, but only this face can express my reaction to reading that:

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And YES, YES REALLY.

"my data point is a geekbench leak that is disproving 5 other geekbench leaks which will be disproven within 48 hours by another 5 geekbench leaks"

REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED.

No.

No.
No it does not come down to that.
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What ever you did in your post has broken the quote system.... rofl

so i would address your points but TLDR is your wrong , im right 🙂
 
Personal attacks are not permitted here. Attack the post not the poster. It's the first rule of fight club/CPU forum. No callouts either.
adroc_thurston said:
You can pre-order the device at BestBuy and bench it for me.
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I'm actually going to perform a simple art: not care about your very, very devalued words and wait for reviews. You've spent MONTHS yapping and acting like the entire world was a bunch of idiots that exist solely for you to laugh at their faces because only you knew the truth of things.
Only to somehow end up with MLID, MLID being more accurate than you.
I don't know or care how you ended up with this result, but months of pure arrogance only to make MLID look like he has less ego and more leaker credibility than you is a sort of Gold Cup at a certain Olympics.
And I'm being tame because of forum rules.

Why don't you just be quiet for a few weeks because Lord knows your every word is just sinking you deeper in ridicule right now.
For others "wait for reviews" is wisdom, for you, it's about self-respect. If I'd been half as arrogant and half as wrong as you, I'd make a public apology over it and make myself scarce.
 
Mahboi said:
I'm actually going to perform a simple art: not care about your very, very devalued words and wait for reviews. You've spent MONTHS yapping and acting like the entire world was a bunch of idiots that exist solely for you to laugh at their faces because only you knew the truth of things.
Only to somehow end up with MLID, MLID being more accurate than you.
I don't know or care how you ended up with this result, but months of pure arrogance only to make MLID look like he has less ego and more leaker credibility than you is a sort of Gold Cup at a certain Olympics.
And I'm being tame because of forum rules.

Why don't you just be quiet for a few weeks because Lord knows your every word is just sinking you deeper in ridicule right now.
For others "wait for reviews" is wisdom, for you, it's about self-respect. If I'd been half as arrogant and half as wrong as you, I'd make a public apology over it and make myself scarce.
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if you dont like Speculation in the "Zen 5 Speculation" thread , then why dont you go away ?

like the forum was just fine the way it is. People come , People go but we always have fun ****posting and taking punts. I dont know why your getting so upset about people guessing and arguing amongst ourselves about who is right and wrong. Adroc hasnt posted here long but not like it makes any real difference , the same stuff happens regardless........
 
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