Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Schmide]

Andrei did.
RIP my man.

He's not dead is he ?

 

[gdansk]

He's not dead is he ?

He works for Qualcomm now. So not likely to release Zen 5 joules per workload measurements anytime soon.
But possibly the reason you see some Qualcomm folk post here on occasion.

 

[adroc_thurston]

He's not dead is he ?

Qualcomm poached him.
Standard good_tech_journo to IHV employee pipeline which unfortunately leaves anglo tech media void of anything with effort.

 

[Saylick]

Standard good_tech_journo to IHV employee pipeline which unfortunately leaves anglo tech media void of anything with effort.

Hey, that's not always true. Last time I checked, Usman Pirzada of WTFTech infamy fame got hired by AMD to work in their marketing department. Big L for AMD imo.

And hey, whadya know. Even Andrei piled in to crap over Usman, too.

 

[Schmide]

yeah don't do that

 

[adroc_thurston]

Hey, that's not always true. Last time I checked, Usman Pirzada of WTFTech infamy fame got hired by AMD to work in their marketing department. Big L for AMD imo.

And hey, whadya know. Even Andrei piled in to crap over Usman, too.

Oh god.
Wtf.
He was the least offensive wccf poaster but still.

 

[Saylick]

Oh god.
Wtf.
He was the least offensive wccf poaster but still.

Idk about least offensive. Just different. Most authors there are shameless and don't care that they are spitting out low quality journalism (if you can even call it that). I think Usman genuinely tried to be a respected journalist, but I suspect his non-technical background combined with his inability to see his own technical shortcomings opened himself up for taking a lot of heat from the community (see Andrei's scathing comment above), which I have to imagine he got tired of. His "exclusives" were just full of conjecture that he probably thought was "good analysis" but anyone with half a brain could poke holes in it. See his "exclusive" article for example where he argues there's NO WAY the PS5 could reliably hit its boost clock; his arguments weren't just baseless, but it was debunked immediately when the PS5 and RDNA 2 launched.

 

[FlameTail]

He works for Qualcomm now. So not likely to release Zen 5 joules per workload measurements anytime soon.
But possibly the reason you see some Qualcomm folk post here on occasion.

He works for the Nuvia(Oryon) CPU team. That's an epic place to work in.

 

[JustViewing]

(Think all business software written in Java and that take enough memory to not fit the hot set in cache.)

These software (both written in Java & .Net) scales well with HT, can get over 50% performance from HT.

 

[BorisTheBlade82]

Recording joules per workload would solve so many of these issues, but alas still nobody bothers doing benchmarks like that.

And I supplied a solution for everyone to use. Sadly, after the first year, where I was able to gather around 200 samples, no one bothers anymore. So no samples for Phoenix or MTL sadly.

 

[moinmoin]

And I supplied a solution for everyone to use. Sadly, after the first year, where I was able to gather around 200 samples, no one bothers anymore. So no samples for Phoenix or MTL sadly.

We need to push it more indeed.

 

[Det0x]

Hope we get the APU 8000 series memory controller or better when Zen5 finally releases
Its doing pretty decent when comboed with a good memory OC motherboard

• Dual channel 9800MT/s
• 2550mhz FCLK (will be hard to match this with chiplet based architecture -> regular Zen4 caps out at 2200mhz FCLK)
• Delidded and paste is replaced with LM

I'm so close to breaking the magical 18k memscore in GB3 with this setup

 

[soresu]

Do you have GeekBench or Cinebench ST scores?

On Zen6?

That's way too far from usable silicon at this point in time.

 

[Det0x]

Do you have GeekBench or Cinebench ST scores?

Numbers to beat..This is my 7950X3D

 

[blackangus]

The wait here is killing me.

 

[Timorous]

The wait here is killing me.

You could always start some fake rumours to see if RGT, MLID or WCCFtech pick them up.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

You could always start some fake rumours to see if RGT, MLID or WCCFtech pick them up.

Due to how thirsty the new Zen 5 core is and how overbuilt they forced AM5 to be, they are introducing a new TDP tier of 220W TDP/300W PPT. It should help them keep an edge over Intel in every metric, including power consumption.

 

[blackangus]

You could always start some fake rumours to see if RGT, MLID or WCCFtech pick them up.

• Zen 6 will be all 65w or under.
• Zen 5 will be in my machine this year.
• Adroc_Thurston is not MILD or Tech Jesus but is Bondrewd
• AMD will overtake Nvidia's stock price.

Some rumors are more credible than others, I only have proof of two =)

 

[Markfw]

• Zen 6 will be all 65w or under.
• Zen 5 will be in my machine this year.
• Adroc_Thurston is not MILD or Tech Jesus but is Bondrewd
• AMD will overtake Nvidia's stock price.

Some rumors are more credible than others, I only have proof of two =)

For the record.... If Zen 5 benchmarks are any where close to the 40% (or even 20%) I hope to be the first here to have one. I was close to the 1st for Zen 4, and right now I have 5 Genoa boxes and 8 7950x boxes (all Zen 4 based)

Disclaimer: I have some Rome and Zen 3 boxes (5950x) still, but none are currently powered up for my DC work.

 

[APU_Fusion]

For the record.... If Zen 5 benchmarks are any where close to the 40% (or even 20%) I hope to be the first here to have one. I was close to the 1st for Zen 4, and right now I have 5 Genoa boxes and 8 7950x boxes (all Zen 4 based)

Disclaimer: I have some Rome and Zen 3 boxes (5950x) still, but none are currently powered up for my DC work.

Could I …. Could I …. Borrow a few …. Strictly to determine its quality control of course.

 

[Markfw]

Could I …. Could I …. Borrow a few …. Strictly to determine its quality control of course.

If you were in the NW US

 

[APU_Fusion]

If you were in the NW US

I live in Oregon my man. Oregon mmmmm m genoa

 

[Joe NYC]

It's not a different name, just the name in Chinese writing. Fun fact: The Chinese name for AMD translates into "Super Micro" which considering there's a company actually called "Super Micro" isn't helpful while machine translating.

I noticed that when it is 2 words: Super Micro, it may refer to AMD, and if it is one word, SuperMicro, it refers to the server OEM under that name.

 

[FlameTail]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1767222954465919460

Zen 5 dispatch width increased from 6 wide to 8 wide...

 

[adroc_thurston]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1767222954465919460

Zen 5 dispatch width increased from 6 wide to 8 wide...

Not news.
The interesting stuff is once again in the front-end.