Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[soresu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770628592894120217

Granite Ridge Sample out!

Nothing comes up when I click on the link.

 

[Joe NYC]

Nothing comes up when I click on the link.

Account is private.

 

[moinmoin]

Client using mobile designs may very much mean mobile packages.

No, it just means that what's today's "APUs" in DIY will cover all of the AM5 product range eventually. No change in packages needed.

What you are talking about is essentially different markets.

 

[carrotmania]

Not so long ago, ARL was to be 30-40% in ST over RPL, which may be roughly on par in ST with Zen 4.
Zen 5 was to be 10-15% faster over Zen 4.
In other words, ARL 20-25% faster than Zen 5, beating Zen 5 X3D also.

Fast forward and now, ARL ~= Zen 5

I take it you have adroc on ignore, cos what you just wrote is the EXACT opposite of what he's been preaching for months now...

 

[uzzi38]

I take it you have adroc on ignore, cos what you just wrote is the EXACT opposite of what he's been preaching for months now...

No, he's just explaining what MLID's been saying across various videos.

 

[Tarkin77]

Account is private.

 

[igor_kavinski]

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Umm..not helpful at all. No photo of said sample. No screenshot showing it running something. Disappointing.

 

[deasd]

Xino is reliable. He leaked Zen4 front-end spec way before release. This time he said "sample out" which means it's very likely refering QS(Qualified sample), and very closed to retail.

ES was already out for quite a while, which is not worth mentioning or being a private thing.

 

[Timmah!]

Xino is reliable. He leaked Zen4 front-end spec way before release. This time he said "sample out" which means it's very likely refering QS(Qualified sample), and very closed to retail.

ES was already out for quite a while, which is not worth mentioning or being a private thing.

sooo....april release after all? or very close to retail means september?

 

[leoneazzurro]

sooo....april release after all? or very close to retail means september?

It may also mean June as that is usually another busy month regarding product launches.

 

[igor_kavinski]

What does AMD do so well that allows them to keep leaks from happening? Not even one disgruntled low paid employee ratting them out???? Does their NDA talk about a life sentence or something???

 

[gdansk]

What does AMD do so well that allows them to keep leaks from happening? Not even one disgruntled low paid employee ratting them out???? Does their NDA talk about a life sentence or something???

Maybe they learned a thing or two from Zen 4's leaky ship.

 

[igor_kavinski]

All we want is one benchmark per week a few months before launch. Not too much to ask for, surely?

 

[adroc_thurston]

sooo....april release after all?

No. Computex.

 

[igor_kavinski]

No. Computex.

I hope I can hold on till then. Just saw a great local deal on an MSI B650 mobo available for the same price as A620M mobos from other vendors.

 

[yuri69]

What does AMD do so well that allows them to keep leaks from happening? Not even one disgruntled low paid employee ratting them out???? Does their NDA talk about a life sentence or something???

Just wait till mobo partners get their hands on the samples.

 

[FlameTail]

Will Strix Point be announced alongside Zen 5 Desktop at Combustex 2024?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Combustex 2024?

Alerting all authorities. Flametail having weird ideas. Be on the lookout for any flametails!

 

[exquisitechar]

What does AMD do so well that allows them to keep leaks from happening? Not even one disgruntled low paid employee ratting them out???? Does their NDA talk about a life sentence or something???

It's a repeat of Zen 3, performance leaks were really late back then too.

 

[igor_kavinski]

It's a repeat of Zen 3, performance leaks were really late back then too.

Ah so everytime AMD has a winner on their hands, they clamp down on the security really tight.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Will Strix Point be announced alongside Zen 5 Desktop at Combustex 2024?

No, it's that MS AI PC(tm) event iirc.

What does AMD do so well that allows them to keep leaks from happening?

Firmware locks.
Don't need more speed than refclk for board validation, after all!

If you thought RDNA3 boards were locked down toys, wait till you see AMD RVPs.
Firmware signing keys for days!

 

[deasd]

sooo....april release after all? or very close to retail means september?

I don't know but just like old times, release often happened several months after QS out.

Will Strix Point be announced alongside Zen 5 Desktop at Combustex 2024?

Strix Point would be late this time:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770776594358915080

 

[adroc_thurston]

Strix Point would be late this time:

No.
Select devices Q3, more Q4, rest of the stack (-halo and KRK1) are CES'25.

 

[igor_kavinski]

AMD's Zen 2 FPU for PlayStation 5 is 35% smaller than a Ryzen 7 3800X but sacrifices nothing in terms of gaming performance

Just chop off what you don't need.

www.tomshardware.com

Fascinating. No wonder they went with Zen4c and 5c rather than creating a separate E-core design from the ground up. Their engineers have exceptional thinking skills.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

lol @ Tom's editor's reading comprehension, it’s not the CPU core that’s 35% smaller, it’s the FPU: " A 35% reduction in FPU area by itself is impressive. But the size of a quad core cluster only goes down by 5.8%.”